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If someone has magnificent jumps of course it's going to influence the program, I meant more in a way that if you had two skaters that you'd put in about the same pcs category and one has a way higher tech content, but both are clean, in my opinion it can get a little iffy, even this is a hypothetical situation.Oops, don't know if you can use that word here :roll5:
But besides that... what is fair? It might seem unfair to you, it will be fair to others.
FS is a subjective sport, and fairness will be there for some people, and others will be running around with their 'wuzzrobbed' mantras.
Guys, what you are talking about here are all subjective things, PCS is VERY subjective besides maybe TR, SS and CO, and even those three 'more objective' components will be a subject to subjective evaluation.
How do you estimate if someone's transitions are 0.5 points better than other skater, and not 0.25 or 0.75? Those are subjective measurements, you just can't expect the judges to get something evaluated 'right' (or more like what you just as subjectively want it to be), it's not going to happen.
And then that 0.25 point difference might make a crucial difference in points, we've seen many cases where skaters lose by a difference of less than a point.
And whether you want it or not, TES will affect PCS, because technical deficiencies do detract from performance and the impression it makes on the judges. But technical superiority on contrast, makes a great impression. It's easy to say "those should be separate", but when you're watching it live and someone lands magnificent jumps, it does matter and changes on our own outlook on performances. And having two panels would've never solved that issue too imo.
Like even with Zagitova/Medvedeva/Osmond skate off, I don't know who should've won, those were all very close imo. (to my subjective opinion, Zagitova's performances were the performance of the nights.) But obviously other people will see it differently and have their own opinions. Some will say Kaetlyn is the real OG, some will say Medvedeva,
there's no way to define it.
Moreover, it seems like there's no way to satisfy people: when PCS win against TES like in Lysacek/Plushenko case people will be upset. If TES wins against PCS people are upset again.
I don't mean unfair judging doesn't happen at all, it certainly does happen and we've seen accounts of some clear fixed judging over the years.
But overall, it certainly doesn't mean that all the judging done in so many years is wrong and all results should completely be thrown out of the window.
And to the 'what is fair' I understand that it's very hard to judge pcs and I try to be understanding but I do think that sometimes small fed skaters have a little disadvantage(not in a "wuzrobbed" way)