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2019-20 Russian Ladies' Figure Skating

So she used to flutz, but not anymore. Good for her. Also - her prerotation is not excessive. Now she has outside edge even though it is not deep outside.

Sorry, but that's not who I am talking about. I would have mentioned her name because she certainly is topical to this thread.
 
People. I am simply amazed at your persistent desire to explain something to this person, who obviously has the most superficial idea of the subject of conversation, but whose mind is filled with hatred and stereotypes based on propaganda of KK and the like. Cast pearls before swine.
 
Is there any sort of forum that deals with rhythmic gymnastics? With the 2020 Olympics coming soon I’d like to know more about Dina and Arina Averina (I did see an interview where they said “If we weren’t doing gymnastics we’d be doing figure skating!”) and if they’re definitely 2 of the 3 Russians at the Games.

There are a few tumblr sites posting about rhythmic gymnastics, but I dont know about a forum like this one.

In RG the Olympic competition format is different from Worlds. Only a maximum of 2 per country can go and there are no end finals, just the All around competition.

No one can say who will definitely make the Games as Russias talent pool is even deeper than in figure skating, but Dina (3 times World AA champion) is as close to a lock as you can get. Arina on the other hand probably has to battle some youngsters like Lala Kramarenko and Daria Trubnikova for the second spot, as she is less consistent than Dina and moreover she's constantly injured and seems to be held together by tape.

Sorry for the off topic.
 
Are the Averina’s identical twins?
Training together for all their lives?
One healthy the other constantly injured under the same loads?

Will make for an interesting scientific case study.

RG makes far greater demands on the body compared to FS.
 
Are the Averina’s identical twins?
Training together for all their lives?
One healthy the other constantly injured under the same loads?

Will make for an interesting scientific case study.

RG makes far greater demands on the body compared to FS.

Maybe Arina eats differently than Dina? As far as I know, they are identical twins
 
Are the Averina’s identical twins?
Training together for all their lives?
One healthy the other constantly injured under the same loads?

Will make for an interesting scientific case study.

RG makes far greater demands on the body compared to FS.

If you talk about them, here are relatively recent interviews with them, where among else they mention their similarities and differences (and also mention that they would do figure skating if they weren't gymnasts):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0snKnMPRhK8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QA1OcWxTY14
 
guys...please stop feeding the troll. all of us know this poster has nothing constructive or positive to contribute to this forum. let them live in their own world of made up rules and "cheating." no use in arguing at all.
 
Kamila Valieva will not be at the Cup Final at the end of this month, according to Team Tutberidze News. I’m sorta confused about the reason. Is it because she’s preparing for JW?
 
Kamila Valieva will not be at the Cup Final at the end of this month, according to Team Tutberidze News. I’m sorta confused about the reason. Is it because she’s preparing for JW?

i would assume that is the reason. i'm sure she wants to go in feeling good and not tired to have the best shot at winning.
 
Alina Gorbachyova who did so well in the Junior National Championships last week again competed excellently in her stage of the Winter Spartakiad, scoring 188.81 overall.

She scored 125.30 in her almost faultless free program, the best score in the competition: https://youtu.be/pwgu-O01z4w?t=18141
3F, 2A+3T, 3Lz, 3Lo, FCCoSp4, StSq3, 3Lo+1Eu+3S, 3Lz+2T, 2A, CCoSp4, LSp4

She was 1st in the short program as well, with 63.51: https://youtu.be/0RWNnTgNLZI?t=15096

She made good use of her dramatic “Angels and Demons” soundtrack, but seemed to skate a little more cautious compared to last week, where she went all out in speed and jumps.

Perhaps she will compete in the Russian Cup Finals next week?

I believe there is no Spartakiad Finals as such, but Alina’s addition to the Tver Region tally will be much appreciated.

Protocols are here: http://skatingvision.ru/events/1920/aleksin0220/index.htm.

Dar’ya Loboda also laid down excellent routines and a strong competition for 2nd place.
 
There are a few tumblr sites posting about rhythmic gymnastics, but I dont know about a forum like this one.

In RG the Olympic competition format is different from Worlds. Only a maximum of 2 per country can go and there are no end finals, just the All around competition.

No one can say who will definitely make the Games as Russias talent pool is even deeper than in figure skating, but Dina (3 times World AA champion) is as close to a lock as you can get. Arina on the other hand probably has to battle some youngsters like Lala Kramarenko and Daria Trubnikova for the second spot, as she is less consistent than Dina and moreover she's constantly injured and seems to be held together by tape.

Sorry for the off topic.

Dina is also injured, she had a foot surgery in Germany almost two years ago. Arina is injured at the moment, but we must remember she is really clumsy outside the carpet and always falls and trips with everything.

Ps. Sorry for the off topic
 
About this whole technique criticism, I’d like to say my point of view.

Evgenia Medvedeva is my favorite figure skater. I don’t think she’s the best technically, I still see some flaws in her technique, such as the lutz edge, the predominance of two-feet skating, the muscled combos and the spins. However, Zhenya is somehow the skater that moves me emotionally the most. Am I offending her by recognizing she’s not a perfect skater and has to work on some things? Absolutely not, I totally admire her, I’m probably one of her biggest fans and enthusiasts.

Anna Shcherbakova is a lovely girl, she sells her programs like no other, she emotes very well, and I really like her. She seems like the most polite/polished among the 3A, and I think she’s amazing for what she’s accomplished at such a young age. However, Anna still has to work on her skating skills, on pointing her foot, her lutz edge is INSIDE, and selectively ignoring mistakes from the ones you like is so common in this forum that it makes discussions unbearable. I’m talking about her toe pick moment, I have printed the screens of her videos in the very moment her toe pick reaches the ice. She has a change of edge, it’s undeniable, such as my favorite skater ever, Evgenia Medvedeva. Am I hating on them? Absolutely not, I am talking about objective scoring criteria, and they both deserve “e” calls on their lutzes.

Alina Zagitova, as I’ve been trying to point out for a long time in this thread, also has had lutz problema since before the olympics, she flutzed at 2018 Europeans, before puberty and her not so consistent era. Alina’s fans keep saying her edge is absolutely ok.

Alyona Kostornaya has a fluctuating edge in her lutz. Sometimes it’s outside, sometimes it’s flat, sometimes it’s slightly inside (more rarely). Guess what, Alyona is my favorite 3A, am I hating on her?

People should stop selectively analyzing their favorite’s techniques. Your favourites are not robots, they’re human, they make mistakes, and they may not be the best in an objective criterium, but they are the best in your hearts, a subjective criterium, and that’s what matters. You don’t have to try to convince everybody around you to like your favorite skater, everyone will have their favorite, and that’s the beauty of the world.
 
Dina is also injured, she had a foot surgery in Germany almost two years ago. Arina is injured at the moment, but we must remember she is really clumsy outside the carpet and always falls and trips with everything.

Ps. Sorry for the off topic

It's OK :-)

Strange that a person competing in the highest level of the most difficult coordination sport can be so clumsy in real life. So the identical twins are quickly growing apart now.
 
BTW Do you know who is Eteri and Daniil hugging with at 0:30?

No idea, sorry. But a warm acquaintance of Eteri Georgiyevna.

The feature is now on Youtube too: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F_PTzHGEka4

The amount of ultra-si in these three girls alone, they are really on a different level. No wonder so many want to smother the progress they brought to the sport.

But as always: #ТолькоВперёд !
 
About this whole technique criticism, I’d like to say my point of view.

Evgenia Medvedeva is my favorite figure skater. I don’t think she’s the best technically, I still see some flaws in her technique, such as the lutz edge, the predominance of two-feet skating, the muscled combos and the spins. However, Zhenya is somehow the skater that moves me emotionally the most. Am I offending her by recognizing she’s not a perfect skater and has to work on some things? Absolutely not, I totally admire her, I’m probably one of her biggest fans and enthusiasts.

Anna Shcherbakova is a lovely girl, she sells her programs like no other, she emotes very well, and I really like her. She seems like the most polite/polished among the 3A, and I think she’s amazing for what she’s accomplished at such a young age. However, Anna still has to work on her skating skills, on pointing her foot, her lutz edge is INSIDE, and selectively ignoring mistakes from the ones you like is so common in this forum that it makes discussions unbearable. I’m talking about her toe pick moment, I have printed the screens of her videos in the very moment her toe pick reaches the ice. She has a change of edge, it’s undeniable, such as my favorite skater ever, Evgenia Medvedeva. Am I hating on them? Absolutely not, I am talking about objective scoring criteria, and they both deserve “e” calls on their lutzes.

Alina Zagitova, as I’ve been trying to point out for a long time in this thread, also has had lutz problema since before the olympics, she flutzed at 2018 Europeans, before puberty and her not so consistent era. Alina’s fans keep saying her edge is absolutely ok.

Alyona Kostornaya has a fluctuating edge in her lutz. Sometimes it’s outside, sometimes it’s flat, sometimes it’s slightly inside (more rarely). Guess what, Alyona is my favorite 3A, am I hating on her?

People should stop selectively analyzing their favorite’s techniques. Your favourites are not robots, they’re human, they make mistakes, and they may not be the best in an objective criterium, but they are the best in your hearts, a subjective criterium, and that’s what matters. You don’t have to try to convince everybody around you to like your favorite skater, everyone will have their favorite, and that’s the beauty of the world.

Do you honestly believe that pointing out aspects of someone's skating the way you just did equates to how this poster talks about Anna Shcherbakova including derailing other threads by comparing skaters favorably to the injustice that is her technique (implying ill will and intentional cheating), making new threads for the sole purpose of discrediting Anna's quad achievements and constantly making derogatory comments in this thread? I find the two to be quite different.
 
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