I definitely think Kseniia will go senior as I'm pretty sure she has a high enough Seasons' Best for 2 GPs.
2019-20 Russian Ladies' Figure Skating
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I definitely think Kseniia will go senior as I'm pretty sure she has a high enough Seasons' Best for 2 GPs.
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Now, Eteri may be difficult to approach, but how can you hate/not like Alina?!
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??? Ksenia Sinitsyna? Lower ranked? As if she isn't the second highest scoring junior this season and fifth place at Senior RusNats?
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Valeria Shulskaya: should get a challenger. Criminally underscrored in the sp at nationals. But well, she's 16 so a good backup like Samodurova or someone like that. No major interntional experience though, which could put Ksenia Tsibinova ahead of her (especially cause Tsibinova is coached by CSKA)
Serafima Sakhanovich: idk, will she continue? she was attempting 4S but is that enough for anything?
Ksenia Sinitsyna: the biggest junior turning senior. She is having some growth inconsistency right now but if she gets another specially choreographed routine she should get 2 senior grand prix spots. Tbh even though she is being failed by politics, I don't think she's gonna switch coaches
Stasya Konstantinova: she switched to Volkov who gave Trusova a 3A and 4S if I am not mistaken, and she was working 3A but I don't see her getting any GP spots. Maybe a challenger, but it doesn't seem like she's ready to give up yet.
Others to note: Anastasia Tarakanova, Anastasia Gubanova, Elizaveta Nugumanova, Anastasia GUliakova (who should get a GP spot), Sofia Samodurova
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No idea about Shulskaia.
Sakhanovich will probably compete at Russian cup.
What is Sinitsina doing in this list?
She certainly doesn't belong here.Konstantinova- Russian cup and shows with Plushenko /by Plushenko.
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With very high certainty, from Company belonging to Aksenov that money went to Alina and her coaches in accordance to contractual agreement they have (is it 30%, 40% or 15% ). Most that can come out of It is tax fraud and a fine.
Other than somebody failing to declare money they received from Company belonging to Aksenov, what can be there ?
If we rule out conspiracy theories about Alina being in a slavery at Khrustalny, we are left with only one explanation: Bribe.In other words, Navka bribed TT with State Money thru Roskoncert(and was stupid enough to declare is for everyone to see).
And If this is a case, getting on Eteri's wrong side (Avdokhin is there anyway) should be least of authors worries, Navka is...a Wife of talking head of President and Chief of Roskoncert (whose name is on that document) is, if I am not mistaken, ex high ranking nuclear energy official
Anywya, Certain individuals pretty much openly declared a war against 'corrupt state schools who take bribes in letter boxes' but I have strange feeling they fired wrong shots, at wrong direction and at a wrong time.
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Anywya, Certain individuals pretty much openly declared a war against 'corrupt state schools who take bribes in letter boxes' but I have strange feeling they fired wrong shots, at wrong direction and at a wrong time.
Read this back: https://www.sport-express.ru/figure...-o-rabote-gosudarstvennyh-sportshkol-1644384/ , and follow the trail of Kuznetsov in this battle and to which side a supposedly independent correspondent leans.
This article didn't provoke any reaction AFAIK, so perhaps everybody already knows who is talking about what?
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Navka- "Alina is not 18 yet and she can't have her own IP, so Aksenov with agreement with her parents was her representative".
"Everything was in accordance to laws".
Well, this was to be expected, Navka obviously doesn't like stories like that running around her show.
"Everything was in accordance to laws".
Well, this was to be expected, Navka obviously doesn't like stories like that running around her show.
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Obviously, nobody has any doubts who exactly is behind that.
Thing is, if this is all he has in his cards... I doubt it's going to go very far.
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Alina Gorbachyova's end of season wish: https://www.instagram.com/p/B-KGcyXJMX2/ , with the rare few pictures of the medal ceremony and round of honour in an empty arena together with Gold medalist Sof'ya Akat'yeva and Silver medalist Dar'ya Usachyova.
alinochka_gorbacheva
" I ended this season with a Bronze medal of the X Winter Spartakiad of Russian students! 2 clean skating runs, a new personal record in the short of 68.64 and the total of two programs 196.05!
Many thanks to my coaches for working with me, their patience and the right attitude every day. "
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Well done, little dynamite. You did great, made yourself know, and collected lots of new fans.
alinochka_gorbacheva
" I ended this season with a Bronze medal of the X Winter Spartakiad of Russian students! 2 clean skating runs, a new personal record in the short of 68.64 and the total of two programs 196.05!
Many thanks to my coaches for working with me, their patience and the right attitude every day. "
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Well done, little dynamite. You did great, made yourself know, and collected lots of new fans.
So Navka needed two months and official investigation to speak up?
Also, you can't hide yourself behind representative name in a contract for specific work, not to mention artistic performance. It's breaking the law for sure.
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We might aswell start the discussion of GP assignments for next year.
This year, it will be a bit different as the Top 12 from Worlds are guaranteed two spots. We don't have that now!. So the procedures will be different I guess.
The Top 24 in the Seasons Best List that are eligible and guaranteed at least ONE assignment:
1. Alena Kostornaia
2. Alexandra Trusova
3. Anna Shcherbakova
6. Evgenia Medvedeva
9. Elizaveta Tuktamysheva
10. Alina Zagitova
11. Ksenia Sinitsyna
23. Viktoria Vasilieva
And the Top 24 in the World Standings List (as of now) that are eligible and guaranteed at least ONE assignment:
13. Sofia Samodurova
18. Stanislava Konstantinova
Russia has max 3 spots per event, which makes 2 spots for 9 skaters.
But there are 10 skaters eligible. What will RusFed do? (Remember this season they just cut Gubanova and Tarusina off although they were "guaranteed" one spot!)
I think all above skaters will get 2 spots except for Konstantinova and Vasilieva that might just get one each. OR Vasilieva might get none (and Konstantinova two).
I have a feeling though that RusFed will give the Host Pick to Anastasia Guliakova. After all she was the RCF champion and the 2nd alternate for Worlds (and Mishin is very powerful
).
That would complicate matters. But it looks to me, I'm afraid, that Vasilieva might get completely snubbed (like Gubanova and Tarusina) and Guliakova and Konstantinova get one spot.
Skaters like Sakhanovich, Nugumanova, Talalaykina, Tsibinova, Shulskaya and Tarakanova have no chance of a GP assignment at all.
What do you guys think?
Footnote: The World Standings List is not adjusted for next season yet. My estimation is that Konstantinova will drop 4-5 places but she will still be in the Top 24.
This year, it will be a bit different as the Top 12 from Worlds are guaranteed two spots. We don't have that now!. So the procedures will be different I guess.
The Top 24 in the Seasons Best List that are eligible and guaranteed at least ONE assignment:
1. Alena Kostornaia
2. Alexandra Trusova
3. Anna Shcherbakova
6. Evgenia Medvedeva
9. Elizaveta Tuktamysheva
10. Alina Zagitova
11. Ksenia Sinitsyna
23. Viktoria Vasilieva
And the Top 24 in the World Standings List (as of now) that are eligible and guaranteed at least ONE assignment:
13. Sofia Samodurova
18. Stanislava Konstantinova
Russia has max 3 spots per event, which makes 2 spots for 9 skaters.
But there are 10 skaters eligible. What will RusFed do? (Remember this season they just cut Gubanova and Tarusina off although they were "guaranteed" one spot!)
I think all above skaters will get 2 spots except for Konstantinova and Vasilieva that might just get one each. OR Vasilieva might get none (and Konstantinova two).
I have a feeling though that RusFed will give the Host Pick to Anastasia Guliakova. After all she was the RCF champion and the 2nd alternate for Worlds (and Mishin is very powerful
).That would complicate matters. But it looks to me, I'm afraid, that Vasilieva might get completely snubbed (like Gubanova and Tarusina) and Guliakova and Konstantinova get one spot.
Skaters like Sakhanovich, Nugumanova, Talalaykina, Tsibinova, Shulskaya and Tarakanova have no chance of a GP assignment at all.
What do you guys think?
Footnote: The World Standings List is not adjusted for next season yet. My estimation is that Konstantinova will drop 4-5 places but she will still be in the Top 24.
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I think it's more likely than not that at least one of Liza, Evgenia, or Alina will not compete in the GP next season, which would allow nine skaters to get two spots.
Personally, I don't think Evgenia and Liza will skip the Grand Prix. Liza will be looking to prove herself after a somewhat disappointing season this year, and if Beijing is still Evgenia's goal, she'll need to consistently compete to her full potential next year to prove that she is a contender.
Alina is definitely a possibility, though. I know she's been training, but has she ever explicitly stated that she plans on coming back to competition?
I think Alina announced back in February that she missed competing and is coming back for next season...??
In fact, I think all three of them, Alina, Zhenya and Liza are all hanging on to the hope of being able to compete at the next Olympics - it's only a season away.
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Preliminary GP spots ranking order: age as of test skates
2 spots
Alena Kostornaia, 17, Eteri
Anna Shcherbakova, 16, Eteri
Alexandra Trusova, 15, Eteri
Evgenia Medvedeva, 20, Orser
Ksenia Sinitsyna, 16, Panova
Elizaveta Tuktamysheva, 22, Mishin
Alina Zagitova, 18, Eteri (most likely will not participate)
Anastasia Guliakova, 18, Mishin
One spot/two if Zagitova pulls out
Sofia Samodurova, 18, Mishin
Viktoria Vasilieva, 17, Davydov
Stanislava Konstantinova, 19, Volkov (unless she shows a consistent 3A she's out)
Alternates/challengers (in case something strange happens)
Ksenia Tsibinova (has international experience + CSKA)
Valeria Shulskaia
Anastasia Gubanova
Anastasia TArakanova (fed hates her)
Elizaveta Nugumanova
I know that TArakanova, Gubanova, Talalaikina, Sakhanovich, Shulskaia, and TSibinova will have pretty much no chance but I hope that at least for Tarakanova, Tsibinova, and Shulskaia get a challenger because otherwise I don't see Nastya T continuing skating. For Gubanova and Nugumanova I'm afraid they've been relegated to the tier of Russian Cup, the depth is just too great
2 spots
Alena Kostornaia, 17, Eteri
Anna Shcherbakova, 16, Eteri
Alexandra Trusova, 15, Eteri
Evgenia Medvedeva, 20, Orser
Ksenia Sinitsyna, 16, Panova
Elizaveta Tuktamysheva, 22, Mishin
Alina Zagitova, 18, Eteri (most likely will not participate)
Anastasia Guliakova, 18, Mishin
One spot/two if Zagitova pulls out
Sofia Samodurova, 18, Mishin
Viktoria Vasilieva, 17, Davydov
Stanislava Konstantinova, 19, Volkov (unless she shows a consistent 3A she's out)
Alternates/challengers (in case something strange happens)
Ksenia Tsibinova (has international experience + CSKA)
Valeria Shulskaia
Anastasia Gubanova
Anastasia TArakanova (fed hates her)
Elizaveta Nugumanova
I know that TArakanova, Gubanova, Talalaikina, Sakhanovich, Shulskaia, and TSibinova will have pretty much no chance but I hope that at least for Tarakanova, Tsibinova, and Shulskaia get a challenger because otherwise I don't see Nastya T continuing skating. For Gubanova and Nugumanova I'm afraid they've been relegated to the tier of Russian Cup, the depth is just too great
Alina at this point has said she's going to come back and compete....That doesn't necessarily mean she plans on competing a 'full' season including the GP series, granted as of right now that would mean gambling that she beats 1 of Kostornaia/Trusova/Shcherbakova out at Nationals or gets put on the team due to her past medals, which is a risky gamble to make. I could foresee her foregoing competing on the GP and gambling for Nationals if she doesn't have a stable triple axel or quad by the start of the season.
I think for any of the Russian ladies unless they are injured they don't need to voluntarily give up a shot at competing, there are too many Russian ladies just as good or better than them that are behind them ready to take their spot.
*disclaimer for this next statement that I don't follow the points closely*
Not competing on GP is giving up ranking points for guaranteed events, if someone decides to not compete at the GP they risk not seeing any of top-tier international competitions the whole season - could it that possibly kick them out of the GP series for the Olympic year?
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Yes, not only ranking points, but prize money. Also placements at GP events can help qualify skaters for funding and for the national team.
