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Let's make an exception for Hot Sergei.
The man has some seriously blessed DNA. I'd say that qualifies him for his own FF. What sayeth the mods?
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Let's make an exception for Hot Sergei.
The man has some seriously blessed DNA. I'd say that qualifies him for his own FF. What sayeth the mods?
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CaroLizaFan is in charge of the Fan Fests. I think he would have been under the TT fan fest but now he might need his own? Not sure.
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You went there!
I can't help it. I laughed like a loon when I read it and thought "Do they know what the expression means here"?
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It's new to me! I only watch TSL occasionally, but now that you mention it I seem to remember a few references to Hot Sergei here and there. This changes nothing.
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:rofl2:
I'm thinking they meant the 'fishing pole' for practicing jumps.
But I like your version better.
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People should stop saying this change will be bad for Sasha, I honestly think it’s a genious idea. Rozanov is great, look at the work he’s done with the novices: Sofia Akatieva, Zhilina, Petrosian. Kamila also worked extensively with him. All these skaters have better skating skills than Sasha and Anna, and they also have ultra c elements. Sasha will have the type of training she already had with Eteri, but receiving more attention, better choreography, and probably more focus on skating skills, according to Pluschenko’s interview.
The simple fact that she might get better programs and better packaging (Pluschenko’s wife will know how to sell her well) is already a benefit comparing with what she would get from Eteri. Sasha’s programs were always weird and poorly choregraphed (except for Big Spender, but Big Spender had innapropriate lyrics), and it’s her chance to have someone to orient her more in terms of interpretation and choreography.
One of the main problems I see in her is the lack of finishing in the movement - she doesn’t fully extend, the posture is not fully straight, the hands are not always pretty, the feet are not always pointed. Once she gets that type of work on her posture and movements, we’ll see a much better Sasha. Many people talk about her skating skills, but I don’t see that as being the main problem. Her skating skills will improve wonders once she understands her body better and once she improves the quality of the movement, the lines. I’ve been watching many of her programs, and I think this is the most important.
She can also learn how to interpret the music better, but the music choice has to help her, at least in the beginning. That’s why I think the music they give her has to be expressive and allow her to show more interpretation and quality of movements. I’m not even talking about a style of music in particular, it just can’t be too fast, because she’s also not the fastest skater and it would show her weaker skating skills too much. It could be any style in reality, it just has to be expressive.
The other thing she totally needs is better costumes and better make up. It’s not that her previous ones were bad - this year’s SP was terrible, seriously, a joke, she looked so worse than Anna and Aliona, I felt bad for her - but she needs BEAUTIFUL costumes. I’ve never seen her costumes on the lists of “better costumes of the season”. Anna’s and Aliona’s SP costumes were beautiful, and I get where the “difference” in treatment she might be feeling, cause Eteri is the one that has the final say on the costumes. And the makeup! Jesus, it’s not that she needs “coverup”, her skin is actually lovely and she has a pretty face, but that thick poorly applied eyeliner without any eyeshadow is not helping her. She needs blush, eyelashes, cateye and LIPSTICK, even if in a softer color.
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The simple fact that she might get better programs and better packaging (Pluschenko’s wife will know how to sell her well) is already a benefit comparing with what she would get from Eteri. Sasha’s programs were always weird and poorly choregraphed (except for Big Spender, but Big Spender had innapropriate lyrics), and it’s her chance to have someone to orient her more in terms of interpretation and choreography.
One of the main problems I see in her is the lack of finishing in the movement - she doesn’t fully extend, the posture is not fully straight, the hands are not always pretty, the feet are not always pointed. Once she gets that type of work on her posture and movements, we’ll see a much better Sasha. Many people talk about her skating skills, but I don’t see that as being the main problem. Her skating skills will improve wonders once she understands her body better and once she improves the quality of the movement, the lines. I’ve been watching many of her programs, and I think this is the most important.
She can also learn how to interpret the music better, but the music choice has to help her, at least in the beginning. That’s why I think the music they give her has to be expressive and allow her to show more interpretation and quality of movements. I’m not even talking about a style of music in particular, it just can’t be too fast, because she’s also not the fastest skater and it would show her weaker skating skills too much. It could be any style in reality, it just has to be expressive.
The other thing she totally needs is better costumes and better make up. It’s not that her previous ones were bad - this year’s SP was terrible, seriously, a joke, she looked so worse than Anna and Aliona, I felt bad for her - but she needs BEAUTIFUL costumes. I’ve never seen her costumes on the lists of “better costumes of the season”. Anna’s and Aliona’s SP costumes were beautiful, and I get where the “difference” in treatment she might be feeling, cause Eteri is the one that has the final say on the costumes. And the makeup! Jesus, it’s not that she needs “coverup”, her skin is actually lovely and she has a pretty face, but that thick poorly applied eyeliner without any eyeshadow is not helping her. She needs blush, eyelashes, cateye and LIPSTICK, even if in a softer color.
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Watching this video made me feel nostalgic. Feels like the end of an era
I know Sasha is not retiring or something drastic like that but somehow her not being part of this team anymore feels... weird. I guess it will take time to get used to.
PS: I will surely miss Sasha and Tina's matching costumes
I wonder how this will affect the relationship between Sasha and ex team mates (specially Anna and Alyona). I hope they will stay on good terms and still be able to joke around together and stuff like that
It was always nice to see them interact with each other.
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I'm not disputing anything you're saying either. Most coaches around the world don't have directly competing athletes currently, doesn't mean they don't have other athletes. This also doesn't work in Russia. The simple questions is: if all coaches have one main skater, how many coaches are there in the country vs. how many skaters? What's happening in the Russian talent pool for ladies right now is very unique; I gave the example of junior nationals because we saw a small sample of how many talented skaters there are, and they all need coaches. It would be impossible for each of them to have a coach that focuses solely on them. We can talk about coaches needed to focus on just one athlete, but what is the solution for the remaining hundreds of skaters who all have 3-3s, skating skills, spins, etc.?
As far as I know, specifically in this group, they did not accept skaters at the same level as the current skaters. I gave the examples with Alena and Alina. When Alena was taken into the group, she was only 9th at junior nationals, was not invited to test skates, etc. Anna was the main up and coming junior at the time, and no one knew who Alena was. Same thing when Alina was accepted; she only had 1 triple, wasn't given a JGP assignment because she wasn't at that level. It's not like the team predicted that they would be able to beat Anna and Evgenia later on, therefore choosing to disrupt the "main athlete". They were skaters without any accomplishments or special qualities. It just worked out for them as a result of a combination of so many factors. Do you suggest that a coach should only train one single skater per country and discipline until they leave/retire?
I think it's just a natural progression in sports. As is skaters leaving coaches if they feel it's not working out. It can't be helped, no one is at fault, and there is no better solution.
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Late to the party as always but I needed some time to process this. When I said I was longing for some news, this is not what I had in mind. 
I didn't really think of any possible coaching changes during this off-season yet but I don't think I would have had Sasha on the top of my list. For me it looked a little like a rushed decision at first given that her results last season weren't exactly shabby, on the other hand this is the only sensible time for such a move with the Olympics coming up the season afterwards. I think Team Tutberidze did a tremendous job with her in the past, and I don't think they've been neglecting her (especially not on purpose), but people change, goals change, and if Sasha indeed felt unhappy at the rink (allegedly due to lack of attention) it's okay to look for someone who can give you what you're looking for at that point in time. Whether Plushenko can do that remains to be seen. Obviously he has no record of success as a coach yet so I can't really make a prediction how this cooperation will turn out. I just hope they won't be over-focused on the quads and also work on the packaging sufficiently. I'm very curious for her programs because while Team Tutberidze tries to give every skater programs that fit their style of course they all have Daniil's handwriting. Working with (an)other choreographer(s) will be a great chance for them to help distinguish Sasha from her opponents.
What I don't like is that some people act like she's a muppet, a victim of her parents' ambitions. I think in the past we've seen many times that Sasha is a strong-minded lady and surely would be capable of making a decision like this. That doesn't mean she stubbornly enforced a coaching change without thinking of the consequences either. Her parents definitely had a say in this since she's only 15, but I think the truth lies somewhere in between these two options. I'm confident that the decision has been made by both Sasha and her parents with her best interests in mind and I wish her all the best for the next chapter of her journey!
I didn't really think of any possible coaching changes during this off-season yet but I don't think I would have had Sasha on the top of my list. For me it looked a little like a rushed decision at first given that her results last season weren't exactly shabby, on the other hand this is the only sensible time for such a move with the Olympics coming up the season afterwards. I think Team Tutberidze did a tremendous job with her in the past, and I don't think they've been neglecting her (especially not on purpose), but people change, goals change, and if Sasha indeed felt unhappy at the rink (allegedly due to lack of attention) it's okay to look for someone who can give you what you're looking for at that point in time. Whether Plushenko can do that remains to be seen. Obviously he has no record of success as a coach yet so I can't really make a prediction how this cooperation will turn out. I just hope they won't be over-focused on the quads and also work on the packaging sufficiently. I'm very curious for her programs because while Team Tutberidze tries to give every skater programs that fit their style of course they all have Daniil's handwriting. Working with (an)other choreographer(s) will be a great chance for them to help distinguish Sasha from her opponents.
What I don't like is that some people act like she's a muppet, a victim of her parents' ambitions. I think in the past we've seen many times that Sasha is a strong-minded lady and surely would be capable of making a decision like this. That doesn't mean she stubbornly enforced a coaching change without thinking of the consequences either. Her parents definitely had a say in this since she's only 15, but I think the truth lies somewhere in between these two options. I'm confident that the decision has been made by both Sasha and her parents with her best interests in mind and I wish her all the best for the next chapter of her journey!
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Satoko has left to train with Lee Barkell in Canada. Even at Japan Nationals, only Lee Barkell was at rinkside with Satoko when Mia Hamada was there.So, when either of them leaves, their choice won't be Orser or Plushenko? I'm really relieved.
Now seriously, Rika and Satoko have the same coach,
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It certainly does. Thanks for the warning, but ... (1) Rozanov worked with the younger skaters (that's what Eteri hired him for), and had much to do with the development of the junior girls who did so well this past season ... and he wasn't allowed to go with them to the competitions? Shouldn't he have been sitting with them? not exclusively perhaps, but at least as one of the 3 coaches in K&C? I don't find it unreasonable at all that he would want to at least be seen, when he is credited with working so well with the juniors. That kind of pride in his students and ambition for himself is a positive characteristic. It would be part of the reward for all his efforts.
(2) According to this article, Rozanov has good communication skills in teaching. He doesn't have to resort to scolding, which is the usual form of correction with ET apparently? This sounds valid to me, since in interviews of the 3A I've read, it's been mentioned how intimidating Eteri is and keeps a distance. This method may work perfectly well with some students, but not at all well with others. Encouragement is a more effective motivator for some. Being able to critique, correct, and challenge students without scolding is a very valuable skill in a teacher/coach.
I've read so many articles on this transition in the last couple of days that I've lost count. I agree with those who've said Eteri and Team will be fine. I now feel that Roganov was justified and needed to seek another situation, for his own self-respect and well-being. It sounds like Plushenko intends to make him a prominent player with his own skaters, so good. I even feel a little more hopeful for Trusova now. Hoping for positive experiences and happiness all around.
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Maybe she can get better costumes, but I don't agree that she needs to change her makeup. Yes I know that costumes and presentation is part of it, but figure skating is a sport. If she doesn't want to spend more time or effort on it, it's not a big deal. She should only do what she's comfortable with.
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Legendary players who become legendary coaches: Carlo Ancelotti, Franz Beckenbauer, Johann Cruyf, Pep Guardiola, Zinedin Zidane.....and so on...I believe they were the biggest superstars..
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OK, but they were the same team with Rika for years.
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Why did Trusova leave Tutberidze? Understanding the logics of an unexpected transfer
May is a bad month for Eteri Tutberidze.
Two years ago, around the same time, she broke up with Medvyedeva - in Channel One prime time, Tutberidze showed screenshots of her messages, which Zhenya left unanswered, and was outraged that Brian Orser had made her a call. Not even by the fact that he lured a student, but by the fact that he called another pupil of Eteri - Sasha Trusova - a short-term phenomenon.
“ Wether a phenomenon or not, she made history. She went out and jumped two quadruples cleanly. Well, admit it, say - 'well done, girl'. Therefore, I have a feeling that Orser made the call ”, Tutberidze was determined at that moment.
Did Eteri manage to fend off this challenge? Yes, but not with Trusova.
Zagitova remained undefeated in personal duels with Medvyedeva, Kostornaya is already a world prima, Valiyeva is following close behind, she has quads, extensions, and an ideal year of birth in her passport. Shcherbakova was also added: in May 2018, few took her into account due to a serious injury that cost her almost the entire season.
The departure of Trusova is not a sensation?
Trusova remained he only loser in Khrustalniy. She was the first to show that quadruple jumps in women's competitions a) are possible psychologically and physically, b) do not ruin the program, c) are adequately perceived by the judges. Already sitting in the Kiss and Cry, awaiting her score for the phenomenal skating run at the 2018 Junior World Championships, Trusova dreamed aloud of a quadruple Lutz and triple Axel - technical records seem to interest her almost more than medals.
The whole past season, which was expected to be a presentation of the two-time Champion among Juniors, turned into a series of losses to classmates. Shcherbakova added stability to her quadruple Lutz, Kostornaya revived her triple Axel, and Trusova struggled with her own content, which often changed, throughout the season. Sasha then went to a crude triksel in the short, then declared five quadruples for her free. And at the same time, she struggled with the Lutz-Rittberger cascade: it suddenly became surprisingly unstable.
Perhaps the Championships of Russia became the point of no return, at which Trusova fell from two under rotated quadruples, unsuccessfully entered into a third and burst into tears after her skating run. Liza Tuktamysheva performed after Sasha, she could draw on content with more reliability and deprive Trusova of Bronze - and with it the tickets to the Europeans.
Trusova bursted into tears after her skating run: two falls, the embrace of Tutberidze and only the Bronze
“ Bursting into tears after skating? We ourselves always want to cry when it does not work out what the athlete is capable of. She is a maximalist, didn't do what she could. Perhaps now she will be a little angrier ”, explained Daniil Gleikhengauz then.
Even if Sasha got angry, this did not affect her skating. Trusova again failed to lead in the Europeans: with two falls, despite the fact that the number of quads was reduced to three from the ambitious five that were originally announced.
Finally, the star troika of Tutberidze cannot but be bothered by the fact that journalists and fans often perceive them as one.
“ We don’t like TShchK at all. And Triple A looks very funny in spelling. When I first saw this, I thought that they were writing about a triple Axel, and didn't understand what was being talking about. I don’t know, but certainly not TShchK ”, Anya Shcherbakova admitted a couple of weeks ago.
“ Once they have determined so, let them say so. But in general, we are separate individuals ” - this is how Kostornaya responded after her victory in the Grand Prix Finals.
Sasha’s decision to leave is expected. Before the Olympics, in another year and a half, the temptation to break away from her classmates is great, Trusova’s problems are rather in the uncertainty with content and weak components, not technical flaws.
And Sasha, despite all her outward immediacy and equanimity, looks like a vulnerable person whom insufficient attention can hurt. Especially if the declared principle “ everyone should have equal chances ” in practice is at variance with reality: a Sport24 insider told that Shcherbakova is the favourite of Gleikhengauz, and Trusova felt herself superfluous.
But why exactly Plyushchenko?
The main question that confronts any top female singles skater in recent years is “ who, if not Eteri? ” You can criticise her for strict methods, monotonous programming and controversial statements, but Tutberidze brought five medals from two Olympics, two of which are Gold and the other three are Silver. She has the full podium of the Grand Prix Finals, the Championships of Russia and Europe and promising juniors - the main contenders for the 2022 Games in Beijing.
Plyushchenko, frankly, is a coach without a name. His merits as a skater (which, in turn, are absent from Tutberidze) do not make him an ideal mentor. He broke up with Tarakanova in a scandal, spoke unflattering after Sakhanovich left; did not linger on ice with Yevgeniy(a) (?) and Maksim Kovtun. Plyushchenko’s main project now (let’s finally remove the brackets from 'Gnom Gnomich') is the headliner of his ice shows, Adelina Sotnikova.
At the beginning of the year, the composition of the academy was also replenished by Stanislava Konstantinova. True, no one yet has seen the results of their collaboration: the coronavirus intervened. The Sankt Peterburg skater, who spent her entire career in Chebotaryova's group, explained the transition as follows: " They gave me a chance, while some other people did not believe in me ".
Perhaps Trusova also felt that the group no longer believed in her. And maybe they helped her to understand this: in December 2019, Khrustalniy accused Plyushchenko of luring athletes.
Renat Layshev, the director of Sambo-70 to which Khrustalniy belongs, also hints at this option: “ Look at what happened with Zhenya Medvedeva, Polina Tsurskaya, Adyan Pitkeyev - everyone made suggestions and those who left went nowhere. Medvyedeva went to one of the best coaches in the world. Although we are from the world of martial arts, such a situation is strange for us: there are laws of ethics (in MA), but in figure skating this is the order of things ”.
Plyushchenko, however, countered with this response to Tutberidze's claim: “ Remind me, by the way, who did you bring up from scratch? Perhaps Sasha Trusova or Kamila Valiyeva, Alyona Kostornaya or Anya Shcherbakova? Olympic champions Yuliya Lipnitskaya or Alina Zagitova? After all, everyone knows that 'Team Tutberidze' takes only ready-made children with triple jumps so as not to unnecessarily linger. Of course, when it comes to luring, you have no equal. ”
It is no coincidence that Sasha Trusova was in this listing. Before moving to Eteri, she skate in the group of Anna Tsareva for awhile, and even earlier - in the group of Aleksandr Volkov. He called her jerky, stiff and wooden, but admitted that Sasha is real working material, from which you can fashion anything. Volkov said that he forbade Trusova to learn quadruples - he was afraid of injuries - but when the girl turned 11, he began to teach her the triple Axel. This will probably be their first joint challenge - all the more so since Sasha needs to strengthen the content in her short program in order to close the gap in components with the same Kostornaya.
It is interesting that Plyushchenko's was strengthened not only by a new student, but also by a coach: along with Trusova, Sergey Rozanov joined the enterprise. In the team of Eteri, he is in the shadow of Tutberidze, Gleikhengauz and Dudakov, although it was Rozanov who worked with the juniors and novices and reanimated Kostornaya’s triple Axel in early September.
And what other options did Trusova have?
Any 'I could see Trusova at Harutyunyan's' or 'Medvyedeva has always been an example for Sasha, so she needs Orser' are now impossible: the borders are closed indefinitely, and a pandemic cuts budgets. Moving overseas without parents is too adventurous for a teenager, apart from it being expensive: in addition to Sasha, there are two younger brothers in the family.
In Russia, Alexey Mishin, a techie who can instill confidence in an athlete and patiently wait out the difficulties of growing up, looks like an obvious option. But between a promising new student and the peace of mind of the old (Tuktamysheva), he could choose the second. In addition, moving to Sankt Peterburg would not solve one of Trusova’s main problems - finding the right images and suitable programs - but rather, even exacerbating this.
Evgeniy Rukavitsyn also drops off: firstly, his main successes are associated with men, and secondly, his students have problems with endurance - and Sasha really needs endurance to skate through such ambitious complexity. Valentina Chebotaryova and Yelena Buyanova, who do not work with girls aiming for the century mark in the technical assessment, do not fit either.
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For Sasha herself, the outcome of her transition to Plyushchenko is completely unclear. The chance of her becoming another entry on the list of those who left Tutberidze and finished their careers is quite large - however, no one guarantees that if Sasha stayed in Khrustalniy she would have gone to the Olympics either. In June, Trusova will turn 16: time does not work in her favour.
Equally important is how Tutberidze will respond to the new challenge. Obviously, all efforts will now be thrown at Shcherbakova and Kostornaya - they will be the ones who will have to prove that female single skating outside of Khrustalniy does not exist. It would be strategically correct to recall Zagitova. Firstly, the other day she will turn 18, and she will be able to prove that Eteri can work with adult (and those who have achieved everything) skaters. Secondly, with Alina it will again be possible to sweep the podiums of tournaments without letting Trusova step in.
It is also unclear where Eteri is now looking for a new coach. Less than a year ago, Lyudmila Shalashova, the mother of Daniil Gleikhengauz, died: she helped the group with performances and choreography. Now the already reduced team has lost Sergey Rozanov, who unloaded the main trio from working with young children.
However, as Tutberidze herself said, it'll be more interesting.
(c) Полина Крутихина
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From: https://www.sports.ru/tribuna/blogs/beznedokrutov/2776649.html
May is a bad month for Eteri Tutberidze.
Two years ago, around the same time, she broke up with Medvyedeva - in Channel One prime time, Tutberidze showed screenshots of her messages, which Zhenya left unanswered, and was outraged that Brian Orser had made her a call. Not even by the fact that he lured a student, but by the fact that he called another pupil of Eteri - Sasha Trusova - a short-term phenomenon.
“ Wether a phenomenon or not, she made history. She went out and jumped two quadruples cleanly. Well, admit it, say - 'well done, girl'. Therefore, I have a feeling that Orser made the call ”, Tutberidze was determined at that moment.
Did Eteri manage to fend off this challenge? Yes, but not with Trusova.
Zagitova remained undefeated in personal duels with Medvyedeva, Kostornaya is already a world prima, Valiyeva is following close behind, she has quads, extensions, and an ideal year of birth in her passport. Shcherbakova was also added: in May 2018, few took her into account due to a serious injury that cost her almost the entire season.
The departure of Trusova is not a sensation?
Trusova remained he only loser in Khrustalniy. She was the first to show that quadruple jumps in women's competitions a) are possible psychologically and physically, b) do not ruin the program, c) are adequately perceived by the judges. Already sitting in the Kiss and Cry, awaiting her score for the phenomenal skating run at the 2018 Junior World Championships, Trusova dreamed aloud of a quadruple Lutz and triple Axel - technical records seem to interest her almost more than medals.
The whole past season, which was expected to be a presentation of the two-time Champion among Juniors, turned into a series of losses to classmates. Shcherbakova added stability to her quadruple Lutz, Kostornaya revived her triple Axel, and Trusova struggled with her own content, which often changed, throughout the season. Sasha then went to a crude triksel in the short, then declared five quadruples for her free. And at the same time, she struggled with the Lutz-Rittberger cascade: it suddenly became surprisingly unstable.
Perhaps the Championships of Russia became the point of no return, at which Trusova fell from two under rotated quadruples, unsuccessfully entered into a third and burst into tears after her skating run. Liza Tuktamysheva performed after Sasha, she could draw on content with more reliability and deprive Trusova of Bronze - and with it the tickets to the Europeans.
Trusova bursted into tears after her skating run: two falls, the embrace of Tutberidze and only the Bronze
“ Bursting into tears after skating? We ourselves always want to cry when it does not work out what the athlete is capable of. She is a maximalist, didn't do what she could. Perhaps now she will be a little angrier ”, explained Daniil Gleikhengauz then.
Even if Sasha got angry, this did not affect her skating. Trusova again failed to lead in the Europeans: with two falls, despite the fact that the number of quads was reduced to three from the ambitious five that were originally announced.
Finally, the star troika of Tutberidze cannot but be bothered by the fact that journalists and fans often perceive them as one.
“ We don’t like TShchK at all. And Triple A looks very funny in spelling. When I first saw this, I thought that they were writing about a triple Axel, and didn't understand what was being talking about. I don’t know, but certainly not TShchK ”, Anya Shcherbakova admitted a couple of weeks ago.
“ Once they have determined so, let them say so. But in general, we are separate individuals ” - this is how Kostornaya responded after her victory in the Grand Prix Finals.
Sasha’s decision to leave is expected. Before the Olympics, in another year and a half, the temptation to break away from her classmates is great, Trusova’s problems are rather in the uncertainty with content and weak components, not technical flaws.
And Sasha, despite all her outward immediacy and equanimity, looks like a vulnerable person whom insufficient attention can hurt. Especially if the declared principle “ everyone should have equal chances ” in practice is at variance with reality: a Sport24 insider told that Shcherbakova is the favourite of Gleikhengauz, and Trusova felt herself superfluous.
But why exactly Plyushchenko?
The main question that confronts any top female singles skater in recent years is “ who, if not Eteri? ” You can criticise her for strict methods, monotonous programming and controversial statements, but Tutberidze brought five medals from two Olympics, two of which are Gold and the other three are Silver. She has the full podium of the Grand Prix Finals, the Championships of Russia and Europe and promising juniors - the main contenders for the 2022 Games in Beijing.
Plyushchenko, frankly, is a coach without a name. His merits as a skater (which, in turn, are absent from Tutberidze) do not make him an ideal mentor. He broke up with Tarakanova in a scandal, spoke unflattering after Sakhanovich left; did not linger on ice with Yevgeniy(a) (?) and Maksim Kovtun. Plyushchenko’s main project now (let’s finally remove the brackets from 'Gnom Gnomich') is the headliner of his ice shows, Adelina Sotnikova.
At the beginning of the year, the composition of the academy was also replenished by Stanislava Konstantinova. True, no one yet has seen the results of their collaboration: the coronavirus intervened. The Sankt Peterburg skater, who spent her entire career in Chebotaryova's group, explained the transition as follows: " They gave me a chance, while some other people did not believe in me ".
Perhaps Trusova also felt that the group no longer believed in her. And maybe they helped her to understand this: in December 2019, Khrustalniy accused Plyushchenko of luring athletes.
Renat Layshev, the director of Sambo-70 to which Khrustalniy belongs, also hints at this option: “ Look at what happened with Zhenya Medvedeva, Polina Tsurskaya, Adyan Pitkeyev - everyone made suggestions and those who left went nowhere. Medvyedeva went to one of the best coaches in the world. Although we are from the world of martial arts, such a situation is strange for us: there are laws of ethics (in MA), but in figure skating this is the order of things ”.
Plyushchenko, however, countered with this response to Tutberidze's claim: “ Remind me, by the way, who did you bring up from scratch? Perhaps Sasha Trusova or Kamila Valiyeva, Alyona Kostornaya or Anya Shcherbakova? Olympic champions Yuliya Lipnitskaya or Alina Zagitova? After all, everyone knows that 'Team Tutberidze' takes only ready-made children with triple jumps so as not to unnecessarily linger. Of course, when it comes to luring, you have no equal. ”
It is no coincidence that Sasha Trusova was in this listing. Before moving to Eteri, she skate in the group of Anna Tsareva for awhile, and even earlier - in the group of Aleksandr Volkov. He called her jerky, stiff and wooden, but admitted that Sasha is real working material, from which you can fashion anything. Volkov said that he forbade Trusova to learn quadruples - he was afraid of injuries - but when the girl turned 11, he began to teach her the triple Axel. This will probably be their first joint challenge - all the more so since Sasha needs to strengthen the content in her short program in order to close the gap in components with the same Kostornaya.
It is interesting that Plyushchenko's was strengthened not only by a new student, but also by a coach: along with Trusova, Sergey Rozanov joined the enterprise. In the team of Eteri, he is in the shadow of Tutberidze, Gleikhengauz and Dudakov, although it was Rozanov who worked with the juniors and novices and reanimated Kostornaya’s triple Axel in early September.
And what other options did Trusova have?
Any 'I could see Trusova at Harutyunyan's' or 'Medvyedeva has always been an example for Sasha, so she needs Orser' are now impossible: the borders are closed indefinitely, and a pandemic cuts budgets. Moving overseas without parents is too adventurous for a teenager, apart from it being expensive: in addition to Sasha, there are two younger brothers in the family.
In Russia, Alexey Mishin, a techie who can instill confidence in an athlete and patiently wait out the difficulties of growing up, looks like an obvious option. But between a promising new student and the peace of mind of the old (Tuktamysheva), he could choose the second. In addition, moving to Sankt Peterburg would not solve one of Trusova’s main problems - finding the right images and suitable programs - but rather, even exacerbating this.
Evgeniy Rukavitsyn also drops off: firstly, his main successes are associated with men, and secondly, his students have problems with endurance - and Sasha really needs endurance to skate through such ambitious complexity. Valentina Chebotaryova and Yelena Buyanova, who do not work with girls aiming for the century mark in the technical assessment, do not fit either.
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For Sasha herself, the outcome of her transition to Plyushchenko is completely unclear. The chance of her becoming another entry on the list of those who left Tutberidze and finished their careers is quite large - however, no one guarantees that if Sasha stayed in Khrustalniy she would have gone to the Olympics either. In June, Trusova will turn 16: time does not work in her favour.
Equally important is how Tutberidze will respond to the new challenge. Obviously, all efforts will now be thrown at Shcherbakova and Kostornaya - they will be the ones who will have to prove that female single skating outside of Khrustalniy does not exist. It would be strategically correct to recall Zagitova. Firstly, the other day she will turn 18, and she will be able to prove that Eteri can work with adult (and those who have achieved everything) skaters. Secondly, with Alina it will again be possible to sweep the podiums of tournaments without letting Trusova step in.
It is also unclear where Eteri is now looking for a new coach. Less than a year ago, Lyudmila Shalashova, the mother of Daniil Gleikhengauz, died: she helped the group with performances and choreography. Now the already reduced team has lost Sergey Rozanov, who unloaded the main trio from working with young children.
However, as Tutberidze herself said, it'll be more interesting.
(c) Полина Крутихина
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From: https://www.sports.ru/tribuna/blogs/beznedokrutov/2776649.html
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First, I don't think skating skills has much to do with what Rozanov has done. Also I wouldn't call Anna's skating skills worse, I don't know why púrecisely her is so often called that.
Second, anything I've seen from Plushekos student couldn't be called "better choreography/programs". We have direct comparison here, Nastya Tarakanova. Yes, her programs were good when she was with Plushenko. Those were quality programs. But definitely not better than what she had at Khrustalnyi or what other girls from trhere had. Katya Ryabova both seasons had more or less average programs. From what I saw at lower dopmestic programs, younger "angels" also didn't have somehow better choreographies. Sasha's programs so far suited well to what she had to perform and her last SP wasn't terrible to me. We shall see what her programs will be, but there's hardly any "simple fact".
Third, it looks like in some people's mind all the good things were already attributed only to Rozanov
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Third, it looks like in some people's mind all the good things were already attributed only to Rozanov
That's not how I read it. It looks more like a correction of the previous picture, according to which Daniil and Sergei D. have done the basic work.
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I disagree, I dare to say that everybody here, incl. myself, recognized Rozanov's work as very contributive and important. But stating that "all these skaters have better skating skills than Sasha and Anna" is definitely not just a simple "correction of the previous picture".
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It is not about what you could see as an insider beforehand, but about the public representation and perception. One can argue about skating skills, this forum is the best proof.
