2021-2022 US Women's Figure Skating

[Minz]

Are we sleeping on Mirai? I’m a bit out of the loop, but what’s the deal with her anyway? She officially retire yet? It seems like she’s still capable of doing triples, and is posting a lot of skating videos on her Instagram.

She hasn’t competed in a few years. She had to get a major hip surgery, which I believe is a result from training the 3A. AFAIK, she isn’t planning to compete any more.

 

[alyssamarie]

Are we sleeping on Mirai? I’m a bit out of the loop, but what’s the deal with her anyway? She officially retire yet? It seems like she’s still capable of doing triples, and is posting a lot of skating videos on her Instagram.

She is focusing on coaching. I've seen her do some 2as and triples but nothing serious.

 

[Minz]

She is focusing on coaching. I've seen her do some 2as and triples but nothing serious.

She posted a video of her doing a 3A on a harness a little while back. (Apparently, she was only going to do a double, then pulled in for a triple at the last second.)

 

[elbkup]

The point is that Lindsay has a strong competitive mindset. She was able to keep her composure against very tough competition. She went for a jump that she knew poorly executed could cost her any chance at a medal because it’s clear the 3A isn’t there yet. But she did it anyway. A lot of the game is mental and Lindsay was able to capitalize on Minchae’s mistake. Had Lindsay gotten intimidated by the competition and melted down in the free she wouldn’t have been able to nab that bronze when the door was left open.

My thoughts exactly.. you said it perfectly! There are those that don’t like this view at all but she is as you say..

 

[alyssamarie]

She posted a video of her doing a 3A on a harness a little while back. (Apparently, she was only going to do a double, then pulled in for a triple at the last second.)

Must've been at SCOB and not my rink so I didn't see it. We have no harness. I think she doesn't want to lose her form in case she wants to do shows in the future when they come back.

 

[Jontor]

I hope that you Americans come to your senses and send Alysa and Lindsay to the Olympics. There is no other choice than those two.

For the third girl I would strongly suggest Audrey or Ava Marie instead of Bradie, Mariah, Amber, Karen.

 

[macy]

I hope that you Americans come to your senses and send Alysa and Lindsay to the Olympics. There is no other choice than those two.

For the third girl I would strongly suggest Audrey or Ava Marie instead of Bradie, Mariah, Amber, Karen.

...we are only 2 weeks into the season.

 

[moonvine]

If Alysa ends up being as far ahead of the others as we think she will, it makes you wonder whether the USFSA will have her do both segments of the team event. With a 3A, she would be an obvious choice for the SP. However, if there is a big gap between her LP scores and those of her peers, it would be risky to use anyone else for that segment as well.

I listened to a podcast (can’t remember which) that said the top skater/team in each category got to choose whether to do one or both segments. Obviously Chris and Alexa didn’t get to choose. I think it might have been Adam’s book, actually. I just can’t remember.

 

[Minz]

I listened to a podcast (can’t remember which) that said the top skater/team in each category got to choose whether to do one or both segments. Obviously Chris and Alexa didn’t get to choose. I think it might have been Adam’s book, actually. I just can’t remember.

Yeah, I remember that Adam’s book said something like that. But anyway, you can only have up to 2 substitutions.

 

[NanaPat]

I listened to a podcast (can’t remember which) that said the top skater/team in each category got to choose whether to do one or both segments. Obviously Chris and Alexa didn’t get to choose. I think it might have been Adam’s book, actually. I just can’t remember.

The top skater in every category can't choose to do one segment, since only two "substitutions" are allowed. There may be some type of hierarchy within the categories, based on world standing.

For the overall good, it would be wise to take the skaters' preferences. the available substitutes and the schedule into account.

 

[mrrice]

You have to respect Bradie. She fought and clawed and scratched to get what she has gotten. On a personal level, it’s hard to root against her.

And your second paragraph outlines the dilemma; they know that at this point Bradie has reached her skating ceiling (ie she will be competitive at Worlds, Olympics, etc, but will be a long shot for the medals), but the chasing pack hasn’t been able to definitively push her out of the way.

The USFSA wouldn’t mind new faces getting a crack at it, but the changing of the guard that has been teased hasn’t occurred yet.

Now watch her win Nationals going away and defeating the youngers again. Same song, different verse. Haha

I think Bradie is very lucky that Isabeau is too young for the Olympic Team. Her unfortunate performances at worlds, plus her recent injury have really put her in a hole. She was so great at Nationals winning both segments that I would hate to see her off the podium. The way things look right now, Alysa and Lindsay could go 1-2 at Nationals but, I think Bradie is still the best of the Veterans. Time will tell. I'm just hoping she's ready to go to a GP before Nationals so that she/we can gauge where she is in her training. She certainly has BOW point in her favor if she were to finish fourth.

 

[chuckm]

I think Bradie is very lucky that Isabeau is too young for the Olympic Team. Her unfortunate performances at worlds, plus her recent injury have really put her in a hole. She was so great at Nationals winning both segments that I would hate to see her off the podium. The way things look right now, Alysa and Lindsay could 1-2 at Nationals but, I think Bradie is still the best of the Veterans. Time will tell. I'm just hoping she's ready to go to a GP before Nationals so that she/we can gauge where she is in her training. She certainly has BOW point in her favor if she were to finish fourth.

Just remember that Bradie's "unfortunate" performances at Worlds were due to the disintegration of her boots. Yet she did place high enough that with Karen's 4th place, 3 spots were regained.

 

[mrrice]

Just remember that Bradie's "unfortunate" performances at Worlds were due to the disintegration of her boots. Yet she did place high enough that with Karen's 4th place, 3 spots were regained.

You know, for the same reason I'd like to see Vincent go, I'd like to see Bradie go as well. I know that Karen beat her at Worlds and if Karen beats her again at Nationals, I think she should get the nod. She has 2 top 5 finishes at Worlds which should push her above Bradie if it comes to choosing between the 2.

 

[moonvine]

Amber tried one in the SP at Cranberry as well as last year at Nationals.

Wa just going to post this.

 

[dancelion21]

The top skater in every category can't choose to do one segment, since only two "substitutions" are allowed. There may be some type of hierarchy within the categories, based on world standing.

For the overall good, it would be wise to take the skaters' preferences. the available substitutes and the schedule into account.

I read somewhere that it's based on skaters' past international results. So in 2014, since Davis/White had the best international results of all the US skaters, they got first pick on whether to do one segment or both segments, they chose both segments. In 2018, I'm not sure whether it was Nathan or the Shibs who had first pick, but Nathan only wanted to do one segment while the Shibs wanted to do both, so they both got their desired divisions. In 2022, the ice dancers (whether it be Chock/Bates or Hubbell/Donohue) and Nathan will definitely have the first two picks. The ice dancers will likely want to do both sections while Nathan is probably more likely to prefer doing only one section since the men's final is only a few days after the team final. As such, afterward, it would probably be the ladies who get next pick, so then Alysa would likely choose for herself whether she wants to do one segment or both segments.

 

[Amei]

If Alysa ends up being as far ahead of the others as we think she will, it makes you wonder whether the USFSA will have her do both segments of the team event. With a 3A, she would be an obvious choice for the SP. However, if there is a big gap between her LP scores and those of her peers, it would be risky to use anyone else for that segment as well.

I think selecting Alysa to skate for both events needs to be done very carefully; had Lipnitskaia not skated both segments in the Team event she may not have been under such pressure and broke in the individual event.

You have to respect Bradie. She fought and clawed and scratched to get what she has gotten. On a personal level, it’s hard to root against her.

And your second paragraph outlines the dilemma; they know that at this point Bradie has reached her skating ceiling (ie she will be competitive at Worlds, Olympics, etc, but will be a long shot for the medals), but the chasing pack hasn’t been able to definitively push her out of the way.

The USFSA wouldn’t mind new faces getting a crack at it, but the changing of the guard that has been teased hasn’t occurred yet.

Now watch her win Nationals going away and defeating the youngers again. Same song, different verse. Haha

If the 'seasoned' seniors of the US ladies have lackluster seasons and Lindsey does good at Nationals I think the US Fed should look at giving Lindsay (in particular since she's attempting the triple axel) or Audrey a shot; its highly unlikely any of them outside of Alysa has a shot at the podium - so why not try some new blood at the event? Like you said we pretty much know what we are going to get from Bradie and Mariah and Amber.

 

[chuckm]

You will get nerve cases from Amber and Marian, but Bradie is one tough competitor.

 

[alexocfp]

I think selecting Alysa to skate for both events needs to be done very carefully; had Lipnitskaia not skated both segments in the Team event she may not have been under such pressure and broke in the individual event.




If the 'seasoned' seniors of the US ladies have lackluster seasons and Lindsey does good at Nationals I think the US Fed should look at giving Lindsay (in particular since she's attempting the triple axel) or Audrey a shot; its highly unlikely any of them outside of Alysa has a shot at the podium - so why not try some new blood at the event? Like you said we pretty much know what we are going to get from Bradie and Mariah and Amber.

I am of the opinion that you give younger skaters a chance to let them sink ot swim too.

But, none of them have been able to take Bradie‘s spot on the ice. The veteran has always found a way. Someone needs to step up and take the torch.

I said this previously: with the odds against her, watch her go out in January and become National champion again. She isn’t giving up that torch.

I think the national championship this year will have more intrigue than usual, since the feeling in the air is that the chasing pack is closing in fast.

 

[skatingiscool]

I am of the opinion that you give younger skaters a chance to let them sink ot swim too.

But, none of them have been able to take Bradie‘s spot on the ice. The veteran has always found a way. Someone needs to step up and take the torch.

I said this previously: with the odds against her, watch her go out in January and become National champion again. She isn’t giving up that torch.

I think the nationa championship this year will have more intrigue than usual, since the feeling in the air is that the chasing pack is closing in fast.

Can't wait GP to begin!! I'm looking forward to see Bradie's skate. Unpopular opinion here, I prefer to watch Bradie skating more than Mariah and Karen. I feel like Karen skates the same way in the past few years. Nothing more and nothing less. Mariah and Amber....hm.....are wonderful only if they skate clean in both SP and LP (occasionally). On the other hand, Bradie is constantly improving. Compared to Nationals 2018, Bradie has improved a TON! Her spins are faster, her skating speed is faster, her jumps are bigger....everything. What I also like Bradie is her unusual unique music choice, really stands out from the crowd (Russia/Korea/Japan/US).

 

[brightphoton]

I know we're all excited for Alysa, Lindsay, and Isabeau, but why are we already giving up on Bradie, Mariah, Amber, and Karen?