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2018-19 Russian Ladies' figure skating

i've been looking at eteri's girls' lutzes since i saw the lutz videos on youtube.
they talk about pre-rotation and using full blade and of course wrong edge.
i noticed that medvedeva has the worst lutz out of all: clear !inside! edge, full blade on takeoff, excessive pre-rotation
shcherbakova's lutz is pretty bad as well: she has a deep outside edge during her entry but by the time she puts her toepick into the ice, her edge is already inside. also, same as medvedeva, full blade takeoff and excessive pre-rotation
panenkova&trusova are about the same: they have correct edges, but still full blade takeoff and excessive pre-rotation
zagitova is a bit better imo: correct edge and visible pre-rotation(but her pr is better than the others) her main problem is still the full blade takeoff
kostornaia has a much better lutz i think: slight unclear edge and i think her pre-rotation for her lutz is less than 1/4 so it is clearly acceptable and she doesn't really twist her body before she takeoff while all the above mentioned has this problem. and most importantly, she uses her toepick for takeoff, maybe she rocks a bit backward but she's surely not using full blade, not even 1/4 of the blade.
tarakanova&tsurskaya: obviously has the best lutz: both have a clear outside edge and the rest is about the same as kostornaia so i don't bother repeating again.
so, from what i see, the ones who have been with eteri the longest have the worst technique(med and anna), well maybe except tsurskaya(she's a really special jumping talent who has a different technique from the rest of the field). i really appreciate the consistency and the wowing entries of eteri's skaters. but before that, i think she should teach her skaters proper technique to each jump before all the fancy stuff, seriously.
I understand that it's not only eteri's problem, there are lots of russian skaters with bad jumping technique as well but i think that's not an excuse.
look at davydov's current skaters: berestovskaya and samodelkina. both have clear outside edges, minimal pre-rotation and only use their toepick for takeoff. They might not have the best height but at least they're trying with the right technique
or look at panova's skaters: kanysheva, sitnisyna, kostyuk. well kanysheva clearly has the best lutz technique, very deep outside edge, minimal pre-rotation and clear toepick takeoff, but the other two also has good technique on their lutzes as well. not to mention sotskova and tarakanova (her ex-students), which are both known for their lutzes.
and of course, the dr. of jump tech, mishin. his students always have the best technique.
it is not that hard to teach the right technique but it needs a lot of time correcting so i'm hoping that if eteri really decides to take in 5-8 students, she starts teaching them the right technique or else it would be sad to see our future ogm all have bad techniques.
 
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yea I'm too poor to buy it

You don't have 6$ but you do have money to pay for your internet connection? ;)

Anyway, does anybody know if Anna pulled her 4Lz from her FS? I've seen her run-through in Bratislava and she did not go for it, although she did it while practising, just not during the run-through. Maybe Eteri feels she doesn't need it to win and she'll keep it for the final?
 
You don't have 6$ but you do have money to pay for your internet connection? ;)

Anyway, does anybody know if Anna pulled her 4Lz from her FS? I've seen her run-through in Bratislava and she did not go for it, although she did it while practising, just not during the run-through. Maybe Eteri feels she doesn't need it to win and she'll keep it for the final?

To be fair she probably doesnt need it to win but i hope we will see it!
 
Finally we have some news about Nastya Gubanova

https://mrsport.ria.ru/figure_skating/20180823/1140751688.html

In short. She was supposed to take part in JGP, but her new skates (she now is trying the third ones) were blistering her feet severely (can I say like that in English?). Buyanova says her feet were literally bleeding... According to her there's still a chance to take part in JGP later. But I am not that optimistic, honestly.

I must confess the whole new-skates-story sounds rather ridiculous. Anyway, best luck to Nastya.
 
Anyway, does anybody know if Anna pulled her 4Lz from her FS? I've seen her run-through in Bratislava and she did not go for it, although she did it while practising, just not during the run-through. Maybe Eteri feels she doesn't need it to win and she'll keep it for the final?

I don't think so. they're just being careful. She was the first in her group to make a run-through. So maybe she wasn't warmed up enough. That's why she did 4lz-3t-3lo later in the same practice when she was ready.
 

Frankly I'm so annoyed by the attitude towards Gubanova in this thread. People accused her of skipping test skates, of being the fed's new pet, and she was just injured! Now as far as we know she won't have a JGP or a GP spot and now she'll have to qualify for Nationals through CoR stages. That doesn't sound like she's getting any favours whatsoever. Plenty of other skaters have had boot problems in the past, so I don't understand why anyone would assume she's lying.
 
Ridiculous? Have you heard of Karen Chen and her boot problem? It can be very serious.

:unsure: which word should I use instead? Odd, strange, wild, insane? Sorry if I somehow used the wrong word... I just was like WHAAAT :bang: after reading the news... because I really wished Nastya do well this season. And frankly speaking, not in juniors...

It can be very serious, indeed. I don't think it's funny or some sort of lie.
But now it looks like either Nastya coaches didn't care much when problem appeared or there are some other problems, which are not mentioned.
 
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Who do you think will win JGP Bratislava? I think either of Anna's with a chance of making history by Anna S.!
 
I’m rooting for both Annas! Regardless of who wins, let’s hope they both skate clean and perform their best! :yahoo:
 
Finally we have some news about Nastya Gubanova

https://mrsport.ria.ru/figure_skating/20180823/1140751688.html

In short. She was supposed to take part in JGP, but her new skates (she now is trying the third ones) were blistering her feet severely (can I say like that in English?). Buyanova says her feet were literally bleeding... According to her there's still a chance to take part in JGP later. But I am not that optimistic, honestly.

I must confess the whole new-skates-story sounds rather ridiculous. Anyway, best luck to Nastya.

I'm so confused, aren't new skates usually broken in well before the test skates?
And, honestly, that sounds awful, and would understandably affect training, which is why I still don't think it's fair she get a JGP, simply because through no fault of her own she isn't able to train as much as, say, Sinitsyna, who just COMPETED a couple of days ago. Maybe she could still get the host spot since Rostelecom is the 5th GP.
 
what's the problem in producing comfortable skates which doesn't damage skater's foot? i don't get it
why every season it's the same old over and over again, there is always skaters who have problems with their skates.. we live in 2018 and with all the technology, humanity still can't produce decent skates?
 
You don't have 6$ but you do have money to pay for your internet connection? ;)
maybe she/he is a teenager and still live off their parents money? not everyone have their own money... also $6 maybe a small amount in US, Europe, Japan, Korea and other 1st country but in other country that are behind it might be a lot more worth.

I hope Gubanova situation is a sign that she should get Rostelecom spot instead skating at JGP. Hopefully Buyanova have enough power to do that...
 
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