Any Sasha updates?

[Mathman]

I think what people are weary of is the constant drama. After a while it beats you down and you just say, whatever.

Go Alena Leonova! :yes:

 

[Tango_D_R]

and I was kidding - sorry, a long day and my tank is dry.

But since you commented I will disclose the Kween's secret weapon. On the fateful day that Sasha wins Natls expect major reinforcements to arrive in the form of the Yuna fans.

The Kween's wise alliance with Yuna will turn the tide. When Weir's Angels hear this news they too will join forces with the Kween's faniacs and nothing short of an all out slaughter will follow.
Poor Sasha

WTH ????


Even as a joke.. Uh-uh.. not cool.. to the fans of every skaters mentioned above :indiff:

 

[Tango_D_R]

Boo-hoo, you are just sore coz I mentioned Yuna.

And it's OK if you don't appreciate my somewhat feeble attempt at satirical commentary.

It's just my way of saying so many attacks on Sasha's character are not so cool either.

But I did not mean to offend you or anybody else and was trying to make a point in my own way.

I said fans to the EVERY skaters mentioned above. including Sasha.
How in earth did you jump to the conclusion I'm sore because you mentioned Kim?
You saying attacks on Sasha's character are not cool either.. My point is why are they generalized as Kwan's or Kim's or Weir's fans.. even as a joke?
The point that you were trying to make.. I don't get it. Would you be a dear and enlighten me.

 

[Tango_D_R]

Not unless you say the magic word

Wingardium Leviosa

 

[prettykeys]

Wingardium Leviosa

LOL so clever.

 

[Tango_D_R]

Close but no cigar. Not a HP fan
More of Lord of the Rings type of guy.

And here it is late. tell you what, if it make you happy I will dlete the psost - if you also delete your replies that quoted them. And I have to get going in 5-10 miutes so let me know.

Damn.. I don't know how to spell-out those Elfish something language.
Anyways, no need to delete the post, I was just worried some fans from either sides might get the wrong idea.

 

[Bennett]

I can't see how the attempt is hurting anyone.

I am disappointed mainly because she failed to give another skater a chance to take the spot (TEB) or enough time to prepare (SA). As it was a chronic injury rather than an acute one, these last minute WDs did not appear very considerate or respectful to other skaters who would have appreciated GP events in the Olympic season. At Nationals, however, I read here that her spot would not affect anyone else's chance to skate.

 

[Nadia01]

I don't care if the criticism is coming from a "former figure skater" or someone who's always sat at home watching others put their heart out on the ice. It's not right. I can't see how the attempt is hurting anyone Sasha. If Sasha makes it, she makes it. If she doesn't, she doesn't.

I fixed it for you. (I couldn't strike it out, so I just made the word very small.)

Sasha's "comeback" has hurt other skaters who are younger and probably are more serious about sticking w/ competitive FS for a while and were robbed of one or two GP spots, and thereby not getting the kind of international competition experience they should be getting.

Sasha's "comeback" has hurt her fans who got their hopes up because of Sasha. Bought tickets & made hotel reservations, etc. to go to SA because of her.

This "comeback" is just ridiculously irresponsible because the only thing she's been getting is the media attention, which is what she TRULY wants.

 

[janetfan]

I fixed it for you. (I couldn't strike it out, so I just made the word very small.)

Sasha's "comeback" has hurt other skaters who are younger and probably are more serious about sticking w/ competitive FS for a while and were robbed of one or two GP spots, and thereby not getting the kind of international competition experience they should be getting.

Sasha's "comeback" has hurt her fans who got their hopes up because of Sasha. Bought tickets & made hotel reservations, etc. to go to SA because of her.

This "comeback" is just ridiculously irresponsible because the only thing she's been getting is the media attention, which is what she TRULY wants.

Interesting but so far the only "media attention" I have seen about Sasha's comeback has been from Jenny and Hersch.

I have seen nothing on TV about it and only 2-3 articles in newspapers, and only one of them was a major market newspaper.

AFAIK, both of Sasha's GP events were filled by other skaters.
I fail to see how Sasha's attemped comeback has hurt other skaters, or the sport of figure skating for that matter.

I would agree that her fans may feel let down and even upset by her withdrawals.
But somehow, I think that life will go on.

 

[Kypma]

AFAIK, both of Sasha's GP events were filled by other skaters.

I believe Elena Glebova was given the spot to TEB, but it was too late to arrange for travel/visas/etc. so she had to withdraw and that spot was left open. Had Sasha withdrawn earlier, Elena may have had the time to arrange for her travels and been able to compete.

For Skate America, as a host pick, Sasha's spot could be given to anyone already in the States, like Emily Hughes, which would come with considerably less international travel hassle, so her late withdrawal wasn't as disruptive. Had her spot have been given to a non-American skater, with practices starting on Thursday, I'm not sure her spot could have been filled in.

Either way, while I do agree it's a pity people are glad to say they correctly predicted that Sasha would withdraw, I must admit that her comeback so far has been disappointing, especially in her manner of handling things. Dealing with a recurring injury, she must have known quite early whether she could compete or not, and the fact that she originally never mentionned the Improv on Ive show in her initial TEB withdrawal statement gave people a negative first impression, and then the Monday withdrawal this week was also perceived as last-minute. I think that, had she handled her first withdrawal in a different manner, perhaps the fuss this time around wouldn't have been as bad. Then again, we're talking about Sasha Cohen, so who knows.

Just my 2 cents' worth,

-Kypma

 

[prettykeys]

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Sasha's "comeback" has hurt other skaters who are younger and probably are more serious about sticking w/ competitive FS for a while and were robbed of one or two GP spots, and thereby not getting the kind of international competition experience they should be getting.

Sasha's "comeback" has hurt her fans who got their hopes up because of Sasha. Bought tickets & made hotel reservations, etc. to go to SA because of her.

This "comeback" is just ridiculously irresponsible because the only thing she's been getting is the media attention, which is what she TRULY wants.

I disagree. As someone else mentioned already, there were/are skaters to replace her after she announced her withdrawals.

Secondly, her withdrawals must be frustrating and disappointing, but I do not agree with the overblown sense of entitlement that seems to come from being that kind of fan with the attitude that someone has to perform for you. Uhh, Sasha's not obligated to do @$#% for anyone. It seems a little too easy to criticize the seriousness of an injury or even the mental state of feeling unprepared, but those are hardly things that are within her control. Maybe, instead, people should blast the media for building the hype. Sasha HAD to announce her attempt to return to secure spots in the case she was ready and able/wanting to perform. Premature, maybe. But fans did what they did because they thought she could do something for them (give them a good show?) She didn't ask anyone to go to Skate America just for her.

I loathe the selfish attitude that her fans did more for her than she does for them, since she's not asking anyone to do anything for her.

Plus, haters are jumping on the bandwagon and using the example of her disappointed fans to heap more hate towards her in a self-righteous way. Yuck.

 

[Tango_D_R]

I believe Elena Glebova was given the spot to TEB, but it was too late to arrange for travel/visas/etc. so she had to withdraw and that spot was left open. Had Sasha withdrawn earlier, Elena may have had the time to arrange for her travels and been able to compete.

For Skate America, as a host pick, Sasha's spot could be given to anyone already in the States, like Emily Hughes, which would come with considerably less international travel hassle, so her late withdrawal wasn't as disruptive. Had her spot have been given to a non-American skater, with practices starting on Thursday, I'm not sure her spot could have been filled in.

Either way, while I do agree it's a pity people are glad to say they correctly predicted that Sasha would withdraw, I must admit that her comeback so far has been disappointing, especially in her manner of handling things. Dealing with a recurring injury, she must have known quite early whether she could compete or not, and the fact that she originally never mentionned the Improv on Ive show in her initial TEB withdrawal statement gave people a negative first impression, and then the Monday withdrawal this week was also perceived as last-minute. I think that, had she handled her first withdrawal in a different manner, perhaps the fuss this time around wouldn't have been as bad. Then again, we're talking about Sasha Cohen, so who knows.

Just my 2 cents' worth,

-Kypma

Whole post :thumbsup:

If that doesn't make it clear, I don't know what would.

 

[chuckm]

All Sasha wants is the OGM (fat chance). She wanted to make the Olympic team, and too bad if that meant that another skater who'd been working hard for the past 4 years was left at home. She never had any intention of going on to 2010 Worlds or competing past Vancouver.

She was supposedly thrilled to receive two GP invitations, even though she already was suffering from tendonitis in her leg and wasn't really able to train intensively for those events. Then she waited until the very last moment to withdraw from TEB, and that place went vacant. She withdrew from SA the week of the event as well, although that slot was able to be filled.

Sasha says she still wants to go to Nationals, but it would appear that her chances of being ready to compete there are somewhere between slim and none.

Meanwhile, she gets lots of free publicity because of her 'comeback', injury and withdrawals.

I'm just waiting for Sasha to withdraw from Nationals and then request a bye to Vancouver. As if.

 

[R.D.]

All Sasha wants is the OGM (fat chance). She wanted to make the Olympic team, and too bad if that meant that another skater who'd been working hard for the past 4 years was left at home. She never had any intention of going on to 2010 Worlds or competing past Vancouver.

She was supposedly thrilled to receive two GP invitations, even though she already was suffering from tendonitis in her leg and wasn't really able to train intensively for those events. Then she waited until the very last moment to withdraw from TEB, and that place went vacant. She withdrew from SA the week of the event as well, although that slot was able to be filled.

Sasha says she still wants to go to Nationals, but it would appear that her chances of being ready to compete there are somewhere between slim and none.

Meanwhile, she gets lots of free publicity because of her 'comeback', injury and withdrawals.

I'm just waiting for Sasha to withdraw from Nationals and then request a bye to Vancouver. As if.

I wouldn't be surprised. But here's the thing- should she just be honest with herself, spare her fans the angst, and just say she's not in any shape to compete this season? From "insider reports" on other forums it appears as if she's in nowhere near optimum shape, likely because of the injury. I guess in the case of Nationals, she wouldn't be taking anyone else's spot so a last-minute WD there would appear to not be as bad. However, because of the publicity the event gets, and the media interviews before, I think it would look bad if she hypes it up, saying "Oh I can't wait" or whatever sound bytes she puts out, and then pulls out on Jan 21st or something (I think the ladies' SP is that week).

At least Meissner pulled out early enough for the empty spots to be filled. In fact, we have people even saying she should have competed with watered-down content anyway. I think she made the right decision (although it must have been a really tough one). IMHO, Cohen should just suck it up and say it's not going to work out. She might actually be deluding herself if she thinks she can have it together in two months.

Anyway, I expect her to WD either late December or early January. If she is waived onto the Oly team (I don't think she should considering she hasn't competed in years) then I see her WD'ing sometime before the event, although I wouldn't be surprised if she waited closer to the actual event to do so, leaving little time for the alternate to get ready, etc.

 

[Kwanford Wife]

Wow... I continue to be surprised by posters on this board...

Some, who claim to love the sport of skating, have decided that their love makes their opinion law... totally disregarding the fact that they don't know squat about a skater's motivation... these are the same people are always disappointed "IN" a skater vs. being disappointed "FOR" said skater.

Some, just rant at anyone who says anything that they might misconstrue as a negative to their particular favorite... even if the conversation is focused on a different discipline. But whatever - I'm an uber, so if one researched my old posts, you might find something somewhere with me ranting about how an ice dancer's victory overshadows a my fav's win...

Others who say really mean and nasty things that aren't necessary but attempt to play it off as a joke when other forum readers get offended.

And of course - some just like to stir the pot and have a history of it - so what can you do but shake your head and move on until they say something that amuses you...

And of course, there are us super fans who let our uber flags fly and have a strong, emotional connection to particular skaters and we become fodder for all matter of abuse. So? My husband is a die hard Lions fan, so I know how to take it from watching him, so the bazingas don't get me down all that much (granted, I'm a Kwaniac - so I just giggle because what can you honstely say bad about La Kwan? That she's awesome? Otherwise - you're simply wrong...)

I hope that Sasha's fans can learn from Kwan ubers and celebrate what she's contributed to the sport and root for her if she returns. Otherwise - why are you a fan?

And before I close my last post on this topic - I want to point out three clarifications to ensure my realness is clear:

1. if Sasha wins Nationals, I'll cheer for her because I'm a fan of US Ladies Skating. If she doesn't go - I'll cheer for Emily, Marai, et al because I don't have money riding on the outcome and cross my fingers for a good Olympic result (hey, top 15 isn't that bad...)

2. if Sasha receives a medical bye to the Games I'll be shocked but will know it was a financial decision made by the USFSA

3. My claws are non-retractable and I'm not afraid to use them.

 

[Mathman]

...so if one researched my old posts, you might find something somewhere with me ranting about how an ice dancer's victory overshadows a my fav's win...

And rant we should! Such as...what about Michelle giving the Greatest Performance Of All Time at 2003 Worlds. The here come Shen and Zhao with Turandot and everyone forgets Michelle ever skated! Not fair!

My husband is a Lions fan...

Me, too.

 

[R.D.]

you know, it would be fine if these posters stood up for every skater getting more than her fair share of heat but I'm seeing a little 'selection' going on here

 

[janetfan]

All Sasha wants is the OGM (fat chance). .

That is the thing! You nailed it. That darn Sasha only wants the OGM.

Of course we all know that none of the other Ladies have even a passing interest in winning the OGM. :yes:

Thanks for clearing that up for us. :agree:

How dare that Sasha be so selfish and pursue her deam?

Why can't Sasha be more like Michelle was? Or Yuna, Mao, Joannie, Miki and the others who's sole purpose in skating is only to please their fans

 

[prettykeys]

Wow... I continue to be surprised by posters on this board...

Some, who claim to love the sport of skating, have decided that their love makes their opinion law... totally disregarding the fact that they don't know squat about a skater's motivation... these are the same people are always disappointed "IN" a skater vs. being disappointed "FOR" said skater.

:yes:

Others who say really mean and nasty things that aren't necessary but attempt to play it off as a joke when other forum readers get offended.

And of course - some just like to stir the pot and have a history of it - so what can you do but shake your head and move on until they say something that amuses you...

I guess this one might be me. But I try to be fair!!

I hope that Sasha's fans [the angry ones, certainly not all of them] can learn from Kwan ubers and celebrate what she's contributed to the sport and root for her if she returns. Otherwise - why are you a fan?

And this is why, R.D., SOME of Sasha's fans may not have been as "forgiving" of Sasha. But I know other Sasha fans are. They just can't avoid the stigma of the "fanatical blind fan" image, and why Kwanford's chastisement is effective.

 

[Spun Silver]

That is the thing! You nailed it. That darn Sasha only wants the OGM.

Of course we all know that none of the other Ladies have even a passing interest in winning the OGM. :yes:

Thanks for clearing that up for us. :agree:

How dare that Sasha be so selfish and pursue her deam?

Why can't Sasha be more like Michelle was? Or Yuna, Mao, Joannie, Miki and the others who's sole purpose in skating is only to please their fans