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2021–22 Canadian Figure Skating

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After this men’s event, I don’t see how Joseph Phan or Nam Nguyen can get an Olympic Spot unless they win Canadian Nationals. At the moment, Keegan and Roman have these two spots, unless one of them falls apart at Nationals. Wesley Chiu is the third best, followed by Conrad with Stephen rounding out the top five.

I’m looking for forward to watching the Senior Women today.
 

4everchan

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After this men’s event, I don’t see how Joseph Phan or Nam Nguyen can get an Olympic Spot unless they win Canadian Nationals. At the moment, Keegan and Roman have these two spots, unless one of them falls apart at Nationals. Wesley Chiu is the third best, followed by Conrad with Stephen rounding out the top five.

I’m looking for forward to watching the Senior Women today.
i never really thought Jo was in the hunt (though I adore him and would wish for a miracle :) ) . He has not competed all year until now... and his tech content is so watered down and unstable that it seems to me he is coming back from injury... i may be wrong but yeah...

I also don't think challenge counts...

I would agree that Keegan would have to do really badly at Nationals not to be selected, but i believe it's wide open for the second spot.... if Nam came back strongly, I don't see why it would be held against him that he struggled in the fall after overcoming difficult times..
 
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Colonel Green

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After this men’s event, I don’t see how Joseph Phan or Nam Nguyen can get an Olympic Spot unless they win Canadian Nationals. At the moment, Keegan and Roman have these two spots, unless one of them falls apart at Nationals. Wesley Chiu is the third best, followed by Conrad with Stephen rounding out the top five.

I’m looking for forward to watching the Senior Women today.
The federation prioritizes national results unless there's a strong reason not to. In this case, whoever is the highest non-Keegan finisher at nationals will go, in all likelihood.
 

mrrice

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The federation prioritizes national results unless there's a strong reason not to. In this case, whoever is the highest non-Keegan finisher at nationals will go, in all likelihood.
I haven't seen the Free Programs for the Men. Did Nam have a better outing than he did in the SP?
 

4everchan

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Oh No, I guess he's really done with skating. I can't imagine he'll make the Olympic team. I can't see him beating Keegan or Roman. Do you think he has a chance?
at this point, everyone has a chance.... I'd say that Keegan would need to do really badly at Nationals not to go.. but for the others, I agree with some others : the best non-Keegan skater at Nationals will be at the games...
 

4everchan

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yeah.. that's what many people thought... injury, so no challengers, no Skate Canada Challenge... only focusing on getting ready in time for Nationals... sounds like she did something to an ankle ???
 

mrrice

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i never really thought Jo was in the hunt (though I adore him and would wish for a miracle :) ) . He has not competed all year until now... and his tech content is so watered down and unstable that it seems to me he is coming back from injury... i may be wrong but yeah...

I also don't think challenge counts...

I would agree that Keegan would have to do really badly at Nationals not to be selected, but i believe it's wide open for the second spot.... if Nam came back strongly, I don't see why it would be held against him that he struggled in the fall after overcoming difficult times..
I am sad to read this as I really thought Jo was going to become the National Champion. I'm happy to see Nam place fourth in the LP but, he was quite far from Stephen in his total score.
 

4everchan

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I am sad to read this as I really thought Jo was going to become the National Champion. I'm happy to see Nam place fourth in the LP but, he was quite far from Stephen in his total score.
Jo hasn't competed in nearly a full year = injuries.... My never thought is since last year... not from before. Jo has all the goods, when healthy to be a top 10 in the world, let alone a Canadian champion. I am behind him : he is by far my favourite Canadian skater after Chiddy and Jeff...
 

ashleyming

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Jo hasn't competed in nearly a full year = injuries.... My never thought is since last year... not from before. Jo has all the goods, when healthy to be a top 10 in the world, let alone a Canadian champion. I am behind him : he is by far my favourite Canadian skater after Chiddy and Jeff...
Now even top 10 in the Worlds is hard to say for him. We are living in a world where the technical contents of male skaters are rising up everyday in terms of number of quad jumps, and the judging system also appreciates that trend. Our Canadian men seem to be left behind because of that. (Not to mention Patrick despite the fact that Patrick is the only one in the world who breaks the 200+ point by just only 2 quads in 1 type of quads, because he competed under the old system, and of course, he is good enough to persuade the judges when being needed. 😶)
 

4everchan

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Now even top 10 in the Worlds is hard to say for him. We are living in a world where the technical contents of male skaters are rising up everyday in terms of number of quad jumps, and the judging system also appreciates that trend. Our Canadian men seem to be left behind because of that. (Not to mention Patrick despite the fact that Patrick is the only one in the world who breaks the 200+ point by just only 2 quads in 1 type of quads, because he competed under the old system, and of course, he is good enough to persuade the judges when being needed. 😶)
Jo has a quad salchow, a great quad toe, even a quad loop (in training only) ... ii am not worried about his technical content.. I am worried about his recurring injuries. He hasn't even competed for real on the senior scene yet. Fine, maybe I need to quiet down but yeah... Jo for the win !
 

ashleyming

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also, nam got to top 5... so did kevin and keegan, top 6. So why not Jo?
But the thing is all of them got into the top under the old judging system, the new system, which are being applied for this season, is not about appreciating skating skills other than the jumps. I'm not happy about that but it just how it is now.
 

4everchan

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But the thing is all of them got into the top under the old judging system, the new system, which are being applied for this season, is not about appreciating skating skills other than the jumps. I'm not happy about that but it just how it is now.
not so sure the system is that different... the thing is that our guys need to land their jumps.. when they do, they are rewarded. right now, even Keegan is not doing well... some skaters do not even have quads and get high scores but they have been consistent skate after skate
 

ashleyming

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not so sure the system is that different... the thing is that our guys need to land their jumps.. when they do, they are rewarded. right now, even Keegan is not doing well... some skaters do not even have quads and get high scores but they have been consistent skate after skate
With an exception for Jason only. Anyway, our guys are missing the vibes of fighting for the Olympic spots, but I guess it doesn't matter anymore. From now on, big stars or not, everything is about the Nats.
 

4everchan

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With an exception for Jason only. Anyway, our guys are missing the vibes of fighting for the Olympic spots, but I guess it doesn't matter anymore. From now on, big stars or not, everything is about the Nats.
D V is also making his mark... we will see :) and yes to Nationals. All I hope for is for the guys to just skate to their potential.. Challenge was indeed a challenge to watch...
 

ashleyming

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D V is also making his mark... we will see :) and yes to Nationals. All I hope for is for the guys to just skate to their potential.. Challenge was indeed a challenge to watch...
The only exception for no quads but still make it to the podium,well... only Jason I guess. Anyway, the new judging system reduces the base value for the same quad type in case one is performed in separation, the other is done in combo, so our men definitely need proper strategies along with consistency.
 

4everchan

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The only exception for no quads but still make it to the podium,well... only Jason I guess. Anyway, the new judging system reduces the base value for the same quad type in case one is performed in separation, the other is done in combo, so our men definitely need proper strategies along with consistency.
i am not sure what you are referring to when you are talking about the new judging system... did i miss a memo?
 
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