2018-19 Russian Ladies' figure skating
- Thread starter Spirals for Miles
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Anna S. Sp was made after she returned from DOI in Japan. in mid-July.
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You have to be 14 by the time Nationals are held. So Alena was already 14 but Sasha and Nastia were 13
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I do not get why out of everybody complaining about the music cuts, you had to quote me then. And by the way i was one of the people who stood up for Alina when most of the thread was dragging Alina's POTO program so maybe you shouldn't take your frustration of those people on me. And i'm not one of those "eteri-is-evil-let's-burn-her-and-save-those-kids-from-her" people at all if you have seen just a few of my comments on this thread before. I didn't even give my opinion of the actual program itself because the fancam wasn't clear and i didn't really see it well enough, it is simply the music cuts being quite messy + voiceovers being unnecessary i was complaining about
Because you complained about the music cuts?
From technical perspective, I wanted to quote more complaints about music cuts, but there was some problem so I finished with just two and then you reacted so this discussion started Also that " i'm kinda pissed" is why I wrote "Feel free to have your day ruined", for me it was like 1=1.
To the rest - yes, you didn't complain about Alina, but your comment about Alyona appeared on nearly same level as those complaints on Alina to me due to those lines I quoted (not because somebody doesn't like it, but because of that "different than I wantned" thing, that really doesn't sound good for me, see above why). I also later wrote about reactions to both programs, but remember originally I just reacted with one line meant just as small tease (not from the frustration as you imply, I just like to tease people who make similar comments, in that you were not the only one
).So this is my position in "why just you". Was I correct? Maybe not but I was judging just by what was written.
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Skaters like Ito and Trusova demonstrate such athleticism as can match anything exalted in the typical realm of "artistry."
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You have to be born in 2003 or earlier to participate in RusNats last year.
Apparently the RusFed goes with year of birth with eligibility of domestic competitions, instead of 1st July.
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This whole problem of choosing between Sinitsyna and Tarakanova could've been avoided by just giving Gubanova the dang Rostelecom spot and putting Sinitsyna into Linz instead. Seems the Fed is still stupid.
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No, I don't think so. Programs-wise, we've only seen 1 and it's not really that bad. Plus her elements are designed to win -- they showcase her strong spins and skating skills, and putting 3Lz-3Lo and 2A in the first part is the best idea with all these awful new rule changes. And her 3F really is incredible and the music highlights that.
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I might be waaaay off here but ... do you guys think they kinda neglect Alina ? I feel like Eteri is giving all her attention to the juniors and holding her back. I hope I am completely wrong though and just be my imagination ..
No, I don‘t feel like that at all. Alina is their only senior (besides Tursynbaeva but she‘s not even Russian) and she is the reigning Olympic Champion. You don‘t neglect the Olympic Champion unless you‘re out of your mind which I dare say Eteri doesn‘t seem to be. And it would be the most stupid thing to do anyway. While they have a true genius on their hand with Sasha and two very, very promising talents with Anna and Alena, they‘re still only juniors. Next year will be interesting when they all turn senior but for now Alina should be their top priority and I think she is. And it‘s not like her program is that bad. The music cuts do seem a bit messy, yes, but it’s the first version we‘ve seen and while I‘m admittedly a bit critical about it, she‘ll improve over the season. So, no, I don‘t think she‘s being neglected by her coaches and if she was... well, I guess she‘d make the Medvedeva next season and run. Alina is a clever girl and she‘s no longer the outcast next to the World Champion Zhenya. She‘s the Olympic Champion. She knows this, Daniil knows and Eteri, too. They won‘t be stupid to risk her leaving, too. Wouldn‘t make a good impression.
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I might be waaaay off here but ... do you guys think they kinda neglect Alina ? I feel like Eteri is giving all her attention to the juniors and holding her back. I hope I am completely wrong though and just be my imagination ..
I don't think so. They have no reason to do so. She's the Olympic champion after all. I see that many people did not like her short program and are then drawing the conclusion that Eteri's team isn't paying as much attention to her program making as others but let's not forget that things are subjective; programs some will like will be hated by others and they make programs to rake in points before anything. If people on goldenskate or twitter don't like them, it doesn't matter much, judges opinion is what matters. Not everybody loved Evgenia programs in the recent years but they won all the gold medals.
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i think Alina seems like neglected because all the junior have that 3A/quad hype and they are really focused on training it. Alina obviously didnt trying any new jumps or at least didnt hyped up trying any new jumps and get less hype and attention from people. Her music choice was a bit eh though with overused warhorse, but we haven't seen her Carmen so lets not judge that. Her POTO was not that bad though.
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Yes, Tarakanova had a perfect performance at JGPF. But that's somewhere Sinitsyna could never have skated because of not being old enough. And Sinitsyna's had her share of perfect performances. Think about Kostornaya last season, or Zagitova the season before - Both these skaters came out of nowhere, with no merits at all the season before, and earned their spots with their performances at the beginning of the season. The question is, why would it be fair to Sinitsyna to cling to some year-old performance of Tarakanova's considering how well she's performed right here and now? I don't think it would.
And yes indeed, Gubanova should be at seniors and Kanysheva should be below Sinitsyna in my opinion. Maybe they'll send both Sinitsyna and Tarakanova and plan to give a second assignment to the skater who wins.
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You don't jump 3As and quads just because you want to you know? Alina is going through her growth spurts period right now, learning new jumps right now would be crazy tbh. Focusing on bettering the jumps & combos she already has and making them more consistent to gain higher GOE is the smarter option. She's no longer a junior, you can see just how much her body has grown since the last competition in march.
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Well Anna is amazing but I’m not sure this is a fair comparison. She learnt one SP. Nastya has had to learn a new SP AND a new FS - plus she had to get her triples back. I’m pretty sure Nastya has enough choreo to fill one SP - it just happens to be spread across the SP and the FP
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I can’t believe so many Russian junior girls are going to be left without even 1 spot on the jgp!!!!!! How sad, they’re all so talented!!!!
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I‘m glad they‘re not pushing Alina to learn new jumps! Especially not now when she‘s right in the midst of going through puberty which is a hard enough time already. Quads and 3A are insanely hard and you don‘t just “learn“ them you need lots of time, dedication, training and yes, also the right body type to manage to land one of them. Not everybody will get to land a jump like a quad or a 3A, no matter how hard they train. As for Alina, she‘ll never land a 3A, I‘m pretty sure of that. Her 2A simply isn‘t good enough. Even Alena, who is younger and has a better double axel seems to struggle with it. And Sasha currently is the only of Eteri‘s we‘ve seen landing a quad in competition. Quads are dangerous, for men but even more so for females! Sasha is smaller than Alina and she isn‘t growing right now. And while Alina probably has an innate talent for jumps (judging by the fact that at age 12 she had only 3 triples and a mere 3 years later she lands all of them including 3Lz-3Lo), training quads right now would be beyond stupid. I‘m glad that she‘s focusing on different things for now. And honestly, Alina doesn‘t need the “quad-hype“. She‘s getting plenty of attention with her shining OGM, Masaru and her contract with Shiseido.
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