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I've seen a lot of speculation that Carreira/Ponomarenko are going to be here part of the time (since they can't train internationally full-time due to Christina's citizenship needs), which would, if nothing else, explain the lack of an immediate announcement of an alternative coach. But I'm still skeptical about teams deliberately seeking multi-country coaching arrangements at this particular moment in time.

If Makita/Gunara are contemplating continuing into seniors, I feel they might want to consider a move here, because I don't think Wing & Lowe are ever going to have the juice they need to push to the very top.
These two and the Browns are who I would *love* to see in this situation - both very talented teams who need the coaching staff to push them further - if M/G had been at IAM then I think they would've beaten Natalie and Bruce at the challenge event last month and I think the Browns would've been in a better position politically to win the junior title.
 
thanks for doing this ; Ruest-Wolfe are also out for the season I believe. Which makes it 3 teams for 2 spots for worlds... MTM gets a spot obviously... I am curious about W/M : are they back in shape? They had to withdraw from Challenge...
From what I heard from W/M, it was a minor ankle sprain that got better pretty fast - they mainly withdrew because they felt it was better to let it heal the best it could than to risk it when they already had a bye to nats (before it was cancelled ofc)
 
From what I heard from W/M, it was a minor ankle sprain that got better pretty fast - they mainly withdrew because they felt it was better to let it heal the best it could than to risk it when they already had a bye to nats (before it was cancelled ofc)
that's great news. I trust Skate Canada to assess their level of training and fitness then, just to confirm they deserve that spot... but of course, they do, on paper.
 
Romsky just posted a new video. In the video he was asked a question about how Canada will determine which male skater to send to Worlds. He mentioned Skate Canada will be sending someone to monitor his skating mid-FEB and then they will make a decision prior to March 1st. Fingers crossed Roman is skating really well during this time period so I can watch him perform at Worlds.
 
Wow it will be hard for Canada to determine who to send in men's and women. In women the big questiion mark is Gabby Daleman and in the men it is Keegan, Roman and Nam. Roman has the lead winning 2020 nats and Challenge this year yuo would think but Nam has been consistent and beat him at 4CC's and was chosen last year. Keegan has the perhaps the best chance of being in the top five.
 
Canadians with World mins (age eligible and currently competing)

Ladies- Schizas, Schumacher, Daleman, Mallet, Bausback, Pineault (taking season off)

Men- Sadovsky, Nguyen, Messing, Nadeau, Orzel, Toman, Phan, Gogolev, Rakic

Pairs- MTM, Walsh/Michaud, Matte/Ferland, Ruest/Wolfe

Dance (excluding juniors)- FB/S, Gilles/Poirier, Lajoie/Lagha, Soucisse/Firus, Fabbri/Ayer, Lanaghan/Razgulajevs, Sales/Wamsteeker

If I was picking the team, I'd monitor in a couple of disciplines, but most are pretty clear, IMO. I'd choose:

Ladies: Schizas and Daleman (provided she has progressed some from challenge; if not, Schumacher)
Men: This is the toughest. I'd want to see results from monitoring, but first choice Roman, second choice Messing, third choice Nam
Pairs: MT/M and Walsh Michaud
Dance: Gilles/Poirier, FB/S, Lajoie/Lagha

I think this team is totally capable of getting Canada at least two spots in each discipline, save the ladies. I think there we'll have to be content with one.
 
Canada has a reaoable shot at three spots in dance/ Gilles and Porier need to beat at least one American and one Russian
 
Canada has a reaoable shot at three spots in dance/ Gilles and Porier need to beat at least one American and one Russian
without the french team there, it should be okay to get 13 points or even less. Their absence helps all Canadian top teams to rank one step higher than "expected". In other words, it makes Canada's expected total lose 2 points, not only 1.
 
They really need the "Off Topic" Emoji back. OK Canadians, I have been looking for a clip of Jennifer Robinson's "The Summer Knows" it used to be on Youtube but, it has disappeared. Do any of you have it? Please post a link if you do. Thank you in advance. Mr. Rice
 
Wish you would have tell us the season, or at least describe the costume she wore to make the digging session easier. :laugh:

1999 Skate Canada (timestamp 26:22):

2000 Worlds:
 
without the french team there, it should be okay to get 13 points or even less. Their absence helps all Canadian top teams to rank one step higher than "expected". In other words, it makes Canada's expected total lose 2 points, not only 1.
Exactly. And if we could guess or be fair GP or the Danadians the odds are one should get a "break" because if things went against them yes they could be like r 6th and 11th. But both are more than capable of doing much better - even like 3rd and 6th.
 
11th? really? i doubt it.... i am not sure who is competing at this point... but 11th would surprise me a lot when last year we were thinking about GP getting 5th and the Canes 8th... so how are they going to rank 11th now? Please write down the 10 couples who will beat the Canes. I am curiously and sincerely asking to see how you are thinking here because I am confused with that statement.
Exactly. And if we could guess or be fair GP or the Danadians the odds are one should get a "break" because if things went against them yes they could be like r 6th and 11th. But both are more than capable of doing much better - even like 3rd and 6th.
 
As far as ice dance rankings go, with P/C gone you've got the rest of the big six teams potentially there, albeit with considerable uncertainty about what shape Victoria Sinitsina will be in if S/K are able to make it (even prior to COVID, they were clearly not in great shape at Rostelecom). But assume (since it makes sense to plan for the law of averages scenario) that Piper & Paul are fifth, behind Russia and America's #1-2s (it's far from inconceivable that they might end up beating one of those, having done so a number of times in the last while). Then you have the Italians in sixth, rounding out the top six.

In the next level of skaters you'd have Laurence & Nikolaj along with Hawayek/Baker, Fear/Gibson, and perhaps Wang/Liu and Zahorski/Guerreiro. Midway through the 2019/20 season F-B/S were pulling clearly ahead of H/B, who had been having a rough season; Kaitlin & Jean-Luc seem to have turned things around this year, which combined with F-B/S missing some time means they might be ahead again, but who knows? And even if they are, that's fine, they just need to be eighth, though of course they'll be shooting for seventh.

Three of the four teams I named in that group have the same coaches, incidentally, which also makes me wonder a bit how the politicking on behalf of all those teams works. Because obviously I.A.M. wants all of its teams to do well, but you'd also assume they want them to do well in ways that all meet certain thresholds; in this case, Marie-France and co. want Marjorie & Zach to be able to go to the Olympics too, which means that they need Laurence & Nik to beat some of their other teams who are in a roughly similar scoring bracket.
 
it is simple... FBS need to gain momentum... if not, Lala will surpass them... so the line is very fine here and things will play out accordingly
 
it is simple... FBS need to gain momentum... if not, Lala will surpass them... so the line is very fine here and things will play out accordingly
FBS had momentum last year, but they lost it. I believe that was related to Nic's surgery and the problematic training conditions this year. Their RD at Challenge looked great, the FD not so much. I love both couples and am content to watch and wait to see what happens.
 
it is simple... FBS need to gain momentum... if not, Lala will surpass them... so the line is very fine here and things will play out accordingly
I was wondering after 2020 4CC (where Marjorie & Zach did really well) and Laurence & Nikolaj missed the second half of the season, whether they might be in danger of being overtaken, but based on what happened at Challenge I don't think that's likely to happen by next nationals. Laurence & Nik were scored neck-and-neck with Piper & Paul in the RD and they still beat Marjorie & Zach in the free dance despite some rough patches toward the end. While obviously momentum can shift in ice dance, they're running out the clock pretty nicely.
 
I think the Browns would've been in a better position politically to win the junior title.
Hmmm, yes. It's sad that politics always plays such a role. I like Wolfkostin/Chen a lot, but that result was neck-and-neck for U.S. junior ice dance, seeing as how much the Browns have increased their level. Oona & Gage were already very good. They just look extra amazing this season! It must be a combination of hard work, desire, and picking just the right music selection with out-of-this-world choreo. And then marketing the performance the way they did on social media which brought in viewers who weren't even skating or ice dance aficionados.

And since this is not U.S. ice dance, I'm sorry for responding to a bit of thread drift.
 
What does Top 5 do though?

As a solo representative, they will need Top-10 for two spots. Top-2 for three spots.
Either Roman or Keegan could make top 10. It's hard to say whether either have the better chance. Perhaps Keegan due to his greater international experience level. But Roman has absolutely grown in skill and quality programs. It's tough that Canada only has one men's spot.
 
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