2019-20 Russian Ladies' Figure Skating

[jennapowers]

Predicting it right here. Anna Shcherbakova 2x Russian National Champion. Guys it can be done, if she lands her 3 quads, which we all know she can, I mean she thinks so herself, then she is guaranteed to beat Alena. Who knows what Sasha will do, but I really do think it could be Anna v Sasha tomorrow in the free.

 

[BabySloth]

I think Aliona will win tomorrow. Yes her content is easier but she gets enormous GOEs and PCS. She has 9 points on Anna and 13 points on Sasha from the Short.

She's the most likely to skate clean out of the 3. To be honest, I don't see Anna or Sasha skating their planned layout completely clean yet.

 

[Mishaminion]

Predicting it right here. Anna Shcherbakova 2x Russian National Champion. Guys it can be done, if she lands her 3 quads, which we all know she can, I mean she thinks so herself, then she is guaranteed to beat Alena. Who knows what Sasha will do, but I really do think it could be Anna v Sasha tomorrow in the free.

It's Anna vs Alyona vs Sasha

Then there's Liza, I doubt she will medal but if she lands her quad and others falter...who knows!

 

[taylor1]

Realist about what? She's only about 3 points higher than her international best with a performance that was even more perfect

I saw very little difference between this performance and any of her others this year. And I don't think she should get as high a score when she has no interpretation of the music

 

[Edwin]

She's a powerful young skater! Skates a little slow but she really springs up into those jumps.

Her music is slow, gentle and calm for a large part, like that of many of her rink mates, and she dances nicely.

Now, where is that list of Junior Nationals and Cup contestants, for Kisel must be on it, preparing all this ultra-si to compete with Akat'yeva, Samodelkina etc.

Veronika Zhilina also competed her SP today: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hu9Pdv2Qe3E

Petrosyan is scheduled to compete SP tomorrow in the "Blue Bird" rink.

 

[Mishaminion]

I saw very little difference between this performance and any of her others this year. And I don't think she should get as high a score when she has no interpretation of the music

Lol! No interpretation?

Okay...no point arguing with you when you say things like that. Obviously you were watching the wrong competition...

 

[macy]

I saw very little difference between this performance and any of her others this year. And I don't think she should get as high a score when she has no interpretation of the music

she has struggled this season with being late on the music and the timing of fitting the 3A in the program vs a quicker, easier 2A. her 3A is looking better and better every competition, this is by far the most comfortable and effortless one she's done in competition yet. everything was done on time to the music comparable to last year. not going to even bother arguing your last sentence. this was a noticeably better SP to me.

 

[drivingmissdaisy]

It's funny how some claim that Aliona is favored by her coaches and federation, and that Anna or Sasha are being pushed aside. I mean, they're all of the same age and come from the same coach, so it would be rational to think that judges just give them scores that they think the girls deserve. And Aliona excels in all parts of skating, the scores given to her are very logical when you compare them to what her teammates got.

What makes me happy to see is that the three are not clones of each other, but rather are able to showcase each of their strengths such that any of them could win if they put it all together. If I saw them for the first time, I wouldn't even think they shared the same coaching team. For me, that shows the coaches are focused on them equally and not playing favorites.

 

[Fluture]

And I don't think she should get as high a score when she has no interpretation of the music

Excuse me?

Also, there WAS a very visible difference between her GPF and Nationals skate. I seriously don‘t get some of you here. If Anna lands her quads tomorrow, she‘ll win. Same for Sasha. What‘s the problem?

 

[colormyworld240]

I'm ok with all the scores except for Anna's. Everyone got a few points boost from GPF, but it seems like she didn't get as big of one. I really think her PCS could be the same as Alena's (for nationals scoring) with their differences in SS and IN; her only weak point is skating skills relative to Sasha and Alena, but she excels way beyond for the other areas. Anna was only ranked 3rd in PCS when I really think she has the best PE/IN - enough to make up for SS and more. I'm surprised the difference in PCS between her and Alena is bigger than between her and Sasha, I don't agree with that. And I thought her combo was the best she's ever done it here, too. It's a bit sad that she needs 3 clean quads to win, 2 I can understand. And I can understand Sasha needing 3 or 4, but Anna has the artistry in spades compared to Sasha's technical prowess.

 

[colormyworld240]

Excuse me?

Also, there WAS a very visible difference between her GPF and Nationals skate. I seriously don‘t get some of you here. If Anna lands her quads tomorrow, she‘ll win. Same for Sasha. What‘s the problem?

It's an opinion. The same one I have seen you post of others skaters when you don't agree with their PCS. People aren't rolling their eyes and facepalming every time you say that about another skater. You can have a constructive debate over scores you don't agree with, without rudely disregarding another's POV.

 

[dante]

Eteri trolling the wiretapping. https://youtu.be/HShJwyvMReQ?t=2591

 

[drivingmissdaisy]

It's a bit sad that she needs 3 clean quads to win, 2 I can understand. And I can understand Sasha needing 3 or 4, but Anna has the artistry in spades compared to Sasha's technical prowess.

It's important to note that Alena also does three 3As and the other two none, which obviously isn't as difficult as doing the hardest quads but still earns a substantial amount of points.

 

[Fluture]

It's an opinion. The same one I have seen you post of others skaters when you don't agree with their PCS. People aren't rolling their eyes and facepalming every time you say that about another skater. You can have a constructive debate over scores you don't agree with, without rudely disregarding another's POV.

It sure is an opinion but it‘s possible to voice it differently. I believe Sasha for example isn‘t a very good PCS skater yet but I try to back that up with arguments and be respectful to her nonetheless. Bluntly going around saying someone “has no interpretation of the music“ is not that and not the basis for a constructive discussion, imo. If I really have said that at one point, I would like to apologize. I do believe that I‘ve not, however.

 

[colormyworld240]

It's important to note that Alena also does three 3As and the other two none, which obviously isn't as difficult as doing the hardest quads but still earns a substantial amount of points.

Yeah I considered this, but the point difference between 2x 4Lzs and 4F vs 3x 3As is quite substantial, and I think it's more substantial than the SS difference. As for GOEs, I used to think Anna's jumps were all beautiful air position with no height and distance, but really her jumps are quite big now (the quads are huge, as big as Sasha's). I think Anna has decently sized jumps with a few huge ones and she edges her compatriots out for having the best air position (so overall maybe slightly less GOE on some jumps than Alena/Sasha but not a substantial one).

Anna's spins used to be so wonky but I actually think they've improved a lot this season and they're centred. Last season, I thought Anna only had PE/IN and was far weaker in jumps and spins to Alena and Sasha, but with her improvements this season I think the gap should be smaller.

 

[Resa]

When does the FS start tomorrow? at 19:00? Is that correct?

 

[theharleyquinn]

I'm ok with all the scores except for Anna's. Everyone got a few points boost from GPF, but it seems like she didn't get as big of one. I really think her PCS could be the same as Alena's (for nationals scoring) with their differences in SS and IN; her only weak point is skating skills relative to Sasha and Alena, but she excels way beyond for the other areas. Anna was only ranked 3rd in PCS when I really think she has the best PE/IN - enough to make up for SS and more. I'm surprised the difference in PCS between her and Alena is bigger than between her and Sasha, I don't agree with that. And I thought her combo was the best she's ever done it here, too. It's a bit sad that she needs 3 clean quads to win, 2 I can understand. And I can understand Sasha needing 3 or 4, but Anna has the artistry in spades compared to Sasha's technical prowess.

I think this is partly a testament to how well Anna skated in the SP at GPF. Her skate here was pretty close to that, and both were strong. Sasha and Aliona were much better here than at GPF.

 

[Edwin]

Eteri trolling the wiretapping. https://youtu.be/HShJwyvMReQ?t=2591

Hidden microphone she discovered? I am fairly certain they know their lips will be read if they speak privately between themselves, and therefore remain mostly stone faced and silent.

But is was great to see the banners behind them.

Tarasova's commentary has been analysed, and she didn't mention any of Tutberidze's staff nor her skaters by name. Referring as 'them' and 'they' etc: https://www.sports.ru/tribuna/blogs/figureice/2680392.html

Wounded pride or on orders from 1TV? She also didn't mention Orser, but lauded Mishin.

I can imagine her probably still thinking "go to hell, the lot of you" for impairing her 'right to speak freely to the beloved nation', LOL.

 

[Alex65]

I'm ok with all the scores except for Anna's. Everyone got a few points boost from GPF, but it seems like she didn't get as big of one. I really think her PCS could be the same as Alena's (for nationals scoring) with their differences in SS and IN; her only weak point is skating skills relative to Sasha and Alena, but she excels way beyond for the other areas. Anna was only ranked 3rd in PCS when I really think she has the best PE/IN - enough to make up for SS and more. I'm surprised the difference in PCS between her and Alena is bigger than between her and Sasha, I don't agree with that. And I thought her combo was the best she's ever done it here, too. It's a bit sad that she needs 3 clean quads to win, 2 I can understand. And I can understand Sasha needing 3 or 4, but Anna has the artistry in spades compared to Sasha's technical prowess.

It's funny that you still care about the PCS categories. Look at the protocols - there is no separation at all, not a single judge judges the PCS category. This is a 6.0 system, nothing has changed for the better. Moreover, judges do not even judge GOE as an objective assessment. All efforts to explain this are in vain.

 

[LenaRadiFan]

Anna always seems to be in the shadows. But for someone with such a great high scoring routine and ballerina like qualities that makes no sense.

I just hope everyone is excited about what's going on at this Nationals for the ladies even without Alina the reigning Olympic and World Champion this is a fantastic and fascinating event.

I always have a feeling being "overshadowed" only plays into her favor though, she doesn't have the crazy pressure Sasha and Aliona are under and can basically just go out and perform. She never seems nervous.

Anya is a favorite of mine and she is very near and dear to my heart, her and Aliona are head to head and I cannot decide who I want to win nationals more