2023-24 Canadian Figure Skating

[4everchan]

Again I say Bruce Waddell should do pairs. Looks like Meagan Duhamel agrees with me in her X post.

Bruce could simply go back to ice dance.... I suggest Emy Bronsard for him I know Jacob Richmond disagrees but yeah

 

[4everchan]

The team for 4CC has been announced..

a surprise included.

Skate Canada Names Teams for 2024 ISU Championships

CALGARY, AB (January 14, 2024) – Following the completion of [...]

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Women
Sara-Maude Dupuis
Justine Miclette
Madeline Schizas


Men
Wesley Chiu
Conrad Orzel
Roman Sadovsky


Pair
Kelly Ann Laurin & Loucas Éthier
Lia Pereira & Trennt Michaud
Deanna Stellato-Dudek & Maxime Deschamps


Ice Dance
Laurence Fournier Beaudry & Nikolaj Soerensen
Marjorie Lajoie & Zachary Lagha
Piper Gilles & Paul Poirier



Team for junior worlds
2024 ISU WORLD JUNIOR FIGURE SKATING CHAMPIONSHIPS
TAIPEI CITY, TAIPEI: FEBURARY 26 – MARCH 3, 2024


Women
Lulu Lin
Kaiya Ruiter


Men
Anthony Paradis
Aleksa Rakic


Pair
Ava Kemp & Yohnatan Elizarov
Martina Ariano Kent & Charly Laliberté-Laurent


Ice Dance
Alisa Korneva & Kieran MacDonald
Chloe Nguyen & Brendan Giang
Layla Veillon & Alexander Brandys

Team for worlds is probably pending on 4CC results...

 

[4everchan]

@RatedPG ^^

 

[4everchan]

To me,
the selection is fine.

They are making the 3 4CC men fight off for the two worlds spots. Considering Stephen's injury it makes sense to focus on the other 3.
Aleksa isn't ready for seniors and gets assigned directly for Junior worlds with Anthony. I think it's a good decision.

For women, we know the story. Kaiya is going to YOG so no 4CC for her. They preferred keeping her "junior" in the second half of the season instead of playing the "race to tech minimums" with her.

Pairs and dance selections are respecting logic.

I am happy for Marly. I can see how some fans may be disappointed about Jazmine and Kieran but at the same time, their lack of SBS jumps and throws is just not good enough for an ISU championship. They can benefit from the time off.


Worlds selection TBA is a good idea here. I also like how they didn't bother just naming the "safe bets" for worlds... There were lots of criticism with the partial announcement.

So bravo Skate Canada... to me, that's pretty solid

 

[Reverie]

To me,
the selection is fine.

They are making the 3 4CC men fight off for the two worlds spots. Considering Stephen's injury it makes sense to focus on the other 3.
Aleksa isn't ready for seniors and gets assigned directly for Junior worlds with Anthony. I think it's a good decision.

For women, we know the story. Kaiya is going to YOG so no 4CC for her. They preferred keeping her "junior" in the second half of the season instead of playing the "race to tech minimums" with her.

Pairs and dance selections are respecting logic.

I am happy for Marly. I can see how some fans may be disappointed about Jazmine and Kieran but at the same time, their lack of SBS jumps and throws is just not good enough for an ISU championship. They can benefit from the time off.


Worlds selection TBA is a good idea here. I also like how they didn't bother just naming the "safe bets" for worlds... There were lots of criticism with the partial announcement.

So bravo Skate Canada... to me, that's pretty solid

I agree the selections are solid. I think the hardest decision would have been who to send as the second Junior lady. Hopefully a health rivalry at the Canadian Ice Academy.

 

[4everchan]

I agree the selections are solid. I think the hardest decision would have been who to send as the second Junior lady. Hopefully a health rivalry at the Canadian Ice Academy.

Hetty is probably first alternate... so they better remain friendly

 

[rain]

To me,
the selection is fine.

They are making the 3 4CC men fight off for the two worlds spots. Considering Stephen's injury it makes sense to focus on the other 3.
Aleksa isn't ready for seniors and gets assigned directly for Junior worlds with Anthony. I think it's a good decision.

For women, we know the story. Kaiya is going to YOG so no 4CC for her. They preferred keeping her "junior" in the second half of the season instead of playing the "race to tech minimums" with her.

Pairs and dance selections are respecting logic.

I am happy for Marly. I can see how some fans may be disappointed about Jazmine and Kieran but at the same time, their lack of SBS jumps and throws is just not good enough for an ISU championship. They can benefit from the time off.


Worlds selection TBA is a good idea here. I also like how they didn't bother just naming the "safe bets" for worlds... There were lots of criticism with the partial announcement.

So bravo Skate Canada... to me, that's pretty solid

Pretty much exactly what I would have done. I agree with the selections, and waiting to announce the senior worlds team. I'm sure the ones who are locks for it already know that and don't need an announcement to tell them so.

Interesting that they seem to think both Lajoie/Lagha and Fournier-Beaudry/Sorensen will be doing 4CC. I'm hoping that's a good sign on Marjorie's concussion recovery. It's a little sad that the silver and bronze medallists won't get a chance at the competition, but for the two teams who missed nationals they'll need the refresher before worlds, and will want to show the skating world that they're ready so there are no question marks. Missing 4CC really hurt Piper and Paul last season.

 

[saine]

The ISU entries have the subs too for 4CC:

Men
Matthew Newnham

Ice Dance
Nadiia Bashynska / Peter Beaumont
Alicia Fabbri / Paul Ayer
Marie-Jade Lauriault / Romain LeGac

None for women or pairs. I can see them using the ice dance subs depending on the situation, it could've helped if they hadn't done the partial announcement first.

I expected Roman to be named to 4CC once he was in the gala really. I'm glad that they've held off on naming the Worlds team since situations can change quickly. Also happy with the JWC team. They're not rushing Kaiya to get her senior minimums for the sake of having the champion at a home worlds and she'll have a better result at JWC where she can help earn the JGP spots for next season.

 

[4everchan]

The ISU entries have the subs too for 4CC:

Men
Matthew Newnham

Ice Dance
Nadiia Bashynska / Peter Beaumont
Alicia Fabbri / Paul Ayer
Marie-Jade Lauriault / Romain LeGac

None for women or pairs. I can see them using the ice dance subs depending on the situation, it could've helped if they hadn't done the partial announcement first.

I expected Roman to be named to 4CC once he was in the gala really. I'm glad that they've held off on naming the Worlds team since situations can change quickly. Also happy with the JWC team. They're not rushing Kaiya to get her senior minimums for the sake of having the champion at a home worlds and she'll have a better result at JWC where she can help earn the JGP spots for next season.

Yeah.. .they needed the subs for dance for sure. For pairs, it means Brooke and Ben are not going to be ready even for subbing. For women, there is almost nobody available left with minimums... so that's expected. For men, good that they named Matthew if ever something happens to the others.. At the same time, how does it work for visas ??? I wouldn't be surprised if subs were needed but didn't have enough time to get their paperwork ready.

 

[saine]

Yeah.. .they needed the subs for dance for sure. For pairs, it means Brooke and Ben are not going to be ready even for subbing. For women, there is almost nobody available left with minimums... so that's expected. For men, good that they named Matthew if ever something happens to the others.. At the same time, how does it work for visas ??? I wouldn't be surprised if subs were needed but didn't have enough time to get their paperwork ready.

I'm really interested in the logistics of the subs for the visas now. With Matthew/the ice dance teams, they have an advantage in that their coaches are already going to 4CC so their coaches will have visas. They must have something worked out for the sub visas. They could've named Fiona as a sub since Bruno Marcotte has a visa thanks to GPF, but I can see why they didn't.

 

[4everchan]

I'm really interested in the logistics of the subs for the visas now. With Matthew/the ice dance teams, they have an advantage in that their coaches are already going to 4CC so their coaches will have visas. They must have something worked out for the sub visas. They could've named Fiona as a sub since Bruno Marcotte has a visa thanks to GPF, but I can see why they didn't.

Fiona was too weak. Naming her as a sub : all that would do is to show how the others (Fée Ann or Audréanne for instance) don't have their tech minimums... and just bring more criticism.

 

[RatedPG]

@RatedPG ^^

OMG! When you mentioned surprise… I was thinking it would be a name on the Ladies list!

So, I was indeed surprised when I saw Roman’s name. Wow

No Aleksa. I think they gave Wesley the option and he picked the SWC route. Aleksa is needed by Skate Canada at Junior Worlds I guess. But, Matthew also deserved this over Roman. I guess it pays to be on the National team and Stephen must be really injured. Im so SURPRISED

Wow!! My year is not over.

We can now watch both our guys compete at 4CC. We can suffer some more…. .

They really need to improve their SB scores. I’m hoping they can score at least high 220s for GP spots next season. Also, will hope that they both beat Wesley to see them at SWC. Wouldn’t that be something? And then we can suffer and one final time

 

[4everchan]

OMG! When you mentioned surprise… I was thinking it would be a name on the Ladies list!


Wow!! My year is not over.

HAHA.. it's never over !

We can now watch both our guys compete at 4CC. We can suffer some more…. .

that's the spirit... suffering

They really need to improve their SB scores. I’m hoping they can score at least high 220s for GP spots next season. Also, will hope that they both beat Wesley to see them at SWC. Wouldn’t that be something? And then we can suffer and be final time

well it that happens, I would obviously be happy... nothing against Wesley but I simply prefer getting Conrad and Roman with my very expensive tickets for worlds

 

[eterislouisvuitton]

Bruce could simply go back to ice dance.... I suggest Emy Bronsard for him I know Jacob Richmond disagrees but yeah

What about Dana Sabantini Speciale? Nicholas would lose three years of junior eligibility if they stayed together, and their height difference is also quite something for a pairs team, much less a dance team.

 

[eterislouisvuitton]

If they really want JWC spots, Stephen or Wesley could probably win JWC on a good day. Having a good day is a big ask, but it's an option since the junior men's field isn't really deep or consistent right now. I wonder if Stephen is still in the running for Senior WC.

 

[4everchan]

What about Dana Sabantini Speciale? Nicholas would lose three years of junior eligibility if they stayed together, and their height difference is also quite something for a pairs team, much less a dance team.

The real move would be for Dana to become a pairs girl. She is super short. Nicholas is too tall for her that's for sure. I don't think Bruce wants to do pairs nor dance. I mean, at this point, considering his skating skills and partnering skills, he just isn't interested or else he would be doing it.... that's my take on it... Maybe he didn't like lifts or whatever ?

 

[4everchan]

If they really want JWC spots, Stephen or Wesley could probably win JWC on a good day. Having a good day is a big ask, but it's an option since the junior men's field isn't really deep or consistent right now. I wonder if Stephen is still in the running for Senior WC.

Stephen didn't want to go to JWC last year. He preferred being in the running for a world spot. He didn't get it.
This year, it seems like he is way too injured to be in the running for anything. Worlds are in about 10 weeks... His injury seems relatively serious.

 

[RatedPG]

HAHA.. it's never over !

that's the spirit... suffering

well it that happens, I would obviously be happy... nothing against Wesley but I simply prefer getting Conrad and Roman with my very expensive tickets for worlds

FYI. I was a bit upset with Roman’s free skate. I clapped when he landed the 3Lz 3T… gasped when he popped his 4S to a 2S, but, clapped when I saw him add the 2A as a combo. Then, was confused when I saw him land the 3Lo so easily and then add a eu to a 3S where he fell… I don’t know if this is a combo I approve of as the 3Lo eu to 3S required too much rotation. It is better for him to do a 3Lz eu 3S instead. Or 2A eu 3S
Instead. I wish I was his coach. Leave the 3Lo alone as a single jump. Then, I saw him go for a 2A and was glad… but, thought, why didn’t you do the eu 3S here….. and I was getting angry

Then, second half… the 4S fall, I was glad he tried though. But, then remembered with his popped 4S, he can add another triple instead to his combo instead of just a 2T. When he landed a rough 3Lz, it’s fine. But, then he just went for a 3F and forgot to add the 3T (I would have been okay with just a 2T)… I thought, you need to fight for as many points as possible.

Then, when Matthew beat Roman by less than two points, I thought he could have finished 5th ahead of Matthew… if he can just think on his feet.

Skate Canada really does love Roman!! Our federation gets a +1 from me now. He has one more life line now…

 

[saine]

If they really want JWC spots, Stephen or Wesley could probably win JWC on a good day. Having a good day is a big ask, but it's an option since the junior men's field isn't really deep or consistent right now. I wonder if Stephen is still in the running for Senior WC.

Stephen doesn't have the junior minimums anymore and I don't think he'd be in shape to get them after his performance on Friday. He needs to sit the rest of the season out, his health is more important than results at a championship.

Aleksa and Anthony probably won't win, but Aleksa's improved his consistency thanks to his marathon of summer competitions and Anthony's really worked on getting his jumps more consistent. I'm happy with their selection to JWC.

 

[4everchan]

FYI. I was a bit upset with Roman’s free skate. I clapped when he landed the 3Lz 3T… gasped when he popped his 4S to a 2S, but, clapped when I saw him add the 2A as a combo. Then, was confused when I saw him land the 3Lo so easily and then add a eu to a 3S where he fell… I don’t know if this is a combo I approve of as the 3Lo eu to 3S required too much rotation. It is better for him to do a 3Lz eu 3S instead. Or 2A eu 3S
Instead. I wish I was his coach. Leave the 3Lo alone as a single jump. Then, I saw him go for a 2A and was glad… but, thought, why didn’t you do the eu 3S here….. and I was getting angry

Then, second half… the 4S fall, I was glad he tried though. But, then remembered with his popped 4S, he can add another triple instead to his combo instead of just a 2T. When he landed a rough 3Lz, it’s fine. But, then he just went for a 3F and forgot to add the 3T (I would have been okay with just a 2T)… I thought, you need to fight for as many points as possible.

Then, when Matthew beat Roman by less than two points, I thought he could have finished 5th ahead of Matthew… if he can just think on his feet.

Skate Canada really does love Roman!! Our federation gets a +1 from me now. He has one more life line now…

Roman is a cat... nine lives... I am not sure how many he has used up already. Honestly, I have no idea about his combos at this point... His program was a hot mess ! Let's hope the skaters appreciate the trust Skate Canada has put into them and use it.