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Sorry I thought she had confirmed it in the live stream, my bad. Edit that to ‘hopefully coming back’.
2019-20 Russian Ladies' Figure Skating
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Sorry I thought she had confirmed it in the live stream, my bad. Edit that to ‘hopefully coming back’.
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It would be sad for Adeliya Petrosian and Sofia Samodelkina (and other skaters from different countries and disciplines, of course), who should have their openining competitions in juhiors this season, if the whole JGP would be cancelled. I still hope it will be just postponed at worst.
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Hi guys!
I haven't been here for a while. So Trusova is leaving Eteri. Well, we knew that one was coming...
But what I am curious about is the new ISU rules and the impact it will have on women's skating.
As I understand it, there will be a 'q' call for a quarter underrotated jumps which will be like the '!' call and loss of GOE.
Also 3F and 3Lz will have the same BV, so will 4F, 4Lz and 4L.
Is there any other changes that I missed?
I haven't been here for a while. So Trusova is leaving Eteri. Well, we knew that one was coming...
But what I am curious about is the new ISU rules and the impact it will have on women's skating.
As I understand it, there will be a 'q' call for a quarter underrotated jumps which will be like the '!' call and loss of GOE.
Also 3F and 3Lz will have the same BV, so will 4F, 4Lz and 4L.
Is there any other changes that I missed?
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Some changes in deductions, find the link for the ISU communications 2323 and 2324 in proper threads. Things differing from the last season are underlined there.
Thanks. Looks like the ISU has looked at Shcherbakova and wanted to reduce the BV of her four Lutzes free program.
Perhaps they are just fans, so now she can go for 4 Flips in a program, no need to worry about the edge issues
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Yeah, I don’t believe that the edges or URs or full blade takeoffs will be used against the very top skaters. They have nothing to worry about at all.
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I can understand Sasha's (or rather her father's shall I say) reasoning behind this move.
It is very crowded in Eteri's group. This season the top 4 in the world were training there on top of one another, next season with Alina back and the top juniors moving up, it would have been 6.. then Valieva etc etc... and counting. Which is arguably one of the keys to their success.
But she clearly isn't the leader anymore, sth that she has been used to being since she can think.
We don't know whether she needed a more singular status from her coach because she's struggling or whether she just wants to be the top dog in the group so to speak. Probably a mixture of both. And of course Plushenko, or his wife who actually cooks up all these maneuvers, promises that.
It's not a scandalous decision to make from her perspective, but I do think it will backfire on her.
While the environment Plushenko is willing to create for her at his rink might be more pleasing to her mentally, I'm not sure her results will be. But I definitely hope to be proven wrong.
It is very crowded in Eteri's group. This season the top 4 in the world were training there on top of one another, next season with Alina back and the top juniors moving up, it would have been 6.. then Valieva etc etc... and counting. Which is arguably one of the keys to their success.
But she clearly isn't the leader anymore, sth that she has been used to being since she can think.
We don't know whether she needed a more singular status from her coach because she's struggling or whether she just wants to be the top dog in the group so to speak. Probably a mixture of both. And of course Plushenko, or his wife who actually cooks up all these maneuvers, promises that.
It's not a scandalous decision to make from her perspective, but I do think it will backfire on her.
While the environment Plushenko is willing to create for her at his rink might be more pleasing to her mentally, I'm not sure her results will be. But I definitely hope to be proven wrong.
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Meaning Mr Jeroen Prins had a hand in this rule change, perhaps instigated it?
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Yes that's how mathman puts two and two together. So I surmise that mathman thinks you are the eteri mob boss and I am one of your underlings.
I have major doubts for Sasha in this coaching change because she's going to a coach with no track record and the fact that he is one of the all-time greats in figure skating means nothing. Young Sergei should be Sasha's main coach and that could work out.
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If there were any 'issues', these could turn into 'problems', and Aleksandra ('s parents) a 'troublemaker', which #TeamTutberidzeForProgress can do without, since they always have full ice in every age group. You don't want obstinate teenage girls throwing tantrums in an already high pressure training atmosphere. Nor parents raising trouble at the boards, seeking the media, etc.
So all in all, it's the best solution. But keeping Trusova relying on 'sports' i.e. jumping prowess instead of 'artistry' is a big gamble. No matter how much money is thrown at how many, no matter how prestigious choreographers and program designers. Everything has 'to click'.
Aleksandra has to perform optimally, perhaps having her jumping reined in, to maximise scoring potential in technique and judges' appreciation in the components.
Aleksandra is growing physically, mentally, emotionally, lots of variables need to be tweaked, and this takes patience, understanding and sensitivity. Instant success is not guaranteed.
I believe this is the plan. Rozanov the coach, and Plyushchenko the manager over both.
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very well said. Plushenko and his actions are very disturbing because it's not becoming of one of the all-time greats in figure skating. Just congratulate your girl and move on. Eteri has the numbers game on all levels. Sofia 1 this event and good for her. But so what.
Gorschkov needs to have a talk with Plushenko pleading with him not to raise the level of vitriol between skating clubs. Evgeni has done absolutely nothing as a coach with talented skaters like Nastya T and SS. He may in time become a good coach but that remains to be seen. He obviously needed to get young talent in his system that was created by another coach. IE EG.
Also the president of the Russian skating Federation needs to Die the next transfer from EG to plushenko. Let him and his staff develop their own talent instead of pilfering it from others with many promise$.
Seriously, what are you talking about? Athletes change coaches all the time. Would you say that Eteri poached Alena Kanysheva? No one poached anyone. People just found something they would like better. This is getting tiresome.
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This is the only place I’ve read that Alina has said she’s coming back. Does anyone have a link to anything official?
Also, I’ve been searching for incidents or situations showing that Trusova is a problem. Any links to this?
Also, I’ve been searching for incidents or situations showing that Trusova is a problem. Any links to this?
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Rolls eyes so hard.
It's pretty clear to me that numerous people here just have it in for Plushy for whatever reason and that's the source of their "worries" over Sasha's career.
Admit it, you'd rather Sasha go to a coach who actually does work out of his garage rather than Plushenko.
And I'm starting to think you're actually afraid that it'll turn out well and you'll look like fools. Which I hope you do.
Well, at least Sofia Titova is excited about this, she's a big Sasha T fan.
It's pretty clear to me that numerous people here just have it in for Plushy for whatever reason and that's the source of their "worries" over Sasha's career.
Admit it, you'd rather Sasha go to a coach who actually does work out of his garage rather than Plushenko.
And I'm starting to think you're actually afraid that it'll turn out well and you'll look like fools. Which I hope you do.
Well, at least Sofia Titova is excited about this, she's a big Sasha T fan.
https://www.instagram.com/p/CAK9018FaRP/
Found this on Instagram from a fan page, Alina and Danill G. did an online training like some of the others have, I guess they answered some questions as well that music for programs has been picked.
I think for Trusova it was the best possible choice other than Tutberidze. Rozanov has the same or quite similar teaching methods to Khrustalny. Trusova is already a made athlete, she has most of the jumps ready, so not much to worry about. Unless of course the coaching genius Plyushchenko tries to interfere
The real problem i could see with Zhilina. There is a lot of work ahead and i doubt Rozanov has all the required skills for that
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"coaching genius Plyushchenko"- no one said that my, friend. But what we have read what we have seen from some pupils , coach, skater on the Academy he has knowledge and ambition to be a good coach. I remember Kovtun trained on the Academy for some weeks because he didn't know what needs to do. Plush restored his 3A during 2 weeks.
So we don't know what will happen. Wait and see. This is the best what we can do now.
But what we have read what we have seen from some pupils , coach, skater on the Academy he has knowledge and ambition to be a good coach. I remember Kovtun trained on the Academy for some weeks because he didn't know what needs to do. Plush restored his 3A during 2 weeks. So we don't know what will happen. Wait and see. This is the best what we can do now.
