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don’t tell anyone how old I truly am, let’s pretend it was on in the early 2000s [emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]
Won’t work...everyone was watching Passions at that time :agree:
Alina Zagitova
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Won’t work...everyone was watching Passions at that time :agree:
I disagree. TAT has now given two interviews where the gist is "Zhenya - good, Alina - bad." In the same interview where she talks about Alina not having fire in her eyes, she said that Zhenya doesn't need to participate in the Russian Nationals, because everyone knows who she is already.
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I agree 100%. Well said.
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A couple thousand comments later you are coming to my words ...
French rap is nice. I want to see some la rage from Alina for the next world title.
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Let's say that the early 2000s was a good season for TV nostalgia
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Have you seen the last minutes of this fancam? https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=123&v=hRnxASxGqZE
Daniil stayed with her after her performance and seemed to be comforting her
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Daniil stayed with her after her performance and seemed to be comforting her
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Let's say that the early 2000s was a good season for TV nostalgia
Not 2000s
1994 — Friends in the air !!!!
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ko-pFBY5kG8
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Have you seen the last minutes of this fancam? https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=123&v=hRnxASxGqZE
Daniil stayed with her after her performance and seemed to be comforting her
Yes, and respect to operator and assistant , don’t filming how she crying
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Yes - that was nice on their part not to film.
Ok, I admit I'm not a fan of the programs, but if it's executed well than I can overlook the aesthetics. But watching Alina skate those test skates, I feel like she is overthinking the program. It reminds me of her world's performance, I remember watching it and, before she even fell, thinking , "Man, she looks flat".
Yes, I'm going to give her the benefit of the doubt, at worlds, she had the flu, post olympics fatigue, etc, and the same for test skates, it's too early, she hasn't had enough time to fully practice the routines.
I'm probably projecting, but ,personally, I think there are external factors that are working against her. Last year and this year are two totally different seasons. It's a different mentality to reach for a goal vs holding unto the goal. The OGM is heavy burden.
The whole Eteri vs Med or Alina vs Med isn't going away anytime soon. If she falters early in the season and the juniors continue to excel, I'm worried she will begin to feel like a placeholder until Sasha, Anna, and Alena come of age.
Darya, Polina, and ,even, Med leaving weren't good for her. I think it helps to have friends you can commiserate with when practices or competitions don't go well. It also doesn't help that she doesn't live with her parents or sister, someone close that you can rely one no matter how you skate.
Yes, I'm going to give her the benefit of the doubt, at worlds, she had the flu, post olympics fatigue, etc, and the same for test skates, it's too early, she hasn't had enough time to fully practice the routines.
I'm probably projecting, but ,personally, I think there are external factors that are working against her. Last year and this year are two totally different seasons. It's a different mentality to reach for a goal vs holding unto the goal. The OGM is heavy burden.
The whole Eteri vs Med or Alina vs Med isn't going away anytime soon. If she falters early in the season and the juniors continue to excel, I'm worried she will begin to feel like a placeholder until Sasha, Anna, and Alena come of age.
Darya, Polina, and ,even, Med leaving weren't good for her. I think it helps to have friends you can commiserate with when practices or competitions don't go well. It also doesn't help that she doesn't live with her parents or sister, someone close that you can rely one no matter how you skate.
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Sorry for the huge post....
My two passions collided (tennis and Alina) but not in a good way this weekend. I wouldn't call figure skating a passion yet since what I know about it would fit the intro in a current Time Magazine issue, if you haven't seen one in a while it is now so slim that you risk breaking your hand if you try to swat a fly with it.
But, I call Alina a passion, she makes me want to watch everything she does, from trainings, to shows, to practices, to test skates and, finally, to competitions. Because of her I've watched more POTO than I have since the last time I had relatives in town and had to go see that (for what felt like the 20000000 time) show on Broadway. I'm sure before the year is done I'll be happily humming those tunes. All thanks to Alina.
OK, back to that bad world's colliding. Went to watch the US Open finals live at the stadium (women's and men's) an old family tradition and this year I was super happy, because I'm a Serena fan and I was super excited to see her match. Well, what I ended up watching made me feel so bad, and made me think of Alina quite a lot. Seeing the winner, Osaka, get booed into tears both at the end of the match and again in the victory ceremony was as hard as it was unexpected (never seen a crowd boo any winner at the Open ceremony before). She won fair and square, other off play game developments notwithstanding, but the crowd only stopped booing at the victory ceremony after Serena took the mike and asked them to. BTW Osaka won the Miami Open this year, playing against Serena, but this was her first Grand Slam win and also a first one ever for Japan. Seeing a 20 year old keep her cool during a tough match and then cry and cry as she won broke me inside a bit.
That whole affair, and the recent comments, made me redirect that whole feeling and think back to Alina. She was never booed to her face, and in fact was super cheered at test skates, but having to deal with heavy criticism at the tender age of 16, on her second senior year and after having won the highest tittle a skater can ever get, must not be easy. She expects great things from herself and not performing to her best, even at such an inconsequential event like test skates (which is inconsequential this year since it now defines neither financial support nor GP assignments, and she probably gets feedback from them at Sambo often), was hard for her. I was not expecting her to be perfect, her falls didn't bother me as signs of impending doom (if falls were signs of impending doom no one would skate, or win an event like Nathan Chen did after having those SP performances at the Olympic Games, followed by a redeeming FS btw). I wish she could shrug it off like some of the guys do when they have a bad day (I'm thinking of Chen and Kolyada here), but she is build differently and she feels it to her core. This is probably part of why she is such a great competitor, she is also younger than most and I'm sure that as she competes more and more in the demanding senior circuit it will eventually get to the point where she'll be able to cope better with pressure and less that ideal performances.
You peak somewhere in the season and all that, but you also improve on a curve, the more you do something the better you get at doing it. She has 3 new programs this season (one is an EX but still) and as she performs them she'll get better at doing so. Her layout is not the layout of a girl on her second year in the senior circuit, it is the very demanding and hard layout of one of the best figure skaters out there (THE best one for me, for sure). I'm glad she is doing a CS competition, it will allow her to grow into the program, get into the competition stride and take it all in with calm. She should look back to the Olympics before her win, when she was out to have fun and even show off a bit, laughing along as she wowed the world.
My two passions collided (tennis and Alina) but not in a good way this weekend. I wouldn't call figure skating a passion yet since what I know about it would fit the intro in a current Time Magazine issue, if you haven't seen one in a while it is now so slim that you risk breaking your hand if you try to swat a fly with it.
But, I call Alina a passion, she makes me want to watch everything she does, from trainings, to shows, to practices, to test skates and, finally, to competitions. Because of her I've watched more POTO than I have since the last time I had relatives in town and had to go see that (for what felt like the 20000000 time) show on Broadway. I'm sure before the year is done I'll be happily humming those tunes. All thanks to Alina.
OK, back to that bad world's colliding. Went to watch the US Open finals live at the stadium (women's and men's) an old family tradition and this year I was super happy, because I'm a Serena fan and I was super excited to see her match. Well, what I ended up watching made me feel so bad, and made me think of Alina quite a lot. Seeing the winner, Osaka, get booed into tears both at the end of the match and again in the victory ceremony was as hard as it was unexpected (never seen a crowd boo any winner at the Open ceremony before). She won fair and square, other off play game developments notwithstanding, but the crowd only stopped booing at the victory ceremony after Serena took the mike and asked them to. BTW Osaka won the Miami Open this year, playing against Serena, but this was her first Grand Slam win and also a first one ever for Japan. Seeing a 20 year old keep her cool during a tough match and then cry and cry as she won broke me inside a bit.
That whole affair, and the recent comments, made me redirect that whole feeling and think back to Alina. She was never booed to her face, and in fact was super cheered at test skates, but having to deal with heavy criticism at the tender age of 16, on her second senior year and after having won the highest tittle a skater can ever get, must not be easy. She expects great things from herself and not performing to her best, even at such an inconsequential event like test skates (which is inconsequential this year since it now defines neither financial support nor GP assignments, and she probably gets feedback from them at Sambo often), was hard for her. I was not expecting her to be perfect, her falls didn't bother me as signs of impending doom (if falls were signs of impending doom no one would skate, or win an event like Nathan Chen did after having those SP performances at the Olympic Games, followed by a redeeming FS btw). I wish she could shrug it off like some of the guys do when they have a bad day (I'm thinking of Chen and Kolyada here), but she is build differently and she feels it to her core. This is probably part of why she is such a great competitor, she is also younger than most and I'm sure that as she competes more and more in the demanding senior circuit it will eventually get to the point where she'll be able to cope better with pressure and less that ideal performances.
You peak somewhere in the season and all that, but you also improve on a curve, the more you do something the better you get at doing it. She has 3 new programs this season (one is an EX but still) and as she performs them she'll get better at doing so. Her layout is not the layout of a girl on her second year in the senior circuit, it is the very demanding and hard layout of one of the best figure skaters out there (THE best one for me, for sure). I'm glad she is doing a CS competition, it will allow her to grow into the program, get into the competition stride and take it all in with calm. She should look back to the Olympics before her win, when she was out to have fun and even show off a bit, laughing along as she wowed the world.
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Alina is a class act. Serena is not as her crazy actions saturday proved. Figure skating on the other hand is a sport of sportsmanship elegance and fairplay and Alina is the classiest act out there. But I agree with you that she needs to go back to her pre-olympic attitude. Right now the expectations are laying heavily on her ever since the world championships in Milan.
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I didn't realize this happened. What disgusting behavior. A big thank you to Serena Williams for putting a stop to it.
I hope these neanderthal goons went back home to their "loser" lives happy in the knowledge they made a 20 year old girl cry.
What an accomplishment - way to go tough guys!!!! Knuckle-draggers indeed.
As nasty and catty as certain FS fans can be (and GS is one of the nicest forums out there in that regard) - at least I have never witnessed booing of a skater by fans.
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This is not directed at you in any way - because I understand the use of the quotes....
I think the myth of people thinking Alina was "underserving" of the gold medal is just that - a myth.
If you factor out (in the USA) Christine Brennan and her sycophantic twitter sheep.
If you factor out "uber" fans whose lives depend on their favorite winning.
If you factor out some viewers who were convinced by announcers that a "jumping bean" beat an "artist"
In the big scheme of things - there are not that many.
IIRC at that time - I would say at least 90% (probably more) of what I saw on the internet supported the results.
In fact, I had heard so much about the backlash in Russia that Evgenia didn't win - but everything I saw from Russia seemed very supportive of Alina.
This was not the same as Yuna Kim losing to Adelina Sotnikova in 2014. Not even close.
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I remember that even when Zhenya was still with Eteri they didn't interact with each other during competitions. That is natural, they have to focus on themselves.
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That so called article seems to be just pure speculation with click-bait title (Alina and Zhenya did meet after the OG, at least at the shows where they interacted in their pre OG way). And yes, they never interacted at the competitions which is normal.
I so don't like when media create drama - it benefits no one, neither the girls (by creating unnecessary pressure) nor the fans.
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They did not boo her. They boo the officials and the referee. Fans have boo officials before. It is nothing new. It just should not have continued on so long in my opinion.
They did not boo her. They boo the officials and the referee. Fans have boo officials before. It is nothing new. It just should not have continued on so long in my opinion.
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Trying to bring some common sense into our emtional Alinka / Zhenya discussion, huh?
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