2018 Autumn Classic Intl Ladies Short Program

[el henry]

Source for Orser’s comments? I must have missed that news.

On iPad can’t link. But yes, you must have missed it.

Phil Hersh article in May. Brian specifically talked about the flutz.

Funny that I remember since I could give a rat’s patootie about flutzing

 

[lavenderblossom]

Yulia might want to blend out that contour a bit more.

 

[Sam-Skwantch]

Oh the memories this Alicia Keys song brings up

 

[s_parks]

That is one blinged out dress.

 

[andromache]

Evgenia's jumps are a struggle (the hammer-toe she takes off with just kills me) and the new GOE rules don't favor her.

I'm actually happy to see the judges scoring conservatively, as long as they keep it semi-consistent across competitions at the senior level. The juniors are impressive, but the GOEs are pretty darn out of control. I'd rather see judges at the senior level keep the GOEs realistic instead of giving out 4s and 5s completely willy-nilly.

Agree that the protocols will be very interesting. Bradie's jumps didn't look UR to me at all (though I am bad at detecting it).

 

[Tolstoj]

I'm guessing the lutz was called.

Now that she's making an effort to fix it, it seems the judges have decided to start calling it.

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That too.

At RN they used to call her flutz

 

[Princessroja]

Julia's got a gorgeous dress, but she really needs to blend that blush, especially the giant streak across her forehead.

 

[lavenderblossom]

Really? I thought Evgenia was a model for some of their new GOE points in the guidelines video.

Not for all of them. I think they used her 3Lo, which has good technique.

 

[Interspectator]

oh no..don't tempt fate but skating to Fallin'.

Some music should not be skated to. 'Winner takes it all' is another no-no song. Too much jinxing.

 

[rikaquegira]

Look, if they gave her the edge call and the UR for the 3T that’s a lot of points lost and explains her “low” score.
And let’s not forget Evgenia’s combo do not check the bullets for a +4/+5. Her 2A also must have taken a big hit.
Anyway, under the new scale this performance was not her best. I’m sure it will get better though!

 

[Sam-Skwantch]

Yulia might want to blend out that contour a bit more.

I ran into a friend of mine the other day and her bestie does that with her cheeks on purpose.

 

[andromache]

Really? I thought Evgenia was a model for some of their new GOE points in the guidelines video.

Was she? (I'll admit I did not watch the videos.) It's my understanding that the new GOE system rewards height and distance and technique above everything else - which aren't Evgenia's strong points.

 

[Tolstoj]

Evgenia's jumps are a struggle (the hammer-toe she takes off with just kills me) and the new GOE rules don't favor her.

I'm actually happy to see the judges scoring conservatively, as long as they keep it semi-consistent across competitions at the senior level. The juniors are impressive, but the GOEs are pretty darn out of control. I'd rather see judges at the senior level keep the GOEs realistic instead of giving out 4s and 5s completely willy-nilly.

Agree that the protocols will be very interesting. Bradie's jumps didn't look UR to me at all (though I am bad at detecting it).

I don't think score is wrong or low here even compared to juniors, it looked fair to me.

This wasn't a better SP than what Anna Shcherbakova and Alena Kostornaya did few weeks ago: i can see the improvements on the artistic side but yeah still lots of work on the jumps.

 

[Colonel Green]

Source for Orser’s comments? I must have missed that news.

Voila:

"She is going to reinvent herself," Orser said of Medvedeva. "Even though she has some amazing titles, I feel they are the tip of the iceberg, that there is so much more she can do."

Will one of them be fixing the "flutz" -- the wrong edge takeoff on Medvedeva's triple lutz -- that has been a subject of controversy, since judges rarely call her on it?

"I'm going to do my best," Orser said, with a laugh. "I have been looking at it already. I'm not going try to disguise it or put it in a corner.

"That's not going to be an easy one, but I think she's open to this. She's open to the change."

Well, with Eteri she did 1 Lz, pretty obvious i suppose.

Sure, everybody knew she had a flutz, but there's a difference between that being something gossiped about on forums or behind the scenes, and another for the skater's camp to publicly admit that she's doing the jump wrong.

 

[Shanshani]

Her body is quite different now. While I think it will work for her better in the long-run, it will take some time to adjust to and I wouldn't expect her to get the milage out of it right away.

I think it's less her body and more that she's retooling her jump technique and is therefore more likely to mess up when nervous. She landed all her axels in her warmups beautifully.

 

[lavenderblossom]

Wakaba Starr

 

[IceBallerina]

1 step back, two steps forward. Medvedeva will struggle for some time before she really starts showing progress. I think people expect too much and I’m already seeing the negativity.

 

[rikaquegira]

Voila:




Sure, everybody knew she had a flutz, but there's a difference between that being something gossiped about on forums or behind the scenes, and another for the skater's camp to publicly admit that she's doing the jump wrong.

It’s not like Evgenia’s Flutz was NEVER called. She received a few e’s throughout her career and a few ! too.

 

[Metis]

On iPad can’t link. But yes, you must have missed it.

Phil Hersh article in May. Brian specifically talked about the flutz.

Funny that I remember since I could give a rat’s patootie about flutzing[emoji3]

I found it! For the curious: http://www.globetrottingbyphiliphersh.com/home/russia-figure-skating-olympics-orser-medvedeva

Will one of them be fixing the "flutz" -- the wrong edge takeoff on Medvedeva's triple lutz -- that has been a subject of controversy, since judges rarely call her on it?

"I'm going to do my best," Orser said, with a laugh. "I have been looking at it already. I'm not going try to disguise it or put it in a corner.

"That's not going to be an easy one, but I think she's open to this. She's open to the change."

 

[lavenderblossom]

Current standings

1 Evgenia Medvedeva 70.98
2 Bradie Tennell 69.26
3 Mae Berenice Meite 58.23
4 Alexia Paganini 56.37
5 Kailani Craine 56.20
6 Brooklee Han 54.05
7 Alicia Pineault 52.47
8 Eliska Brezinova 51.26
9 Yura Matsuda 47.75
10 Josefin Taljegard 47.32
11 Andrea Montesinos Cantu 43.25
12 Netta Schreiber 41.86
13 Anastassiya Khvan 33.66
14 Brooke Tamepo 30.61
15 Julia Gretarsdottir 26.69
16 Eva Dogg Saemundsdottir 28.82