2019-20 Russian Ladies' Figure Skating

[Giltedge]

That was a valiant 4T, though UR, by Liza B and helped her to victory in RC4, CMS. Good to see a healthy rivalry building up between Team Davidov's quadsters and Team Tutberidze's. You hear about quad fever breaking out across all the regions now. Can only benefit the sport.

 

[Giltedge]

And exactly what ignorance and prejudice would that be?

They're all over the place below the fold in Youtube, Ig etc. Even if you're trying not to look/listen :sad46:

That's why it's nice to come across a nice constructive comment, like that I quoted of Tolstoj's.

 

[el henry]

I think Mishaminion was talking about the content of the language used in the YouTube comments rather than the sound or writing of it. Like nasty comments about the skaters.

I'm trying to learn Russian actually and I've wondered about the Russian words for Germany versus a person from Germany so thanks for the explanation!

On topic - Zhenya was awesome, Sasha was great to watch and I didn't think Stasya did that badly, but with so much depth in the Russian Ladies I can see why she was disappointed in herself.

Best of luck to them all tomorrow!

Thank you for this explanation; which is what, having read the entire conversation and not jumping to conclusions from one sentence, is what I also believed the reference to be.

Best of luck to everyone in the free

 

[el henry]

They're all over the place below the fold in Youtube, Ig etc. Even if you're trying not to look/listen :sad46:

That's why it's nice to come across a nice constructive comment, like that I quoted of Tolstoj's.

Just making sure you weren’t referring to a misunderstanding of a post in this Forum, that would be unfortunate

 

[colormyworld240]

I don’t think anyone believes anyone other than Trusova will win this event. The quads will save her no matter who she skates against. At least this year. The real competition will be between the other ladies. I also haven’t heard anything about Sasha being ill, but considering several athletes of this level have skated through illnesses and serious injuries, I don’t see Eteri scaling back her program. She will land her quads and win.

They scaled Sasha's program back to only one quad last season at a JGP when she was ill. In any case, I think Sasha should be able to win with just 1 or 2 quads here.

 

[colormyworld240]

I don't know but i have a feeling Eteri would mad as hell if Sasha doesn't beat Zhenya.

Remember 4 years ago when Evgenia lost to TAT's favourite Elena Radionova at Rostelecom Cup, Eteri was stone face all the time.

I honestly think that's just her face. She had the same face when her students won/lost Olympics, nationals, GPF, when Alina melted down at worlds, and when Alina won worlds. The only time she gave a smile today was when Sasha had her fall before the program and even then it was only a small one. She's not really the type to give big smiles when they're happy - I've only seen her really smile when something is funny.

 

[lusterfan]

I honestly think that's just her face. She had the same face when her students won/lost Olympics, nationals, GPF, when Alina melted down at worlds, and when Alina won worlds. The only time she gave a smile today was when Sasha had her fall before the program and even then it was only a small one. She's not really the type to give big smiles when they're happy - I've only seen her really smile when something is funny.

She was beaming when Tursynbaeva won her silver at 2019 Worlds too. Most happy I had seen her in a very long time.

 

[Manitou]

Apparently among those families, the germans never quite socialized with the russians, they were always mute and the russian word for mute is "немой"
and that's why they are "немцы".

Peter The Great had nothing to do with the word “немцы”. The name “Niemcy” already existed probably in pre-Christian Slavic tribes and is the word the Germans have been officially called in Poland since probably VIII century, long before the Russians even existed. So the word is (1) not Russian but Slavic, (2) has existed for over 1000 years and (3) there are others Slavs than Russians in the world.

 

[Vandevska]

Okay, news flash, Sasha never said she's sick. I'm not sure why people keep claiming this, although, no confirmation was done whatsoever.

Because people being people. [emoji23]

 

[karina17]

Even if it's true that Sasha is sick, Sasha did land the first woman's 4Lz while sick, because she is Sasha. So I don't think that changes too much.

 

[Haikush]

Compared to Kostornaja, medvedeva is very slow and boring to watch.
Trusova was clearly better today.
PCS scoring was a shame as always.

LOL...Trusova's PCS were indeed a shame
And Med is not slow or boring...WTF were you watching

 

[Nord Stream 2]

Peter The Great had nothing to do with the word “немцы”. The name “Niemcy” already existed probably in pre-Christian Slavic tribes and is the word the Germans have been officially called in Poland since probably VIII century, long before the Russians even existed. So the word is (1) not Russian but Slavic, (2) has existed for over 1000 years and (3) there are others Slavs than Russians in the world.

Everything you wrote is probably true.

Except that in the 8th century there was no state of Poland (the land of the inhabitants of the fields is being translated). The state of Russia was not founded either.
The first Russians officially suddenly appeared at the walls of Constantinople (Byzantium) in the middle of the 9th century and began to receive tribute from the Byzantine Empire. This is in the real old Byzantine chronicles of those years. All other European chronicles are only copies of old documents and may be false.

The predominant Y - DNA of Russians and Poles is the same. This is R1a1a. About 50% of both nations.

Yes, we are Slavs, Sarmatians, Scythians, Cimerians, Antes with an admixture of Turkic peoples from the Great Steppe.
Poles have a little more Western European blood; we have more Finnish and Scandinavian blood.

 

[Nord Stream 2]

What?

Russian is great, it's a language that has so much history, it represents the Slavic ethnicity but also has lots of similarities with other languages. There are very funny facts about the meanings of certain russian words, i've the privilege to know just a few of them.

The one that always keep in my mind is the origin of the word "немцы" which are the germans, and that is completely different from the russian word for Germany which is "Германия".

From what i've been told, the origin comes from 17th century: Peter the Great who wanted to evolve Russia as a country bringing it closer to European countries (after living in Netherlands and learning there about shipbuilding) and he very much invited european families to live in Moscow to bring that european culture.

Apparently among those families, the germans never quite socialized with the russians, they were always mute and the russian word for mute is "немой"
and that's why they are "немцы".

For me more than those trivia also the sound often determine my interest in studying a language: for instance i tried to study the german language and i dropped a month after, because i didn't like how it sounds.

Sorry for the OT.

You are basically right.

I do not know how the Poles called the Germans in the 8th century. It is strange that someone else remembers)))))

The word "Немцы" really appeared before Peter 1. But it was hardly used. Under Peter 1, this word was often used to refer to all Western Europeans, in the middle of the 19th century it was attached only to the Germans.

 

[Nord Stream 2]

I honestly don't know what's worse, or the unconscious desire of all the medvedeboys that Trusova is sick, falls into multiple quads and loses; or the utopia of believing that Tutberidze will tell Trusova to lose so that Medvedeva wins ... Seriously, they mature ... it is sad to read fan wishes asking that a 15-year-old girl be sick so that her idol clings to the only chance to win. Finally, don't be ridiculous, Trusova with triples win to Medvedeva, Trusova without quads makes 160 points, Medvedava does not even reach 150 whit skate clean... Then they are complaining about why they are considered the most toxic skating fans

Yes, it was just a joke. Really no one understood?

Sasha can take away all his quads and, for fidelity, transfer the third combo to the second part. It'll be enough. She will win anyway.

There are no rivals for her on Rostelecom.

 

[nussnacker]

She was beaming when Tursynbaeva won her silver at 2019 Worlds too. Most happy I had seen her in a very long time.

She was just as happy for Alina, she just couldn’t be in the k&c, because she had to put Elizabet on ice.
Seriously, the person that people like to make fun of, is a real actual human being.
She had a very rough time for the last couple of years, when her mother was slowly fading away due to cancer and then died, I cannot imagine her “beaming with happiness” every single time, because what was happening probably made it hard to do.
She wrote that lengthy letter, saying that only at worlds she felt like she closed that chapter in her life where she felt like she couldn’t be happy for any of the wins of her students, because of what was happening behind the scenes, and that was a massive release of emotions she’s been hiding for a long time.
People are so picky about her way of doing anything, yet, you never know what might be happening to the person in their real life.

 

[Nord Stream 2]

Have you all seen how Sonya Akatieva jumped 4T at the opening of Rostelecom? https://vk.com/club_akatyeva_offici...6243780/53bf88665a9c7119e9/pl_wall_-163754435

Whole opening ceremony https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L8t_z9bZoWQ I honestly admit that I did not like it.

 

[Edwin]

Have you all seen how Sonya Akatieva jumped 4T at the opening of Rostelecom? https://vk.com/club_akatyeva_offici...6243780/53bf88665a9c7119e9/pl_wall_-163754435

Whole opening ceremony https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L8t_z9bZoWQ

Hopefully the Khrustalniy Kids will perform again in the Gala Exhibition.

 

[silveruskate]

She was just as happy for Alina, she just couldn’t be in the k&c, because she had to put Elizabet on ice.

Who said she wasn't as happy for Alina? Your insecurity is showing.

 

[nussnacker]

Clarification for some users:
The premise made it sound like she was solely happy for Elizabet, which I disagreed with the rest of your negativity may stay with you

 

[silveruskate]

For anyone interested this is a cool comparison of Zhenya's jumps (only from one competition each season but fun to see):

https://twitter.com/sakuraskating/status/1195341327140999173