2024-25 British and Irish figure skating

[pesto]

In dance, it's possible that Britain could end up in a similar anomolous position to Germany here... 2 spots qualified by the aggregate of our two teams being less than 28, but Phebe and James ending in 20th position and freezing out the 19th. Of course, that depends on them qualifying for the FP in the first place, which is touch n go.

 

[FlossieH]

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That's what fits with what I previously understood. What people are saying now is that if a country is eligible to qualify 1+1 spot, the +1 is removed from the Worlds quota and added to the Beijing qualifier.

 

[pesto]

That's what fits with what I previously understood. What people are saying now is that if a country is eligible to qualify 1+1 spot, the +1 is removed from the Worlds quota and added to the Beijing qualifier.

I don't think that is right. At least, it isn't how I interpreted it, or Jackie Wong:

"After the automatic 2 and automatic 3 spots have been allocated, the remainder of the quota spots available at Worlds will be allocated to the countries that did not qualify spots in order of placement until the spots run out"

 

[FlossieH]

I don't think that is right. At least, it isn't how I interpreted it, or Jackie Wong:

"After the automatic 2 and automatic 3 spots have been allocated, the remainder of the quota spots available at Worlds will be allocated to the countries that did not qualify spots in order of placement until the spots run out"

Okay. I will go back to my original understanding. The information was coming from posters who normally know what they are talking about, so it made me doubt myself!

 

[pesto]

I sure hope this is right! It is what I understood, and then Jackie's analysis confirmed it.

It seems the most logical - basically the best top 16 competitors, with a slight fudge for nations with depth.

 

[pesto]

So... Ana and Luke, maintain your place in the top 16, pretty please!

 

[pesto]

In some cases, there may be additional spots added to Beijing.

Here, that might happen if the Finns stay top 16 but don't have citizenship.

In men's it's easy to imagine a scenario where all three US men make the free, but the top two don't get <=13 points (eg Malinin 1, Torgashev 14). Then they only get 2 spots, so there is one extra available in Beijing, as only 23 spots in total would be awarded here.

 

[FlossieH]

In some cases, there may be additional spots added to Beijing.

Here, that might happen if the Finns stay top 16 but don't have citizenship.

In men's it's easy to imagine a scenario where all three US men make the free, but the top two don't get <=13 points (eg Malinin 1, Torgashev 14). Then they only get 2 spots, so there is one extra available in Beijing, as only 23 spots in total would be awarded here.

All of the US skaters so far have had rather inflated scores, with the exception of Efimova/Mitrofanov. This was particularly so in the singles event yesterday.

 

[pesto]

All of the US skaters so far have had rather inflated scores, with the exception of Efimova/Mitrofanov. This was particularly so in the singles event yesterday.

Yeah, home cooking is the norm... but they have to give the judges something to work with.

It's entirely possible that US gets their >=13 in men's, even without significant home cooking, and I rather hope they do. I like Andrew and Jason, and hope they skate well.

But, a scenario where they don't make it is quite plausible.

 

[pesto]

The only way I see that the cut off could be harsher, is if Canada gets their third spot and the Germans don't have a redemption skate.

ATM, Canada are on for two, which takes the cut down to 17, but Germany are also on for two, which brings it back up to 16.

If Canada's top two both rise a couple of places (or an equivalent result), and Annika and Robert remain in the bottom 4, the cut rises to 15.

If Canada doesn't get a third spot, and Annika and Robert rise to at least 17, the cut is 17.

Otherwise, it's 16.

 

[CelticRose22]

Pairs qualifying was always likely to be the most complicated given the number of spots + citizenship issues for some pairs. Someone like Jackie Wong or Skating Scores needs to do a tally on Passports for Olympics.

Even if some additional spots get added for Beijing it's going to be hellishly difficult to qualify there.

 

[FlossieH]

Pairs qualifying was always likely to be the most complicated given the number of spots + citizenship issues for some pairs. Someone like Jackie Wong or Skating Scores needs to do a tally on Passports for Olympics.

Even if some additional spots get added for Beijing it's going to be hellishly difficult to qualify there.

Agreed. The Russian ('neutral' athlete) pair and the Chinese pair moving up from juniors are pretty much guaranteed to qualify there, which makes it really difficult for anyone else.

 

[Ruthypegs]

Some rare newspaper coverage of figure skating, featuring Lilah and Lewis - https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2...gh-as-chock-and-bates-chase-ice-dance-history

 

[pesto]

Shame for Ed. His SB would have gone through, but he had to be squeaky clean, and he wasn't.

 

[pesto]

I suppose build up for next year starts now... Olympics, with L&L in the hunt for a medal, even though they're not favourites to get one. A possibility of qualifying for the team event. And home Europeans in Sheffield.

Could be figure skating's most high profile year in the UK for ages.

 

[FlossieH]

Ed gets another chance at the Beijing qualifier. It is an extremely slim chance, but still a chance. Korea will likely be trying to qualify a second spot there, and potentially France a third one, plus there will be skaters coming up from juniors, so the competition will be tough.

 

[CelticRose22]

Ed was always the least likely of the Brits to qualify but needed to be clean to give himself a chance. Alas.

Will be tough to qualify in Beijing

 

[FlossieH]

Ed was always the least likely of the Brits to qualify but needed to be clean to give himself a chance. Alas.

Will be tough to qualify in Beijing

Yes, it will.

One thing I hadn't realised was that he changed coaches after Euros and now skates out of Swindon like Kristen Spours does. Worlds was a tall order so soon after that sort of change. Let's see what happens after the summer. Chris Boyadji seems to have made a big difference with Kristen.

 

[NanaPat]

That's what fits with what I previously understood. What people are saying now is that if a country is eligible to qualify 1+1 spot, the +1 is removed from the Worlds quota and added to the Beijing qualifier.

"What people are saying" is not true. There was confusion over this, but it was clarified in 2021. The +1 is not a "spot to be confirmed", it's an opportunity to earn a spot at the qualifier. All 16 spots actually earned at Worlds are given out at Worlds. No skater in free, no spot given.

The only spots that can end up being redistributed to the qualifier are spots that a country earns but can't fill. For example, if Finland earns a pair spot but doesn't end up with an eligible team, the spot will be returned and filled at the qualifier. If it's returned after the qualifier has taken place, the highest result from the qualifier that didn't get a spot there will prevail.

 

[pesto]

Well, getting ready for the Beijing Qualifier is a very clear goal for Ed, at least.