Canadian commentator Ted Barton - about Trusova, Valiyeva and the age limit in figure skating.
We talked with the main expert on juniors.
Ted Barton is the Canadian counterpart of Tat’yana Tarasova. He was a promising skater, but injuries did not allow him to perform at senior level. Then he worked as a coach and prepared several winners of the World Championships and the Olympics. He worked as a judge and functionary in the International Skating Union (ISU) and the Figure Skating Federation of Canada. He currently serves as vice president of Skate Canada.
An important achievement of Barton - he was one of the first who spoke out in favour of the current judging system, which replaced the archaic six-point one, supported the exclusion of mandatory figures from the competitive program, and insisted on the technicalisation of refereeing. So, according to his project in 2006, ISU first introduced video replays for judges. Now special cameras for the judiciary are an indispensable attribute of international competitions.
At the same time, the average viewer best remembers Barton as a commentator. He commented on the largest Canadian TV channels for many years, and recently he went on international air: ISU launched its YouTube broadcasts with the stages of the Junior Grand Prix.
Barton does not just comment on the stages of the Grand Prix, he has become an integral part of these stages. He shoots several reports from each city, extended interviews. So, in one of the programs, Ted talked with Eteri Tutberidze - the coach of Alina Zagitova and Aleksandra Trusova.
In an interview with BUSINESS Online, Barton shared his views on the prospects of the Russian juniors, expressed his attitude to the age limit in figure skating, and spoke about the technological innovations and plans of the ISU to introduce an artistic program.
“I AM ALREADY MANY YEARS IN FIGURE SKATING, BUT I HAVE NOT SEEN SUCH INTEREST BEFORE”
Q: Ted, how often did you visit Russia?
A: If I’m not mistaken, I am in Russia for my eighth time. I first went back in 1982 with my athletes, when I worked as a coach. Then I haven't been to Russia for a long time. I first worked from Russia only two years ago - as a commentator at the junior Grand Prix stage in Saransk.
Q: Do you now mainly cover junior sports?
A: Yes. But we - I, Skate Canada and ISU - are thinking how to develop further. We are considering different options for how to broadcast senior competitions and other important events. Of course, viewers want to watch the European Championship, the Championship of Four Continents, the World Championships. But the fact is that even ISU can’t just start broadcasting the World Championships on YouTube. There are a lot of legal and bureaucratic issues. But in the future, something new can be expected in this direction.
Q: Previously, junior figure skating was only interesting for specialists. Did Russian juniors change this?
A: Yes, and cardinally! The last two years, the competitions with these amazing girls were the best for me as ISU commentator and for ISU's media channel. Trusova, Shcherbakova and Kostornaya made a great contribution to the popularisation of junior disciplines. I have been in figure skating for many years, but I have never seen so much interest in juniors.
These girls deserve such an interest in themselves. They are incredible. When I first saw Trusova two years ago in Brisbane, I immediately realised this girl would be making history. Her name is already in the Guinness Book of Records! Further on in the Grand Prix, Alyona Kostornaya, Anna Shcherbakova made their debuts. Interest only increased. They are not only strong athletes - they are also strong personalities.
Q: Now they have passed into the seniors. Are you upset?
A: Of course not, I'm happy for them! It’s time for them to move to a new stage. I'm in anticipation of their first senior season. Aleksandra Trusova makes her debut at the senior Grand Prix in my homeland, in Canada. We have planned several coverages and broadcasts from Skate Canada, and I'm sure something historic will happen. Perhaps we will see a new world record.
I watched Trusova skate in the Open Test Skates of the Russian national team and still am very impressed. Three quads in one program - unbelievable! And I believe Aleksandra can also skate like that in Canada.
“I DO NOT THINK AN AGE RISE IS NECESSARY”
Q: The place of Trusova, Kostornaya and Shcherbakova was taken over by other juniors. Who would you like to mention first of all?
A: Kamila Valiyeva. She is a special girl, truly special. Her skating is very different from Trusova's. I will not tell who is better - they are just very different. People like Valiyeva rarely appear in figure skating and usually stay long. She is incredibly talented, purposeful, but still very young. WE need to wait a bit to accurately talk about her prospects.
Ksenyia Sinitsyna is also skating quite well. From other countries, I note Alysa Liu and a number of Korean girls. In Korea, figure skating is developing very rapidly. In truth, even better than in Japan.
A: Trusova, Valiyeva, Scherbakova - they became popular and famous at a very young age. How will this affect them?
Q: Every great athlete goes through this. They develop, become stronger, wiser. They are trying to understand themselves, to understand what their main goal in life is. For some, this goal will be sport, for others something else. This is a normal situation. But now their bodies are changing, their minds are changing, they are changing. I look at Trusova, she is growing every month. She is a completely different girl now compared to how she was two years ago in Brisbane. Of course, it is difficult for a teenager at age 13 to live surrounded by attention of people from all over the world. But, on the other hand, such a childhood brings up strong personalities, develops character. I believe they can handle it.
If they also train hard, keep their love for sports, overcome physiological difficulties, nothing prevents juniors from performing at a high level after several years. Moreover, their skating will only progress from year to year. It all depends on themselves.
Q: In Russia, many experts believe that it is necessary to clearly separate junior sports from senior. They offer to raise the age limit to 18 years. What do you think about this?
A: I heard a lot of different arguments both in favour of age qualification and against. But I do not think these age qualifications are necessary. These are artificial measures that impede the development of sports. Without question, we must protect the health of juniors, both psychological and physical. And the current rules can handle this quite well. But if you go too far, we will simply lose all these talented children. They will not reach senior skating, will not wait for their chance, will lose motivation. This cannot be allowed.
Now we see how many young girls do triple Axel's and quadruples. Russian figure skaters set a new standard in women's single skating, at which the rest of the world first looked closely, before beginning to compete under those new conditions. Now quads are taught in the United States, Korea, and Japan. Just because the Russians do not leave them any other choice. This is a sport - everyone wants to win.
Female quads are a completely new phenomenon for figure skating, which you need to get used to. Need to study. Let's see how for long those juniors who have now passed into seniors will be performing. Will they keep their hardest jumps. Elisabet Tursynbayeva, for example, managed to do this.
A balance needs to be maintained. Let the girls develop, learn the most difficult jumps, but at the same time prevent excessive injuries. Sport should not be destructive or dangerous. You need to study all the opinions, listen to both sides and think carefully about everything. But right now, no changes to the rules are worth doing. These will be rash decisions.
In the end, if the Russians with quadruples are only good technically, other skaters can try to beat them with good skating skils. Try a different strategy, try your own way. The door to victory is open to all and this is great. Look at the skating of the Korean women, they have incredible sliding skills. Should the Russians stumble - they are ready to immediately take their place.
“RUSSIA IS VERY STRONG NOW, BUT REMEMBER VANCOUVER?”
Q: You were the first to introduce video replays in figure skating. Now the Japanese are developing a computer refereeing system. Is there a future for this?
A: I think yes. Sport must be objective, which means that the human factor must be minimised. Technology already allows us to do incredible things. I saw how, with the help of a gyroscope, the correct edge was determined on the toepick jumps. The computer calculates everything accurately and in seconds, while a person needs time to see the details. Technical issues, everything related to the quality of the jumps - this should be evaluated by robots, not people.
At the same time, one should not forget that figure skating is also an art. And the aesthetic part of our sport can never be appreciated by any computer, never. Here you need to feel the skating, emotions, artistry. Therefore, living people from the panel of judges will never disappear. We need the right combination of human sensations and technical capabilities. But I am sure that in the future the judging system in figure skating will be seriously revised. Already, technology plays an important role in scoring, but we still have a long way to go to develop these technologies.
Q: When can we expect these changes?
A: Soon. The problem is that tests are needed to develop a computer judging system. Tests are difficult to conduct at training rinks, they requires competitive conditions. The more often new programs will be tested at ISU competitions, the faster we will see them in practice.
You can add more cameras right now. It is very difficult for judges to discern some jumps. Television cameras do not solve the problem, more judging cameras are needed, at different points on the ice rink, with different angles of shooting. It would be ideal if they put on eight cameras.
Q: ISU Vice President Aleksander Lakernik made a proposal to dramatically change figure skating. Divide it into two subsets: an artistic program and a technical one, two sets of medals and new rules. What do you think about it?
A: I heard about this idea before, but only from you now I learned that Lakernik supports it. I'll have to talk to him. The idea is interesting, but so far it is not very clear what exactly such programs look like. I like that the ISU doesn't stand still. People are trying to make the sport more spectacular, interesting, popular. That's great. Figure skating should not be stuck in the past, we must be open to any offers from all over the world. But at the same time, you need to think carefully about everything. The biggest mistake is rash steps. Right now I can’t tell I am in favour or against this initiative. You need to clearly understand what exactly is proposed to change and how it will affect our sport.
Q: In Canada, there are big problems in figure skating. What are they connected with?
A: There are many reasons. But I wouldn't say that everything is very bad. History is cyclical. Now Russia is very strong in figure skating, but remember the Olympics in Vancouver? Then your team had a lot of problems. It is impossible to win constantly.
We had a very successful Olympics in Pyeongchang, won the team tournament, medals in dancing, couples and girls. We had the best team in history. Now almost all the people from this team have left the sport. It takes time for new people to fully step up to their places. Therefore, we must wait. We are waiting for a new generation, and I think that it will not be weaker than the previous one. Because we love figure skating and thousands of people follow the sport.
Q: What does working as a commentator mean to you?
A: It was never the main thing for me. I like to do commentary, but it's just one part of my life. I try to comment honestly, clearly and interestingly. These are the three main things. I hope people enjoy my work. If not, I am always ready for criticism. Criticism is good. It helps us to improve our work.
(c)Рустам Имамов
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