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Sui/Han, I'm impressed how high they finished with the errors. Imagine if they had been clean!
They would've won Silver if they hit the 3Toe in the SP and did planned double jumps in the LP. I would've had them training 2Lz as their solo jump, 3Sal was never going to happen, and 2F+2A+2A also would have been good for them, since it was always highly unlikely the 3Toe+2A+2A would be clean.
 
I think isn't new the bias of judges like the French ones that on ice dance.i think the solution would be choose judges of countries that aren't competing and a bias test (a psychological test that show if a person is prone to bias)

I'm watching FS and Deanna Stellato -Dudek and Maxime Deschamps did a flawless FS , first time in months that didn't made any error :clap::clap:, begun to watch it so later will do more comments
 
Rewatch of Hase/Volodin...
Mistakes notwithstanding, they were so utterly beautiful.

Johnny W said they're "soft" on the ice and IMO that's spot on. They reminded me a bit of the great Russian pairs -- highest praise I can give! Hope we get to see a lot more of them.
 
So, my question is...was Riku Miura/Ryuichi Kihara better than them? (I haven't seen them skate yet, but it was a world record!).
I know this is impossible to compare as the judging is totally different now...can you really compare them?
The world record doesn't include programs when 6.0 was used. But M&D would not be competitive for gold today as they skated in 1992. I don't think she ever landed a clean, rotated triple (solo, not throw), and the current pairs get a lot of points for their three jumps combos. The lifts were also not nearly as difficult as they are now. However, I think pairs back then had to do forward death spirals in the SP which you almost never see today. That said, I think the best pairs back then would have adapted to the current system if that was what they grew up under, and pairs like M&D and G&G were immensely talented.
 
I don’t see cookie cutter. Cookie cutter were what I would call many of the elements in 6.0… look at the variety of lift positions and death spiral/throw entries. Twists are higher and higher and with footwork leading into them. Pairs skaters were also stiffer and less expressive and the warhorses were abundant.
I'm not a big pairs fan so I don't watch them a lot. But I watched this entire event and I agree the programs are pretty much "cookie cutter." In addition, I think the elements dominate so much that there is little room for performance or presentation. The goal is just to skate clean. I didn't see anything that had the performance qualities of, for instance, Shen and Zhao's long program at 2003 Worlds.
 
I haven't been able to watch the Olympics live - my best friend is recording all the skating they show on Sky Sports. But after being depressed all day with what happened in the SP, I saw the pairs free result on FB just now and wish I had believed in them more! I am so happy for RikuRyu!!! I can't wait to watch the replay this weekend! :yahoo::jump:
 
What slightly bothers me about the Japanese pair: their programs never seem to reflect their personalities, but of their coaches. I feel like I've never gotten to know them.
Pity you don't follow the Japanese media. You hear a lot about them there.
 
They would've won Silver if they hit the 3Toe in the SP and did planned double jumps in the LP. I would've had them training 2Lz as their solo jump, 3Sal was never going to happen, and 2F+2A+2A also would have been good for them, since it was always highly unlikely the 3Toe+2A+2A would be clean.
Wouldn't it just be the sequence for the LP? But I guess I'd have had them train a different solo jump too to test out the waters in the SP. If they did fine with the 3T, great, keep it in the LP. Otherwise, yeah, maybe switch it out for 2Lz.
 
The current procedure is that ISU draws the countries and then the Federations nominate the judges.

The Chinese judge on the panel tonight was also suspended for 2 years in 2018 for her scores to Boyang at 2018 Olympics.
I think the Chinese judge at 2022 for Pairs was even specifically the judge suspended for Pairs? Honestly sad part is that the judges only got caught. There must be others who are cleverer with it and don't. The way "bias" is judged is also rather perfunctory with the ISU, and more than likely subject to politics to begin with.

Sadder though is that it won't take too much effort to fix. Instead of letting feds nominate judges, the central body should, after conducting review. That's probably all it'll take.
 
Would record? Really? Obviously, the judges were working hard to pull Japanese on the top after their SP results.
 
Wouldn't it just be the sequence for the LP?
I don't know what you mean.

For me they 100% never should have been trying to do 3Sal in the LP, that should have been replaced with 2Lz, and then additionally the 3T in their LP very probably should have been downgraded to 2F, in order to do the cleanest +2A+2A possible. They could've scored in the 140's with that.
 
OMG Simon saying From russia :wonder2:

I've just reached that point, and although he has made mistakes, in this case I think you are doing Simon a dis-service.

What you quoted was only part of what he said:

"So now the couple from Georgia. They, like the Hungarians, from Russia".

I think it was the long dramatic pauses that caught you out. Well, he is from a famous acting family, after all.

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