Wow! I guess Daria and Alyona will get shifted to Riga (and then Kamila, Maya, and Viktoria get Chelyabinsk?)
2019-20 Russian Ladies' Figure Skating
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Wow! I guess Daria and Alyona will get shifted to Riga (and then Kamila, Maya, and Viktoria get Chelyabinsk?)
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FFKKR most likely will save their strongest contenders for the home event: Valiyeva, Kanysheva and Sinitsyna to go by their test skates impressions.
Plus how many extra home spots they have for Chelyabinsk?
Vasil’yeva? No, I don’t think so. In FFKKR’s Test Skates resume, Davydov was critical about her.
#TeamTutberidzeForProgress’ rapid advance and almost immediate results forced a whole generation of skaters into early retirement and are still forcing skaters with a certain body type that cannot cope with the physical demands into injury because of over training?
Plus how many extra home spots they have for Chelyabinsk?
Vasil’yeva? No, I don’t think so. In FFKKR’s Test Skates resume, Davydov was critical about her.
#TeamTutberidzeForProgress’ rapid advance and almost immediate results forced a whole generation of skaters into early retirement and are still forcing skaters with a certain body type that cannot cope with the physical demands into injury because of over training?
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They can substitute any skaters in the list. I think there is a limit (a week before competition?). I'm sure we will see changes in other events.
Will they really take their three strongest girls to Chelyabinsk? It seems like a waste to give one of their strongest girls a bronze medal and hurt her JGPF chances. What about two of their strongest and one riskier one?
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That makes more sense given that 3rd places don’t really count when you have such a strong, even the dominant, selection.
I was just thinking along the lines of coverage, exposure, prestige.
How many extra spots does FFKKR have in Chelyabinsk? Unlimited, then put all the skaters up and have the best TV broadcast and revenue ;-)
I was just thinking along the lines of coverage, exposure, prestige.
How many extra spots does FFKKR have in Chelyabinsk? Unlimited, then put all the skaters up and have the best TV broadcast and revenue ;-)
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They don’t usually make their strongest face each other on the JGP. I see them going with their best junior(Kamila), a mid-range junior, and a newer/weaker junior to balance things out. My guess would be Kamila, Anna/Viktoria, and Maya/Darya.
There are 3 spots for ladies, so one extra.
Unlimited number of entries goes to pairs only.
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Or maybe if Frolova gets an assignment that’s where she’ll go, essentially the host pick at Chelyabinsk.
That’s a really good point that someone is going to get screwed there. I can see them going with her rather than an Eteri skater.
That’s a really good point that someone is going to get screwed there. I can see them going with her rather than an Eteri skater.
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Or they do it so that not all eteri skaters get a shot at jgpf
I think there are also expectations Valieva will destroy hopes of a number of potential JGPF contenders. Now there are Alison Schumacher who is the leading Canadian junior, Tomoe Kawabata and Nana Araki from Japan both I believe are among top Japanese juniors this season. Jihun To and Seoyeong Wi are also on top of Korean team. Plus to them Hanna Harrell one of US team leaders, Anna Kuzmenko of France and Alina Urushadze from Georgia are also leading skaters of their federations and had decent results last season.
Ladies free skate at JGP Courchevel is on friday 23rd and I will have to be on my friend's wedding, so I probably won't see Kamila's free skate live :curse:
But this change is interresting, I'm curious whether Kamila would go to Riga now, only two weeks after France, or if she will be shifted to some later event.
But this change is interresting, I'm curious whether Kamila would go to Riga now, only two weeks after France, or if she will be shifted to some later event.
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A clean skating Valiyeva will be -very- hard to beat though. I realistically see no competition for her if the improves on what she has shown in the Test Skates.
For Valiyeva most important right now is setting her mind right, make her tough, concentrate her on dealing only with circumstances in her control and learn her to ignore extraneous circumstances beyond her control.
Focus her mentally also, which is necessary from the psychological part of preparing a still very young and untested athlete. She knows the drill, has passed several minor tests already, but JGP is an entirely different matter for Russian skaters. And don't underestimate Kanysheva, she is equally ambitious, has the skills and proven her worth. Even though the girls are rink mates, they’ll prepare themselves independently, trusting and relying on their trainers to set them up in the best possible way to maximize their chances. I wouldn’t be able to stand in the boots of any Khrustalniy trainer, they are so professional in dealing with all these talents.
I’ve finished interpreting the resume Russian ISU technical specialist gave in the interview with FFKKR. He is very commendable to Valiyeva of course: https://www.goldenskate.com/forum/s...gure-Skating&p=2432032&viewfull=1#post2432032
Here is some more food for thought re: Kamila's qualities and chances: https://www.goldenskate.com/forum/s...mila-Valieva&p=2432956&viewfull=1#post2432956
No doubt Khrustalniy and FFKKR are setting Kamila Valiyeva up to become JGPF Gold Medalist and Junior World Champion, but so much can still go wrong I hate to think about it.
There's no point in blocking Eteri skaters from JGPF, though. It's not like JWC where there are more Eteri skaters than spots available, Eteri has four junior ladies this year and there are six JGPF spots available. If Russia wants 5 or 6 Russians at JGPF then they're not going to try blocking Eteri skaters from the final. That's just counter-productive.
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Exactly, the other rinks just have to prove their skaters are worthy of the JGPF. Sankt Peterburg is down and out, only Moscow remains, and what if Vasil'yeva and Tarusina won't compete in JGP after all because of their readiness/recovery?
In my book Khrustalniy indeed has the best chance of domination in the JGPF. Sinitsyna IMO has a better chance than either Usachyova or Khromikh of medaling, Tarakanova is a dark horse I wouldn't bet upon going by last weeks Test Skates. Frolova likely won’t make the final.
But who knows which skater's surprise performance at the Moscow Open will get her a spot on the JGP start lists?
It is going to be very interesting and extremely tense for must of us fans, just imagine yourself in the position of one of those top skaters.
Here is what Aleksandra Trusova's parents had to say last year: https://www.goldenskate.com/forum/s...ndra-Trusova&p=2432937&viewfull=1#post2432937
I am not here plugging my interpretations of these articles and interviews, just inviting you to read what goes on in the heads of trainers, directors, parents and skaters themselves.
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I would aim to getting 5 spots at the finals (Alysa being the 6th). Now, since Russia doesn't have an all-star team like in the last season, I'd even put Kamila up against Alysa, so that more girls have a chance to get a gold on the other events, which drastically increases the chance to get a spot. The other thing is that the unlucky hosts may complain about their weak line-ups.
Wow, I used to translate a lot of stuff here on GS (and still hope to get back to my channel one day), but now, this is what I call an industrial scale.
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Kamila will be skating in JGP, representing Russia for the first time in her life, right? Which means she'll enter a whole different dimension.
JGP being held in very high prestige by FFKKR, every sports publication writing about it, extracts on the main daily news, live TV coverage nationwide? The expectations will be enormous, the pressure huge.
Imagine that kind of pressure on a 13 year old bubbly child ...
And this is just the kind of pressure Kamila’s trainers and parents should learn her to ignore until competition is finished.
So in the usual Khrustalniy way, radio silence, no distractions, no disturbances, work, work, work without risking a burnout. Injuries can always happen, but will be prevented as best as possible.
S Bogom, Kamila!
JGP being held in very high prestige by FFKKR, every sports publication writing about it, extracts on the main daily news, live TV coverage nationwide? The expectations will be enormous, the pressure huge.
Imagine that kind of pressure on a 13 year old bubbly child ...
And this is just the kind of pressure Kamila’s trainers and parents should learn her to ignore until competition is finished.
So in the usual Khrustalniy way, radio silence, no distractions, no disturbances, work, work, work without risking a burnout. Injuries can always happen, but will be prevented as best as possible.
S Bogom, Kamila!
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I’m not surprised Kamila will be at the first event - I thought she would be assigned there initially before they came out. Not only because they usually assign their strongest “new” skater to the first event (2017 - Trusova’s debut, 2018 - Anna’s debut), but also because the timing works out for her to have her 2nd event at JGP Russia. With the 3A up to senior, she is the biggest star/biggest draw to the event. She has been featured on channel 1 before and during the test skates more than any other skaters.
I’m wondering if after test skates Rus Fed wants to separate Alena and Daria. To me they were the clear #3 and 4, so both have an opportunity to win their events if they aren’t head to head. I guess time will tell which events they end up assigned to
I’m wondering if after test skates Rus Fed wants to separate Alena and Daria. To me they were the clear #3 and 4, so both have an opportunity to win their events if they aren’t head to head. I guess time will tell which events they end up assigned to
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Wait. What happened? Russian federation switched up their entries for jgp France? So instead of seeing Kanysheva and Usacheva at the first event, we’re seeing Valieva and someone else?
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Just out of curiosity, who was #2 in your eyes? Sinitsyna, I guess? She really had good performances.
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Sinitsyna was one of the two who didn't make obvious mistakes and also has Loop combo. Now I am wondering whether she'll be moved from JGP in USA since Alysa Liu and also Tarakanova are there. But only Tarusina is listed as sub. Maybe she'll get better until this competition?
