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One of the jumps would be Zayaked, and even if it wasn’t Liza can’t do 3A-3T (and neither 3Lz-3T during this season)
2019-20 Russian Ladies' Figure Skating
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One of the jumps would be Zayaked, and even if it wasn’t Liza can’t do 3A-3T (and neither 3Lz-3T during this season)
You can absolutely do two quads and two triple axels, just change one of the two 3Ts.
4T-3T
4T
3A-2A seq (or 3A-2T)
3A
3Ltz-eu-3S
3F
3R
I'm expecting one quad and one 3a in the long, and maybe not even a 3-3.
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Trusova risking it again, and Kostornaya has more Axels than Tuktamysheva
The (planned) content of all the participants in the Russian Figure Skating Championship became known.
The short program will be contested at the Platinum Arena in Krasnoyarsk on December 27, and the free program on the 28th.
Note that almost all the students of Eteri Tutberidze repeat the content they performed in the Grand Prix finals. Only Aleksandra Trusova complicated her short program - she adds a Rittberger to the triple Lutz in cascade instead of a Toeloop.
Yelizaveta Tuktamysheva not only didn't declare a quadruple Toeloop, but also removed one triple Axel compared to the Chinese Grand Prix. The content of Yevgeniya Medvyedeva repeats what she performed at the Russian Grand Prix.
Yelizaveta Tuktamysheva
Short program
Triple Axel - Triple Flip + Triple Toeloop - Triple Lutz
Free program
Triple Axel + double Toeloop - triple Toeloop - triple Lutz - triple Flip - double Axel + triple Toeloop + double Toeloop - triple Lutz + double Axel - triple Rittberger
Aleksandra Trusova
Short program
Triple Axel - Triple Flip - Triple Lutz + Triple Rittberger
Free program
Fourth Flip - quadruple Salchow - quadruple Lutz - double Axel + triple Toeloop - quadruple Toeloop + Euler + triple Salchow - quadruple Toeloop - triple Lutz + triple Toeloop
Yevgeniya Medvyedeva
Short program
Triple Flip + triple Toeloop - double Axel - triple Rittberger
Free program
Triple Lutz - Triple Salchow + Triple Rittberger - Triple Flip - Double Axel - Double Axel + Triple Toeloop + Double Toeloop - Triple Flip + Double Toeloop - Triple Rittberger
Alyona Kostornaya
Short program
Triple Axel - Triple Lutz - Triple Flip + Triple Toeloop
Free program
Triple Axel + double Toeloop - triple Axel - double Axel - triple Rittberger - triple Flip + triple Toeloop - triple Flip + Euler+ triple Salchow - triple Lutz
Anna Shcherbakova
Short program
Double Axel - Triple Flip - Triple Lutz + Triple Rittberger
Free program
Quadruple Lutz + triple Toeloop - quadruple Flip - double Axel - quadruple Lutz - triple Lutz + triple Rittberger - triple Flip + Euler + triple Salchow - triple Lutz
The (planned) content of other participants in the Russian championship can be viewed here: https://www.instagram.com/p/B6fXJ-OpVq3 and https://www.instagram.com/p/B6fXTrHpMnG/
Analysis in pictures and comments on the planned content here: https://sport24.ru/news/other/2019-...-kostornaya-trusova-shcherbakova-tuktamysheva
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From: https://www.sport-express.ru/figure...a-tuktamysheva-medvedeva-scherbakova-1625932/
The (planned) content of all the participants in the Russian Figure Skating Championship became known.
The short program will be contested at the Platinum Arena in Krasnoyarsk on December 27, and the free program on the 28th.
Note that almost all the students of Eteri Tutberidze repeat the content they performed in the Grand Prix finals. Only Aleksandra Trusova complicated her short program - she adds a Rittberger to the triple Lutz in cascade instead of a Toeloop.
Yelizaveta Tuktamysheva not only didn't declare a quadruple Toeloop, but also removed one triple Axel compared to the Chinese Grand Prix. The content of Yevgeniya Medvyedeva repeats what she performed at the Russian Grand Prix.
Yelizaveta Tuktamysheva
Short program
Triple Axel - Triple Flip + Triple Toeloop - Triple Lutz
Free program
Triple Axel + double Toeloop - triple Toeloop - triple Lutz - triple Flip - double Axel + triple Toeloop + double Toeloop - triple Lutz + double Axel - triple Rittberger
Aleksandra Trusova
Short program
Triple Axel - Triple Flip - Triple Lutz + Triple Rittberger
Free program
Fourth Flip - quadruple Salchow - quadruple Lutz - double Axel + triple Toeloop - quadruple Toeloop + Euler + triple Salchow - quadruple Toeloop - triple Lutz + triple Toeloop
Yevgeniya Medvyedeva
Short program
Triple Flip + triple Toeloop - double Axel - triple Rittberger
Free program
Triple Lutz - Triple Salchow + Triple Rittberger - Triple Flip - Double Axel - Double Axel + Triple Toeloop + Double Toeloop - Triple Flip + Double Toeloop - Triple Rittberger
Alyona Kostornaya
Short program
Triple Axel - Triple Lutz - Triple Flip + Triple Toeloop
Free program
Triple Axel + double Toeloop - triple Axel - double Axel - triple Rittberger - triple Flip + triple Toeloop - triple Flip + Euler+ triple Salchow - triple Lutz
Anna Shcherbakova
Short program
Double Axel - Triple Flip - Triple Lutz + Triple Rittberger
Free program
Quadruple Lutz + triple Toeloop - quadruple Flip - double Axel - quadruple Lutz - triple Lutz + triple Rittberger - triple Flip + Euler + triple Salchow - triple Lutz
The (planned) content of other participants in the Russian championship can be viewed here: https://www.instagram.com/p/B6fXJ-OpVq3 and https://www.instagram.com/p/B6fXTrHpMnG/
Analysis in pictures and comments on the planned content here: https://sport24.ru/news/other/2019-...-kostornaya-trusova-shcherbakova-tuktamysheva
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From: https://www.sport-express.ru/figure...a-tuktamysheva-medvedeva-scherbakova-1625932/
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I don’t see how what you said contradicts what I said.
Liza can’t do 2x 4t, 3A AND 3T, that was my point.
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- Jan 5, 2019
Aleksey Mishin: “There are pros and cons in every system. But Tutberidze - is the leader of our figure skating - both athletically and mentally ”
Merited trainer of Russia Alexey Mishin spoke about the relationship between different coaching groups.
“You asked a very interesting question regarding the relationship of various coaching groups. Figure skating and its teams are divided into several groups. Some groups are close and friendly, some compete and contest, they have a neutral relationship, and the relations of some groups of coaches are somewhat tense.
How do I feel about the outstanding results that Eteri Georgiyevna Tutberidze shows? I call them outstanding because this is the term that matches the level of skill that her girls demonstrate.
If we talk about the fact that they are small, and when they grow up and stop jumping, they will become adolescents, there will be more feminine forms ... When I had students - like 4-5 men who could compete and defeat the other in World Championships - then I could talk about it.
And now Eteri Tutberidze is the most striking figure in the sky of our figure skating, so talking about the advantages of mine or hers (it makes no sense). Each system has its own advantages, and disadvantages.
By the demonstrating of results that her girls now show, she is the current leader of domestic figure skating - both athletically and mentally, ”
Mishin said in an interview with the YouTube channel of the 'Sport Day after Day' publication.
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From: https://www.sports.ru/figure-skating/1081693732.html
Merited trainer of Russia Alexey Mishin spoke about the relationship between different coaching groups.
“You asked a very interesting question regarding the relationship of various coaching groups. Figure skating and its teams are divided into several groups. Some groups are close and friendly, some compete and contest, they have a neutral relationship, and the relations of some groups of coaches are somewhat tense.
How do I feel about the outstanding results that Eteri Georgiyevna Tutberidze shows? I call them outstanding because this is the term that matches the level of skill that her girls demonstrate.
If we talk about the fact that they are small, and when they grow up and stop jumping, they will become adolescents, there will be more feminine forms ... When I had students - like 4-5 men who could compete and defeat the other in World Championships - then I could talk about it.
And now Eteri Tutberidze is the most striking figure in the sky of our figure skating, so talking about the advantages of mine or hers (it makes no sense). Each system has its own advantages, and disadvantages.
By the demonstrating of results that her girls now show, she is the current leader of domestic figure skating - both athletically and mentally, ”
Mishin said in an interview with the YouTube channel of the 'Sport Day after Day' publication.
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From: https://www.sports.ru/figure-skating/1081693732.html
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- Jan 5, 2019
More background reading in case you get bored or tired with anticipation.
“I hope Alina will return”: Anna Pogorilaya about the pause in Zagitova’s career, scandals in figure skating and age limits
https://russian.rt.com/sport/article/700449-pogorilaya-zagitova-kommentarii
"I pity the Russian skaters - they have no hope for a healthy future." Finnish coaches urge to raise the age limit in women's skating
Finnish figure skating coaches have called on the International Skating Union (ISU) to raise the age limit for women’s skating to at least 17 years old.
Now skaters can compete in senior competitions from the age of 15.
“Raising the age limit is important from a psychological point of view. Girls' bodies change with age. Even at 16 it’s already difficult to do the elements that you performed before.
I hope ISU cares about the health of the skaters. I feel sorry for the Russian girls - they have no hope for a healthy future. Russians even have seven-year-old children plowing on ice for five hours a day, ”said Sirrko Kaipio, trainer of Emmy Peltonen.
“There is live evidence that, due to body changes and growing up, the skaters cannot make the elements that they used to do. There are many examples when skaters too young reached the top, and then disappeared. Most often, they left the sport due to injuries, problems with nutrition and motivation.
I also heard that Russian coaches use some forbidden methods, but I will not speculate on this, ” said Minna Järvinen, trainer of Jenny Saarinen.
https://yle.fi/urheilu/3-11111926
Yagudin's 'descriptions':
Tarasova = Chinese Wall
Zagitova = Peach
Hanyu = Yellow stuffed bear
Medvyedeva = Strength
https://twitter.com/olympicchannel/status/1209732617291083776 with lots of critical reactions to his personality.
“I hope Alina will return”: Anna Pogorilaya about the pause in Zagitova’s career, scandals in figure skating and age limits
https://russian.rt.com/sport/article/700449-pogorilaya-zagitova-kommentarii
"I pity the Russian skaters - they have no hope for a healthy future." Finnish coaches urge to raise the age limit in women's skating
Finnish figure skating coaches have called on the International Skating Union (ISU) to raise the age limit for women’s skating to at least 17 years old.
Now skaters can compete in senior competitions from the age of 15.
“Raising the age limit is important from a psychological point of view. Girls' bodies change with age. Even at 16 it’s already difficult to do the elements that you performed before.
I hope ISU cares about the health of the skaters. I feel sorry for the Russian girls - they have no hope for a healthy future. Russians even have seven-year-old children plowing on ice for five hours a day, ”said Sirrko Kaipio, trainer of Emmy Peltonen.
“There is live evidence that, due to body changes and growing up, the skaters cannot make the elements that they used to do. There are many examples when skaters too young reached the top, and then disappeared. Most often, they left the sport due to injuries, problems with nutrition and motivation.
I also heard that Russian coaches use some forbidden methods, but I will not speculate on this, ” said Minna Järvinen, trainer of Jenny Saarinen.
https://yle.fi/urheilu/3-11111926
Yagudin's 'descriptions':
Tarasova = Chinese Wall
Zagitova = Peach
Hanyu = Yellow stuffed bear
Medvyedeva = Strength
https://twitter.com/olympicchannel/status/1209732617291083776 with lots of critical reactions to his personality.
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- Feb 27, 2014
What's this about a Gala in March for the national team? Does that mean the reserves on the national team too?
Five quads for sasha? She could fall twice and still win.
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- Apr 8, 2018
No I don't think so, if Sasha falls twice Aliona or Anya are gonna slip through. We saw it at GPF and I have a feeling that the judges are willing to not prop her if she falls twice
Sasha failed three times in GPF. Would she land that damn 3Ax, and no chance for the rest.
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- Oct 20, 2017
Does anyone have the starting order/results page? I can't find it
https://www.fsrussia.ru/results/1819/rusnat1819_ENG/index.htm
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- Oct 20, 2017
It's last year's page, isn't it?
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- Nov 24, 2018
I would not say that, with the fall in the short she still had a 15 point difference to alyona who was in first place . I do not think she would have gotten 15 points for a landed 3a
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Russian Nationals SP order:
1 Trusova
2 Sakhanovich
3 Shcherbakova
4 Tukhtamisheva
5 Gulyakova
6 Kostornaya
7 Shulskaya
8 Talalaikina
9 Samodurova
10 Gubanova
11 Nugumanova
12 Gracheva
13 Sinitsina
14 Tsibinova
15 Frolova
16 Konstantinova
17 Medvedeva
1 Trusova
2 Sakhanovich
3 Shcherbakova
4 Tukhtamisheva
5 Gulyakova
6 Kostornaya
7 Shulskaya
8 Talalaikina
9 Samodurova
10 Gubanova
11 Nugumanova
12 Gracheva
13 Sinitsina
14 Tsibinova
15 Frolova
16 Konstantinova
17 Medvedeva
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- Oct 20, 2017
Ah yes, I found it on another forum. They'll probably put one tomorrow.
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- Mar 21, 2018
From what I’ve read on here, I am to understand that Tuktamysheva has to get at least a Silver to guarantee herself a spot or the aforementioned backflips to leave her off the World’s team - in the form of a preordained....I apologize, I mean rigged competition entitled the Russian Cup or a “council” will occur. Got it. At least that was made clear beforehand. I won’t get my hopes up.
She better be trolling with that mess. I absolutely refuse to believe that’s her planned layout. That 3T is a typo. It’s supposed to be a 4T. The 3Lz+2A is also a mistake. I’m under the impression that she’s fired up and on a mission to prove a point. That layout is giving up and I hope I don’t see that from her.
She better be trolling with that mess. I absolutely refuse to believe that’s her planned layout. That 3T is a typo. It’s supposed to be a 4T. The 3Lz+2A is also a mistake. I’m under the impression that she’s fired up and on a mission to prove a point. That layout is giving up and I hope I don’t see that from her.
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- Jan 5, 2019
Start lists, lists of specialists and judges, entrants and score sheets are up: https://www.fsrussia.ru/results/1920/rusnat1920/ENG/index.htm
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- Jan 10, 2014
The difference between Aliona and Sasha at GPF was more than 14 points. A 3A in SP wouldn't have been enough. The costliest mistake was the 2S. I think had she gone perfectly clean for LP she would have beaten Aliona (even with the 3A fall at SP), but it means two less mistakes.
Imo the margin Sasha has against Clean Aliona or Clean Anna is only one big mistake (a crucial one, like a doubling or a fall with <) and probably a minor mistake(a step out or a
< with no fall?).
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Are Anna P., Maria and Polina in the same show as Alina or is it a different one?
