2019-20 Russian Ladies' Figure Skating

[Alex65]

If the starting order is correct, seems like RusFed continues her crusade against Sasha. She usually fails starting after her competitors, if they succeeded...

Well, then what? She won't get a gold medal here?

 

[Vandevska]

Or maybe it's just a starting order drawn out of a hat.

Didn't you know there HAS to be a conspiracy about everything? :dev3:

 

[Watch]

If the starting order is correct, seems like RusFed continues her crusade against Sasha. She usually fails starting after her competitors, if they succeeded.
Some may say it's a good opportunity to train herself for this particular situation, so...

Rusfed has a crusade against Sasha? How so and why? Sasha isn't ever supposed to skate after her competitors?

 

[nussnacker]

Eteri wont be happy with maiia. Guess she will (have to) leave eteri soon.

Oh geez... some of you are being ridiculous.

As if Eteri spends her days thinking “eeny-meeny-moe who should I kick out today?”

 

[halulupu]

Guys, on Alina's first junior eligible year she didn't even make it onto the JGP. Give Maiia time. Let her live. God forbid an injured thirteen-year-old makes mistakes at her first two international competitions.

Dont mean she doesnt deserve time. She indeed is a very lovely skater overall. Time have changed since alina was a junior at team tuberize however.

 

[karina17]

Dont mean she doesnt deserve time. She indeed is a very lovely skater overall. Time have changed since alina was a junior at team tuberize however.

I understand what you mean, but even if times have changed, they haven't changed so much that one bad JGP season means you'll never get another chance again. Last year Kseniia got a bronze, couldn't get a second assignment but was later assigned to JWC that same year. And this year she's one of the strongest juniors. Outside all the Russian ladies, the Korean ladies who've beaten the Russian girls this year weren't much last year, they improved with time and experience. Maiia is still young and she always has next year to make JGPF and/or JWC.

People are right, the 3A girls spoiled us. It's not normal to come out on the first junior season and skate perfectly (though if I'm not wrong even Alena messed up a little here and there during her first season, and Anna had a whole meltdown at JGPF last year).

 

[Artemisa]

Thinking things through here...

Route to the final

Competitors:
Alysa Liu: With a gold already in Lake Placid, any medal at Gdansk will put her in the final
Haein Lee: With a gold already in Riga, any medal at Zagreb will put her in the final

Russians:
Kamila Valieva: With a gold already in Courchevel, any medal in Chelyabinsk will put her in the final
Daria Usacheva: With a silver already in Riga, a gold or silver medal in her second assignment (Egna?) will put her in the final
Ksenia Sinitsyna: Still to skate, but looks to be a favorite for silver in Chelyabinsk, so a second silver or a gold in her second assignment will put her in the final
Alyona Kanysheva: Still to skate, and status unknown, but earned two silvers last year. Repeating that performance would put her in the final.
Anastasia Tarakanova: With a bronze already in Lake Placid, a gold medal in Zagreb would put in the final
Viktoria Vasilieva/Anna Frolova: Still to skate, but likely to get anywhere from 2nd-5th place in their event. Earning a silver medal would get them a second assignment most likely, and another silver would put them in the final.

Maya Kromykh: appears to be out, with a bronze medal from Courchevel and a fourth place from Riga

well ... first year in many that russian girls have to do counts to the final ... and finally who has one gold or less can have a shot in a final

 

[halulupu]

I understand what you mean, but even if times have changed, they haven't changed so much that one bad JGP season means you'll never get another chance again. Last year Kseniia got a bronze, couldn't get a second assignment but was later assigned to JWC that same year. And this year she's one of the strongest juniors. Outside all the Russian ladies, the Korean ladies who've beaten the Russian girls this year weren't much last year, they improved with time and experience. Maiia is still young and she always has next year to make JGPF and/or JWC.

People are right, the 3A girls spoiled us. It's not normal to come out on the first junior season and skate perfectly (though if I'm not wrong even Alena messed up a little here and there during her first season, and Anna had a whole meltdown at JGPF last year).

With another coach maybe.

 

[nussnacker]

I understand what you mean, but even if times have changed, they haven't changed so much that one bad JGP season means you'll never get another chance again. Last year Kseniia got a bronze, couldn't get a second assignment but was later assigned to JWC that same year. And this year she's one of the strongest juniors. Outside all the Russian ladies, the Korean ladies who've beaten the Russian girls this year weren't much last year, they improved with time and experience. Maiia is still young and she always has next year to make JGPF and/or JWC.

People are right, the 3A girls spoiled us. It's not normal to come out on the first junior season and skate perfectly (though if I'm not wrong even Alena messed up a little here and there during her first season, and Anna had a whole meltdown at JGPF last year).

on a bright side of things, I guess people will stop saying Eteri has a conveyor belt, or comparing skaters to models of iPhones, since welp, all girls are different and expecting these three to be better was setting the expectations way too high.
And all the talks that Eteri doesn't care about Alina/3A/*insert any other Eteri skater here* can stop, because for now, we can establish she doesn't care about Maia and Dasha.
Next time, if Kameshek doesn't do well, we'll find out who else she doesn't care about!

 

[Bluediamonds09]

Elena Komova: I know she skates for Great Britain, but did she used to skate for Russia? The name sounds similar to, say, Kanysheva or Shabotova. She’s competing next week at jgp Russia.

 

[Tolstoj]

Rusfed has nothing to do with what Channel 1 wants to film. Similarly, Channel 1 has nothing to do with Rusfed not inviting those three.
Channel 1 is a media and follows whatever's the most popular and buzzy.
Rusfed has its own purposes and goals, this event was private and closed for a long time for the sole purpose of helping skaters with feedback.
It isn't meant to be a show, and even if it was, more girls surely wouldn't have hurt the show.
It's still strange that none of the three were invited.

And don't you think all skaters member of the Russian team would benefit from those feedbacks? I kinda don't like this first class / second class citizen thing considering they all made the team for GP, adding 3-4 skaters more would have changed nothing.

 

[nussnacker]

And don't you think all skaters member of the Russian team would benefit from those feedbacks? I kinda don't like this first class / second class citizen thing considering they all made the team for GP, adding 3-4 skaters more would have changed nothing.

They sure would, any skater would've benefited from feedback.
We don't know why they weren't invited, but saying it's because Rufed has some agenda to discriminate their own skaters is silly, imo.
People were making up conspiracies on how federation did not invite Safonova, because she's not training with the *right coach*, right until it turned out she decided to skate for Belarus.
If someone wasn't invited, it probably happened for a reason, a valid reason.
It's strange, they totally could've invited more, but I honestly doubt it's because they were like "I don't know if my precious eyes deserve to endure those 2nd class skaters"

 

[JazzUp]

Alina - 1TV clip "On my motivation & how I stopped being superstitious" Cleopatra bits included

 

[JazzUp]

doing those documentaries or little clips from Perviy Kanal only for Eteri's skaters

Oh, so Sofya and Tuktik are now with Eteri too?!? Good to know.

P.S. Sofya must be Eteri's & 1TV's favourite 100% - her clip is 01:35 long, while someone's called Alina was 01:27.

 

[Vandevska]

Oh, so Sofya and Tuktik are now with Eteri too?!? Good to know.

P.S. Sofya must be Eteri's & 1TV's favourite 100% - her clip is 01:35 long, while someone's called Alina was 01:27.

Don't get so riled up so early, the day is long [emoji23]

 

[flanker]

I would not be surprised. Maybe Panova will take her? She's done.

I'm done with the predictions about who's done.

 

[Vandevska]

I'm done with the predictions about who's done.

Same! Let the skaters decide when they're done! Liza Tuktik was struggling for 3 years in a row and look at her now. Why can't we enjoy them always, even if they don't win or medal it's still nice to see them. This feels like skaters being tossed away like a crinkled piece of used paper.

 

[Fluture]

The amount of conspiracy theories + “she‘s done, go retire already“ on the last few pages has been a bit much even for this thread. We haven‘t even had test skates yet. Imagine what it will be like during Worlds. Or better not. Scary thought.. :noshake:

 

[Vilord]

How long until test skates start? And do we have a stream link?

 

[ruga]

I still think it's too bad they didn't invite Sakhanovich, Sotskova or Gubanova. They would still have 2 groups. Also, there are 9 dance teams, why not have more ladies from a much deeper field. But I'm still happy these skates take place and that we will get a good quality videos.