Khromykh was the best I've ever seen her. AND, skaters do get rewarded for attempting quads. (In PCS as well as the tech mark, even if no one admits it ) Frolova-was packaged to look 20 as opposed to 14. Dark dress with long skirt, old maid hair style. And in my opinion, the program doesn't do her any favors.
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Khromykh was the best I've ever seen her. AND, skaters do get rewarded for attempting quads. (In PCS as well as the tech mark, even if no one admits it ) Frolova-was packaged to look 20 as opposed to 14. Dark dress with long skirt, old maid hair style. And in my opinion, the program doesn't do her any favors.
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you're not a judge, don't ever forget that.
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Frolova seems to be happy in her new rink, but like you, I agree on the old fashioned programs. Perhaps no time and money to get a completely new program mid season?
Anna'll remain on the top junior selection most likely, so hopefully come next season we'll see something state-of-the-art from her. She needs development if she wants to break into the absolute top of Russia. At her 190-200 level there is just so much competition.
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I don't mind when someone prefers a some skater. It's normal. But personally "assign places on the podium and medals" as we say - it always looks very unpleasant for me. As for me this is simply disrespectful to athletes, judges, and other spectators. I am always surprised by the arrogance of such people.Yes that is just my opinion, you can disagree with that and that's okay.
I love Sinitsyna, but she was tense and tight and it showed. I felt she was skating too slowly and carefully, and in a competition where 12 year olds were skating with wild abandon and speed? The difference was glaring for me. Of course it is much easier to be an Alina Gorbecheva with nothing at stake, than Ksenia, where everything is at stake. Kromykh has never been one of my favorites, but she surprised me. Also, quite simply, she attempted the quad, landed one on warmup and she is being rewarded for that.
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As for Maya Khromykh, now she has been selected for delegation to the Junior World Championships, on her rests the responsibility to prove that the faith in her is not in vain. Competitive grit and fighting spirit is more important than skills in such an important event, and here I think Khromykh has a slight edge over Sinitsyna, who I sometimes think has a slight diva attitude.
Nevertheless, I wish for Sinitsyna and #TeamPanova to sort their issues out and keep themselves in the running. Programs like 'Tomasina and the Sea' come only about once every few years and are a real advertisement for figure skating as an artistic coordination sport.
I'm surprised you're a fan of this sport then, considering it has always been part of figure skating discussion, debating scores and podiums. It's been like that for decades, nothing new and i don't recommend watching old commentaries for figure skating as people used to criticize even more openly and harshly, in the pre-internet era.
What is very important to remember is that judges are human beings, they can make mistakes, and often subjectivity comes to play when deciding the placements, especially at events like this one where most skaters were closer than what those scores may tell you. Only 4-5 skaters out of 18 had what we can refer to as a bad skate with multiple mistakes.
In regards to the quote you singled out, it's more about patterns you can consistently recognize in various editions of Nationals, and that's something you can notice even in US, Canada, Korea, Japan too sometimes... for various reasons there are coaching groups that are the favourite ones in that specific country and tend to get higher scores on average, so even the weaker skater of that group benefits from that boost. I absolutely don't think saying such things is arrogant or offensive as i truly believe athletes are fully aware of those situations.
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'Wild abandon" accurately described some of the lesser knowns to completely unknowns here in the national championships. They were just awesome, diamonds in the rough. None of them were reckless though, these young girls kept their cool, competed measuredly with full attention, knowing they had to make a good impression on the FFKKR specialists and presidium in order to advance.
I am really interested in the workings and dynamics of #TeamPanova, for they also have a few jewels in their dwindling stock. That strange 'bad dog' pat from Panova at Youth Olympics still puzzles me. Will Sinitsyna have been scolded at yesterday, will she herself have thrown a tantrum, neither of them really helping the other to work out any issues there might be or not?
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Tbh, I'm really surprised by these conversations. It seems that people do not watch the competition and argue on the forum only because of "belonging to the camp."
How can you call yourself fans of figure skating if you don't see the obvious fact - Usacheva, Khromykh have improved significantly since the beginning of the season, especially Maiia. And Ksenia, at best, has not improved (in my opinion, she has become a little worse).
As for me Ksenia only once skate her FP really good - at the test skate (use vpn if you don't see). Yes it hasn't been perfectly polished yet, but still - look, just example, the first musical theme changes and Ksenia changes, her movements have become more rapid to match the music (while maintaining its smoothness, which is amazing and delightful). On national she continues to skate at the same slow pace. When she skate like that to the first, slow, mesmerizing, fuss-free music theme, it was appropriate. And this first third of FS was amazing, and we have all switches on the mode of "Oh, our magic Sinitsyna" (and we don't even notice at first that she takes a just liiittle bit longer to prepare for 3Lo than we would like, or that her 2A is far from as impressive as Dasha's). But then the veil falls from the eyes (at least for some of us). I'm not saying that Ksenia was bad - she showed off-limits skating for most non-Russian juniors. But it was not at all as "magical" as some seem to claim here.
I will say directly - I can't help noticing that Ksenia has not improved at all during the season, and even seems to me to have deteriorated a little (at least the fact that she lost her 3Lz-3Lo is a fact). What happened at the national is not an accident and Maiia is without a doubt earned their trip to the JWC. I hope the Federation will be wise and not play political games.
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For those of you that have missed the first four skating runs of girls FS from Junior Russian Nationals, it seems Channel One's youtube isn't geo blocked: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xUUe1BDWQfGs , it does have the explosive Alisa Gorbachyova leading off in her 'Angels and Devils' routine, Nika Ryabnina, Kamila Sultanmagomedova, Nikol Vaytkus that were omitted from the stream with Ted because of some technical problem.
I really hope there will be individual routines uploaded later with better bitrate though, but this whole event is one for the archives, to keep and cherish.
I really hope there will be individual routines uploaded later with better bitrate though, but this whole event is one for the archives, to keep and cherish.
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Here it says final composition of the Junior Worlds participants will be made by the FFKKR presidium and coaching council: https://www.fsrussia.ru/news/4906-k...ebryanyj-prizer-darya-usacheva-bronzovyj.html
Meaning those in contention will have to compete in the Russian Cup, February 18-22 for final assessment and selection? Start lists to that event still aren't available.
FFKKR usually published a complete 'bound' protocol for the archives later.
Meaning those in contention will have to compete in the Russian Cup, February 18-22 for final assessment and selection? Start lists to that event still aren't available.
FFKKR usually published a complete 'bound' protocol for the archives later.
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Sampdelkina was throwing plushies on ice to Kamila, Ksenia and her rinkmate Liza Berestovskaya. Considering she was competing against them, I found it to be so sweet. A wholesome moment from this competition!
Adelia‘s Charisma is off the chart. What a performer!
And Akatyeva‘s SS are so good, I was so impressed by her this time.
I find both Ksenia and Maiia to be deserving to go. Ksenia has been kind of on a downward trajectory recently, but it can change by worlds, and she’s got a body of work. She’s got nice SS, but something was off with her Lo and Lz-T recently. Aside from that, she’s one of the top Juniors in the world right now.
Maiia has really improved, tremendously, quad aside. Her jumps had more pop, and she seemed more confident and very fast too.
Would be happy with whatever decision is made.
A wholesome moment from this competition!Adelia‘s Charisma is off the chart. What a performer!
And Akatyeva‘s SS are so good, I was so impressed by her this time.
I find both Ksenia and Maiia to be deserving to go. Ksenia has been kind of on a downward trajectory recently, but it can change by worlds, and she’s got a body of work. She’s got nice SS, but something was off with her Lo and Lz-T recently. Aside from that, she’s one of the top Juniors in the world right now.
Maiia has really improved, tremendously, quad aside. Her jumps had more pop, and she seemed more confident and very fast too.
Would be happy with whatever decision is made.
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Let's just say I'm not super-upset if they send Ksenia. Just... I don't know, it's at the level of general impressions... it feels like Ksenia has lack of... motivation, inner energy?.. i dunno. This was especially noticeable against the background of Maiia and Dasha, who were just hungry for the result.
I do not want a repeat of the last championship, when our bronze (all medals for ladies must be Russian by definition!
) went in a strange direction due to the fact that Ksenia switch into the current_Ksenia_mode.I'm concerned about the "Alysa Liu factor". Yes, I want our girls to occupy the entire podium. This is difficult, but possible. Yes, I understand with my mind that it is more reliable to give a ticket to Ksenia - most likely she will get her ~197-202. But I'm not sure that's enough to beat Alysa. And most importantly, I do not like either her trend or her general attitude (Yes, I will remember that tantrum in K&С for a long time - such things do not inspire confidence).
But on the other hand, and with Maiia, not everything is clear - too little information, only one competition in the second half of the season, you can only hope that it was not a happy fluctuation.
You know there is a wonderful principle that has a deep philosophical foundation - "In a rationally unclear situation, you should choose the most ethical action". In application to this situation this means relying on results of the competition and give the winner (Maiia vs Ksyusha) a ticket.
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Honestly as long as Kseniia gets two GP spots I don't care if she goes to Junior Worlds. I just need her to get two GP spots. Maiia can have this chance, since yeah she's the underdog whatever whatever, and you know what, I think Kseniia deserves a break. Both a break onto the Junior Worlds scene, but also a break in general. Giving her the latter is fine, since now she can prepare for test skates next season and show her very best in an attempt to break onto the senior scene.
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So, if I understand correctly, there’s gonna be another Cup competition near the end of this month, and some of the juniors will compete there (even Kamila who is a lock for JW) and only then will the JW team be announced?
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Dar'ya Usachyova in her interview with Olga Yermolina she had it difficult finding motivation last year. Could it be 'minor medal' or even 'off the podium' syndrome? Sort of having this feeling of unfulfillment, inadequacy, when you are a perfectionist?
Kseniya being the top of her rink still not making a breakthrough, it must be frustrating. But with her puberty in full motion now, she needs to hold on and not regress, and that takes a lot of internal and external motivation. Results as a reward for your efforts and sacrifices will make all the hardships worthwhile. And of course a good home situation is needed, with understanding and caring parents.
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Even though Dasha is my favorite junior, when everybody mentions that Kseniia failed to get to the podium at JGPF, I kind of feel like she should've. Like if Dasha was clean, I'd accept the reality, but Dasha fell back into her second-half mistake habit then. Kseniia and Haein were both very clean, and both could've been up there instead. So, Kseniia didn't bomb at JGPF, she was just crazy underscored.
