2021-2022 US Women's Figure Skating

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Skating Scores has a pretty great summary of how the US women are doing so far this season. Alysa dominates the top international event totals, as she has competed a lot and has been consistently delivering at each event. Isabeau Levito is also up there with her two impressive JGP showings. By taking the mean of all their scores, Alysa and Isabeau are in a tier of their own, both with means over 200. That's very impressive for Isabeau since junior skating is missing a few elements that senior skaters have, and she's able to hold her own with Alysa. Afterward, Lindsay, Amber, and Karen are all bunched together. Again, this is quite impressive for Lindsay, where her scores all come from the junior circuit while Amber and Karen are on the senior circuit.

 

[mrrice]

Looking at the judges scores from NHK, it's too bad Alysa missed her 3A in the SP. Had she landed it, she might have ended up with the silver medal. She has so much promise and I hope she fix her UR problem.

 

[skatingiscool]

Looking at the judges scores from NHK, it's too bad Alysa missed her 3A in the SP. Had she landed it, she might have ended up with the silver medal. She has so much promise and I hope she fix her UR problem.

Indeed, she can win silver if she lands 2A in SP.

 

[skatingiscool]

It really seems to me like doing the 3-3 has helped her PCS though. 69 PCS at finlandia vs. 66 at Worlds where she didn't have 3-3. Of all the skaters that were at both worlds and finlandia I think that's the highest jump.

well to be honest the withdrawals from NHK made it easier and the fact she still didn't podium wasn't great. She would have been 6th at Skate America and Italy with that score, 15 points from America silver and 24 points from Italy silver. The more important point for Alysa though is that the 202 is certainly beatable by Bradie, Mariah, Karen, Amber, and possibly Lindsay. Whereas if she is north of 210 the only one who can beat her is Bradie. Now its true the national panel will be more forgiving of her URs but they will be for Karen as well.

I agree that she shouldn't go for the 3A at the nationals, especially when she already placed 2nd at nationals short program last year with a score of 76. With Bradie a huge question mark Alysa could certainly win the national short program even without 3A

How many times Amber and Karen score over 200 this season so far? Amber, Karen, and Mariah are inconsistent skaters and they don't score over 200 as often as Alysa and Bradie. Amber score over 200 only ONCE in international competitions throughout her whole career....I think. Lindsay and Isabeau are more promising and consistent skaters, it's more likely for both of them score over 200 at Nats.

 

[natsulian]

Alysa should probably opt for a 3A, 3Lo, 3Lz3T, 3F // 2A1Eu3S, 3F2A or 3F2T, and 3Lz layout. Considering how successful their 2A1Eu3S combination was, I think it makes sense to bring it back. Also, if Alysa places the 3Lz3T near the front of the program, then they might not be as tired and the combination will be rotated. At this point, Alysa is consistent enough that the main priority should be on cleaning up her jumps (and working on spins and other aspects of their skating as always).

 

[mrrice]

How many times Amber and Karen score over 200 this season so far? Amber, Karen, and Mariah are inconsistent skaters and they don't score over 200 as often as Alysa and Bradie. Amber score over 200 only ONCE in international competitions throughout her whole career....I think. Lindsay and Isabeau are more promising and consistent skaters, it's more likely for both of them score over 200 at Nats.

Following Nationals last year, I really thought Amber would prove everyone wrong and come out strong this season. Unfortunately, that hasn't happened. With Bradie out injured, I see Lindsay on the team along with another lady. Who that is......We'll just have to wait and see. Hopefully a Healthy Bradie.

 

[Thrashergurl]

I don’t think the USFSaA is putting pressure on Alysa to win NOW….based on some of these comments I think it’s the fans that have these expectations.

Alysa is the only American girl that consistently attempts the triple axel in competition. She knows she’ll need to to come close to being consider competitive on the international level. She has that competitive fire that has been lacking out the US women.

Her 4th place finish was above expectations here. The only big name to withdraw was Trusove. Daria isn’t a top Russian lady and she was just as much a wildcard as the others.

Give Alysa some credit. She probably won’t medal at the Olympics, but I wouldn’t count her out for a World medal if she cleans up some of her issues.

 

[elliana]

Who do you all think Alysa can beat intlly if she cleans up her jumps? Young You comes to mind. But let's say if all her jumps had been clean could she beat Kaori too?

Also domestically, aside from the 3A is Bradie capable of beating Alysa since both are doing complicated triple combos? Interested to hear your thoughts.

 

[katymay]

I don’t think the USFSaA is putting pressure on Alysa to win NOW….based on some of these comments I think it’s the fans that have these expectations.

Alysa is the only American girl that consistently attempts the triple axel in competition. She knows she’ll need to to come close to being consider competitive on the international level. She has that competitive fire that has been lacking out the US women.

Her 4th place finish was above expectations here. The only big name to withdraw was Trusove. Daria isn’t a top Russian lady and she was just as much a wildcard as the others.

Give Alysa some credit. She probably won’t medal at the Olympics, but I wouldn’t count her out for a World medal if she cleans up some of her issues.

 

[Greengemmonster]

Who do you all think Alysa can beat intlly if she cleans up her jumps? Young You comes to mind. But let's say if all her jumps had been clean could she beat Kaori too?

Also domestically, aside from the 3A is Bradie capable of beating Alysa since both are doing complicated triple combos? Interested to hear your thoughts.

3A or no 3A? Would be VERY different depending on the situation.

That's a bit of a tough one. I think the judges really punish Alysa in terms of GOE and Young You has very high looking jumps (to my untrained eyes). Young You also seemed pretty darn expressive in terms of performance at her latest outing. Alysa had that over her in the past but probably not anymore.

Kaori is a favorite with the judges and it just seems like she flies out of the rink practically so she would get good GOE.

I think Alysa would need to make her jumps bigger and be spotless. But if the other two are spotless too it's pretty dicey.

Spotless with 3A Alysa will win unless Young is clean with a 3A as well.

Mind you people are rarely clean though!

 

[ucrgirl]

Following Nationals last year, I really thought Amber would prove everyone wrong and come out strong this season. Unfortunately, that hasn't happened. With Bradie our injured, I see Lindsay on the team along with another lady. Who that is......We'll just have to wait and see. Hopefully a Healthy Bradie.

Lindsay is intriguing because it seems that she always skates strong. I know that she is juniorish and getting Junior scores but her consistency is very attractive when most of the US ladies are having up-and-down seasons. If Lindsay has strong skates at the JGPF (she's going to the final, right?), I would expect a PCS bump at nationals. She may find herself at the Olympics.

 

[dancelion21]

Lindsay is intriguing because it seems that she always skates strong. I know that she is juniorish and getting Junior scores but her consistency is very attractive when most of the US ladies are having up-and-down seasons. If Lindsay has strong skates at the JGPF (she's going to the final, right?), I would expect a PCS bump at nationals. She may find herself at the Olympics.

Lindsay has two more competitions before US Nationals. She will be competing on the Challenger series next week, which will be her only senior level competition. Then, she will be at the Junior Grand Prix Final.

 

[drivingmissdaisy]

Her 4th place finish was above expectations here. The only big name to withdraw was Trusove. Daria isn’t a top Russian lady and she was just as much a wildcard as the others.

If Alysa matched her score from any other event this season, she would have won silver. Trusova, Kihira, and Usacheva all would have likely finished ahead of the 2nd place skater, so based on the field that actually participated I think Alysa underperformed. It doesn't matter because she's far ahead of the other Americans, and even her score and her placement at NHK further solidified her position at the top because it was yet another event she held herself together (which we're not seeing from the other American women).

 

[moonvine]

Everyone seems to be totally overlooking Mariah. We’ve seen her current short once and that was at a US competition. I know she has been inconsistent in the past but look forward to seeing how she skates in her GP assignments.

 

[readernick]

Everyone seems to be totally overlooking Mariah. We’ve seen her current short once and that was at a US competition. I know she has been inconsistent in the past but look forward to seeing how she skates in her GP assignments.

Yes, we will see. I think she is a better competitor than Amber and, hopefully, not injured. She also rotates her jumps better than Karen. Neither can seem to rotate 3-3s but Mariah usually doesn't underrotate her single jumps. She has scored over 200 quite a few times. Certainly, more than Amber or Karen. We will see how she does the next two weeks. I would be happy if she made the team since she has never been to the Olympics.

 

[yelyoh]

Yes, we will see. I think she is a better competitor than Amber and, hopefully, not injured. She also rotates her jumps better than Karen. Neither can seem to rotate 3-3s but Mariah usually doesn't underrotate her single jumps. She has scored over 200 quite a few times. Certainly, more than Amber or Karen. We will see how she does the next two weeks. I would be happy if she made the team since she has never been to the Olympics.

Yeah I'm in her corner as far as the Olympics go. Hoping for two good competitions now.

 

[katymay]

Everyone seems to be totally overlooking Mariah. We’ve seen her current short once and that was at a US competition. I know she has been inconsistent in the past but look forward to seeing how she skates in her GP assignments.

The field is wide open for her. If ever she had an opportunity, it is this year, and I honestly hope she makes the most of it.

 

[Bluediamonds09]

Well yeah. It is Alysa...and no one else. Gabby did well at her championship, but she is doing something wrong on all of her jumps where she isn't snapping into rotation quickly enough, and while she pulls them out, it is barely. It's a bummer to watch, because she has plenty of power in her legs.. It seems like something that could be fixed with off ice jump training/ropes rotation work. Karen-with the UR's, and a program I'm sick to death of. Amber-well that was a mess today, and she really needed to skate well. Lindsay has perfect jumps, but it like she is pondering the exact physics of each one before she jumps. If Lindsay had a year, I think she would be a huge threat to make the team, all the parts are there, she just hasn't connected them yet. Everything she does is well done, but she skates so carefully and slowly and fails to command the ice. I guess at this point we all must pray that Mariah is back and ready to compete, and that Brady can heal and return to her former self. Our senior ladies this year-except for Alysa-are the least competitive ever I think.

"Lindsay looks as if she's pondering the exact physics of each one before she jumps" is the right way to put it. Unfortunately, she skates very methodically and cautiously. But at this point, she just might be a good 3rd option for the team.

 

[ManyCairns]

Everyone seems to be totally overlooking Mariah. We’ve seen her current short once and that was at a US competition. I know she has been inconsistent in the past but look forward to seeing how she skates in her GP assignments.

Not me! I said a few pages upthread that Mariah could come in at the end of the GP series and turn this largely lackluster season around for the US women. If she can skate her best, of course. But the opportunity is there for the taking! And would leave her in magnificent shape for team selection.

 

[R.D.]

I don’t think the USFSaA is putting pressure on Alysa to win NOW….based on some of these comments I think it’s the fans that have these expectations.

Yes…only the fans, pundits, the media circus, etc.

If for some reason she is not at her best now - I would see that as a good thing in a way. This has played out before. The less pressure, the better…

I would actually be more concerned if she were dominating at this point, to be honest.