2018-19 Russian Ladies' figure skating
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Is Alina Honored Master of Sports now?
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Yes.
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What's interesting about the age change talk is how many Russian figures are siding with raising the senior age despite it holding back the strong Russian juniors. Is TAT waging war against Tutberidze? #KONSPIRACY! 
Tarasova, Irina Rodnina, Zhulin, many others.
Here's TAT's comment about Orser as well:
https://www.sports.ru/figure-skating/1063128270.html
"Orser is a terrific person. He is currently the best coach in FS. He trains wonderful people who surpass time for many years ahead."
I'm pretty sure they are attacking Tutberidze. The Rus. fed. could be involved?
Tarasova, Irina Rodnina, Zhulin, many others.
Here's TAT's comment about Orser as well:
https://www.sports.ru/figure-skating/1063128270.html
"Orser is a terrific person. He is currently the best coach in FS. He trains wonderful people who surpass time for many years ahead."
I'm pretty sure they are attacking Tutberidze. The Rus. fed. could be involved?
Yep =)
I'm happy we finally agree on something
Yeah you think your cool,making fun of someone's misfortune. Keep it up
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What's interesting about the age change talk is how many Russian figures are siding with raising the senior age despite it holding back the strong Russian juniors. Is TAT waging war against Tutberidze? #KONSPIRACY!
Tarasova, Irina Rodnina, Zhulin, many others.
Here's TAT's comment about Orser as well:
https://www.sports.ru/figure-skating/1063128270.html
"Orser is a terrific person. He is currently the best coach in FS. He trains wonderful people who surpass time for many years ahead."
I'm pretty sure they are attacking Tutberidze. The Rus. fed. could be involved?
I'm also surprised by this. I mean, it's not like only Eteri's girls have been most successful at a younger age in Russia. Radionova, Pogo, Tukta. Heck, Sotnikova... of course, it seems like Eteri's dialing it up to the extremes with her juniors, so it might well be that other clubs feel threatened by the perspective of her taking all the glory in the upcoming cycle.
TAT is a well known Hanyu fan. If Yuzuru was trained by talking horse she would also say he is the best coach in galaxy
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What's interesting about the age change talk is how many Russian figures are siding with raising the senior age despite it holding back the strong Russian juniors. Is TAT waging war against Tutberidze? #KONSPIRACY!
Tarasova, Irina Rodnina, Zhulin, many others.
Here's TAT's comment about Orser as well:
https://www.sports.ru/figure-skating/1063128270.html
"Orser is a terrific person. He is currently the best coach in FS. He trains wonderful people who surpass time for many years ahead."
I'm pretty sure they are attacking Tutberidze. The Rus. fed. could be involved?
Where have the mentioned people said they're for the increase in minimum senior age, if you don't mind me asking? Was it on TV?
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- What's wrong with Tat calling the current coach who has owned 3 consecutive OGM and 4 WC gold of the last quad as the best coach in the world?What's interesting about the age change talk is how many Russian figures are siding with raising the senior age despite it holding back the strong Russian juniors. Is TAT waging war against Tutberidze? #KONSPIRACY!
Tarasova, Irina Rodnina, Zhulin, many others.
Here's TAT's comment about Orser as well:
https://www.sports.ru/figure-skating/1063128270.html
"Orser is a terrific person. He is currently the best coach in FS. He trains wonderful people who surpass time for many years ahead."
I'm pretty sure they are attacking Tutberidze. The Rus. fed. could be involved?
- Tat has retired. She coaches no one now. She also has nothing to lose or gain. She has some preference of course, but speaking up from her preference is a conspiracy?
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Many big names / clubs aren't happy about Eteri's success at all. CSKA should be at the top of that group, which obviously would then include TAT as well. This is reflected on certain news sources as well. Russia fed as a whole is quite unhappy with Eteri's success in general.
Anyway, unlike some others, I really don't think that this will harm Eteri very much. I believe that it'll actually help her in the long run. I don't think her success is due to some gimmick, she just is the most skilled coach in Russia and her having to change some methods and priorities wouldn't change that.
Anyway, unlike some others, I really don't think that this will harm Eteri very much. I believe that it'll actually help her in the long run. I don't think her success is due to some gimmick, she just is the most skilled coach in Russia and her having to change some methods and priorities wouldn't change that.
If you want to believe they're just her personal preferences...
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Whether you agree with TAT or not, I don't see why she shouldn't express her opinion. She likes Orser? Good. Orser is the best coach for men at the moment. Eteri is the best coach for ladies - Evgenia training at TCC will be the ultimate test for Orser, I guess. TAT can say whatever she wants, in the end it will be the results that will speak :agree2:
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How is that? I mean, I get why other coaches and clubs aren't happy, but shouldn't the fed be glad that she brings medals?
Sorry if it's a silly question, but I'm new and trying to understand the "politics"...
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RuFed will consider financing Medvedeva when she provides a work plan
https://www.sports.ru/figure-skating/1063187142.html
https://www.sports.ru/figure-skating/1063187142.html
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I wonder where all those commentators like "Medvedeva earned enough to afford trainings in Canada easily, so she doesn't need fed support"?
Not enough it seems.
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I wonder where all those commentators like "Medvedeva earned enough to afford trainings in Canada easily, so she doesn't need fed support"?
Not enough it seems.
How about "she has earned enough to convince RuFed to pay BOrser for her training" comments? )
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Well, if the RuFed decide otherwise she won't have so much choice, i hope she has a backup plan...
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I think that her sponsors Nike and Pantene would cover most of the expenses (but still, not the ideal case)
Here's an interesting look.
https://rsport.ria.ru/blog_rian/20180514/1136883995.html?utm_referrer=https://zen.yandex.com
https://rsport.ria.ru/blog_rian/20180514/1136883995.html?utm_referrer=https://zen.yandex.com
Actually, fed is made of people, and there are people influential with fed or who have connections with fed. I mean, folks like TAT, Mishin, Buyanova have more weight with fed than Eteri.
Outside the medals, there is a $$$ issue. Elite skaters get coached for free in Russia, and coaches are paid by government. But also, elite skaters give their coaches are fraction of their prize money. So for example, when an Eteri student medals, for fed, it is just a medal, but for Eteri, it is medal + $$$.
Now, see where we are going, the spots for most international events are limited. The podium places too. So the fact that Eteri's students are successful means not only that Eteri makes more money, but also that other coaches make less money. Look at GPF, for example - if Alina was not there, Sotskova would have won gold. Look at Euro spots - if it was not for Eteri students, someone like Radionova or Tuktamysheva could have made it, which means prize money for the coach.
Now see that those coaches are connected to fed and much more influential than Eteri is. So i suppose this is the reason why fed is very unlikely give Eteri girls 3 spots for Worlds / Euros.
Fed is made of people, and they pursue their own interests and agendas, not just an abstract medal count. I mean, stuff like sending Konstantinova to Worlds is a good example how shady fed interests eclipse the interest in more medals.
And i totally see how rusfed may want Eteri to stay as a "junior" coach, so the influential folks can snatch her students and have them winning medals for them, not for Eteri.
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