Anna Pogorilaya

[cathlen]

Oh, don't let Sugarpova hear you say that! She half killed me for describing Anna as Ukrainian a couple of months ago.

But, just between us, you know that comment I made during the Short Dance. Well, I was actually including Anna in that statement.

In fact, all you need to do is substitute Alisa's name for Anna's, and it would still be totally accurate! :agree:

So, how appropriate it is that they are together in this photo!

CaroLiza_fan

Nah, everybody knows Anna is Russian, I don't think Sugarpova would be that petty about my wording as I wanted to title girls together and both of them were born in Ukraine, that' all

 

[Totentanz]

I think it may be better for Anna to take a rest, stay away from the rink for a little while, calm down and then come back to full training for olympic season.

 

[OS]

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[MaiKatze]

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:sad21: I kind of wish to turn back time to 2012 when Leonova was the only Russian skater who was kind of in the mix. They would've killed for a skater like Anna back then. And now she can be tossed aside.

 

[CaroLiza_fan]

Nah, everybody knows Anna is Russian, I don't think Sugarpova would be that petty about my wording as I wanted to title girls together and both of them were born in Ukraine, that' all

Nah, I don't think she would be like that either. It was just a bit of banter between friends.

And don't worry, I liked your description.

Just a small correction, though. Alisa was born in Kharkov. Anna's parents are from Kharkov. But Anna herself came along after her parents moved to Russia.

But, to me, they're both Kharkov girls! :agree:

CaroLiza_fan

 

[OS]

:sad21: I kind of wish to turn back time to 2012 when Leonova was the only Russian skater who was kind of in the mix. They would've killed for a skater like Anna back then. And now she can be tossed aside.

Victim of politics. Head of fed may want to punish someone to show strength, so it was her. Max came 11th, he is going to WTT. They need to make way for Alina anyway, so any excuse might as well. NO room for error.

 

[Tyranid]

I want to thank the president of Finland and the president of the IOC for supporting Anna. It seems that you care and I hope that this is true. :agree:

 

[CaroLiza_fan]

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I don't know what to say!

She had one day when everything seemed to go wrong. ONE DAY.

When deciding on things like this, the Fed should be looking at the season as a whole. Or even the season from Nationals onwards. Not just the latest competition, where the result was skewed by a Free Skate where everything went wrong.

After all, the Short Programme went well. It was just one segment that went wrong.

When you look at it like this, not sending her because of how she did at Worlds doesn't make sense. So, I think they're just using it as an excuse to replace her.

I'm going to leave it there, in case I say something I regret. Because I am absolutely raging at this!

CaroLiza_fan

 

[russianfan]

official answer from fed
translation:
After the performance of Anna Pogorilaya in Helsinki, we decided to give time and opportunity for the athlete to move away from the psychological trauma and calmly prepare for the next season. According to the leaders of FFKKR and specialists, it would be difficult for Anna to start on the World Team Trophy, as there is not much time between this tournament and the World Cup, - reads the message of the federation. - There are no other reasons that were voiced in the media. And even more so, no one took into account the emotions after her free skate. All this is explainable and humanly understandable. The competition in the Russian women's team is very serious. On the eve of the Olympic Games it is necessary to allow the maximum number of athletes to prove themselves. So from this position, the replacement of the second number of the Russian team by Elena Radionova is quite logical. The rest of the Russian team is formed in accordance with the clear requirements of the competition.


P.S. also, speaking of Kovtun, i just don't see any other option. Trust me, they would replace him easily if they had any other decent option

 

[silverfoxes]

P.S. also, speaking of Kovtun, i just don't see any other option. Trust me, they would replace him easily if they had any other decent option

Sergei Voronov would be the perfect option...but I don't know if he is even training right now. How quickly people forget he did better during the GP than Kovtun or Kolyada...

And that answer from the Russian fed sounds like drivel to me. They had already made up their minds & didn't bother to contact her to see how she felt about going.

 

[MaiKatze]

Sergei Voronov would be the perfect option...but I don't know if he is even training right now. How quickly people forget he did better during the GP than Kovtun or Kolyada...

And that answer from the Russian fed sounds like drivel to me. They had already made up their minds & didn't bother to contact her to see how she felt about going.

Exactly. They are just trying to present a kind face to the outside world, but I bet you this has nothing to do with Anna's healing.

 

[Santey]

You cannot imagine how furious Russian fans about it! By the way, it's a monetary question after all and the Girl who worked the whole season and part of the last season so conscientiously and diligently is left out the board. Like she is very rich and doesn't need these money deserved for her worthy labour.

 

[UnNamed]

I think this is a strategic decision.
Anna had a bad worlds but an undoubtlely great season, and surely federation knows it.
Instead Radionova had a mixed performance, while Sotskova wasn't great in the european e world competitions.

I think the russian federation wants only to know if they can rely on Elena next year.

For me, a better choice would be Radionova AND Pogo, but they need Medvedeva for the scores, like last year.

 

[j00mla]

I think this is a strategic decision.
I think the russian federation wants only to know if they can rely on Elena next year.

Before Olympic, Radionova will participate if Grand Prix (at least twice as she is #6 in ISU World Standings) and some "smaller" competitions so it's not very strong explanation for me.

 

[MaiKatze]

You cannot imagine how furious Russian fans about it! By the way, it's a monetary question after all and the Girl who worked the whole season and part of the last season so conscientiously and diligently is left out the board. Like she is very rich and doesn't need these money deserved for her worthy labour.

Didn't think about this yet, but so true. And the argument that Anna is not entertaining doesn't cut it. She's been in Art on Ice this season and was very well received.

I love Elena, she's one of my favourite Russian Ladies, but even our commentators said she will have it hard. Her body has grown. She's a tall, mature looking woman now and her jumps are the same jumps she had as a little girl. It will be harder for her to get to the Olympics and she's had many competitions in Japan before. It won't magically make her a better candidate, to be exposed at the WTT. It could also go the wrong way.

 

[Santey]

Didn't think about this yet, but so true. And the argument that Anna is not entertaining doesn't cut it. She's been in Art on Ice this season and was very well received.

I love Elena, she's one of my favourite Russian Ladies, but even our commentators said she will have it hard. Her body has grown. She's a tall, mature looking woman now and her jumps are the same jumps she had as a little girl. It will be harder for her to get to the Olympics and she's had many competitions in Japan before. It won't magically make her a better candidate, to be exposed at the WTT. It could also go the wrong way.

The matter of the fact this is the commercial contest, it's all about money. So it's another sign of ignorance towards Anna. Lena would have the upcoming season to show her form. And our Federation f%#@ing lost all sense of shame and robbed Anna! Btw, Lena's VK group is closed because of massive discontent of fans.

 

[NoNameFace]

I have to say that I smelled this one from second Anna's FS score appeared in Helsinki, knowing Russian Fed. She was never a favourite or a 'darling' of it, so she had to prove herself three times harder or more. And how about that - her heroic and inspiring medal at last Worlds and a great season with methodical rise ends with just one moment of weakness? For me, it's not even logical, as looking at long distance, Anna still has more tech stability than other 'contenders' and one bad performance should not cross that out. But, it's Russian Drama in its fullest, and officials there like to organize such 'Hunger Games' for its skaters it seems, instead of taking greater care about those who needed it - not by nonsense punishing or pushing, but by understanding and trust.

But that's the effect of results du jour thinking, not a long-distance one...

my biggest hug and love to Anna, hope she'll feel a power of all her fans' support much more stronger than ignorance/stupidity of her Fed. Hope positivity and all emotions connected will overpower negativity and tasteless feel of Fed's behaviour

 

[Yasmina1996]

Anna is so strong! I'm sure she didn't give up before and isn't going to do it now. It seems to me she is one of the best skater our time as Ashley Wagner. They are both divas!

 

[UnNamed]

Before Olympic, Radionova will participate if Grand Prix (at least twice as she is #6 in ISU World Standings) and some "smaller" competitions so it's not very strong explanation for me.

It's not about slot, it's about performance.
Even Masha will have 2/3 slot but i didn't rely on her for the olympic season.

Russian federation needs strong skaters next year, but they only have Pogo which have "failed" the only big competition and maybe they're worried for the olympics. Then they have Sotskova which have a good season but maybe they thought she's too young and she dont have nerves.

Junior skaters like Tsurkaya or Zagitova are not an option.

Adelina or liza tukt? No jokes please.

They only left Radionova with a not that great season, a big heart and strong nerves but sloppy jumps. They need to bet on her if Pogo fails next season or someone have some injury.

 

[zounger]

I really like Anna and from a first glance it looks unfair (and it is). But with the days passing, putting aside the worm emotions, what the Russian Fed. is trying to do is to maximize their chances for next year. By keeping more potential skaters involved.

So in my eyes they just did a simulation, lets' say that Lena competed in Worlds according to her previous results (nationals, Universiade), she could have earned around 190 and being in the first 10 positions( above Anna), similar to Maria. So let's give her a try.

Anna is still the favorite in my opinion for the second spot next year. And I think her skating will be improved.