Ashley Wagner's future
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Flatt was not gifted with natural talent like Mao/Yuna/Carolina. She did what she could and did the best of her abilities. She's now in school, thriving. Where is Ashley?
Still skating and winning medals?
You can say the same for Wagner too.
The comparison to Suzuki is fair, but even she has a world medal, which Wagner does not have.
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I see similarity between Ashley and Alena Leonova. They are both great performers (Leonova's SP this year is my favourite) but lack a bit in the technical content. Alena is propably(and sadly IMO) done because of the quantity of talented Russians but Ashley still has few good years in front of her. The fact that she's not under so much pressure can only help her. Looking forward to see her in TEB. Then again, I'm not that much interested in who gets the medal or not, I'm very subjective when it comes to programs I like.
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BOOM!
FlattFan, you're making it seem as if Ashley has turned into Caroline Zhang or something. No, Ashley is not the most talented skater in the field but it's obvious from her scores and results that she is still competitive even without a 3-3 or 7 triples. That's saying something...
Didn't she achieve that at a later age than Ashley? She has the right to keep trying as long as she wants. No one knows the future, this could be her year.
I'm not saying Wagner can't try or won't get one in the future - I was simply stating a fact. Until Wagner is able to win one, that will continue to be the case. That's all.
And I agree, stranger things have happened.
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Agreed, but remember the field Akiko was competing in around the time she won that world medal. It was one of the weakest international fields we've had in a really long time. Yu-Na was gone, Miki was gone, Mao was still struggling with her jumps, Carolina was performing junior level content and no one did anything harder than a 3T-3T. Needless to say I don't see the sport suffering another technical regression of that magnitude any time soon.
I do think it will be much harder for Ashley to get herself on a world podium in this field of ladies b/c the level of competition is much higher than it was back when Akiko medaled but, as R.D. said, much stranger things have happened.
Gedevanishvilli (excue spelling) did a 3lutz-3t in the short, but all the rest only did 3t-3t and more of those were done in the short program than the long.
Last year's Grand Prix final.
Fully-rotated? I'm not sure. But she attempted it at the Olympics (albeit with 1 UR) and Worlds (2 URs).
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Haha! I love it
And she'll probably grab some more hardware this weekend. She's only 23, if she wants to continue, then let the girl continue. I wish her luck.
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Ashley is one of the only skaters in the current field who can sell a performance whether she's landing 1 triple or 7. That's one thing she has over the Russians who are slated to be above her this season. In that sense she's kind of a Leonova too... Not many "performers" today so I'm glad Wagner continues to bring at least that even when the jumps fail her.
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Ashley will have her black swan moment.
Hopefully at Worlds in Boston
Hopefully at Worlds in Boston
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(1) New interview with Wagner as she competes at TEB:
Wagner finds inspiration in performing for audience
Two-time U.S. champion says she still gets a rush from competition
Two-time U.S. champion says she still gets a rush from competition
Posted 11/21/14 by Jean-Christophe Berlot
http://www.icenetwork.com/news/2014/11/21/102080632
http://www.icenetwork.com/news/2014/11/21/102080632
(2) Contrary to your posts, I would say that IN gave plenty of love to Wagner for her Skate Canada results.
Six paragraphs about Wagner's silver and lotsa quotes from her were in IN's article about the final Ladies results in Kelowna. The article devoted more space to Wagner than to the winner or to any other lady.
IN's article on the Ladies SP at Skate Canada had four paragraphs on Wagner, including quotes from her. She got more ink than Pogorilaya, who won the SP.
Russian-of-the week Pogorilaya wins Skate Canada
Wagner takes silver on strength of components; Miyahara bags bronze
Wagner takes silver on strength of components; Miyahara bags bronze
Posted 11/2/14 by Klaus-Reinhold Kany
http://web.icenetwork.com/news/2014/11/02/100338452/russian-of-the-week-pogorilaya-wins-skate-canada
http://web.icenetwork.com/news/2014/11/02/100338452/russian-of-the-week-pogorilaya-wins-skate-canada
IN's article on the Ladies SP at Skate Canada had four paragraphs on Wagner, including quotes from her. She got more ink than Pogorilaya, who won the SP.
Another week, another Russian: Pogorilaya leads
Two-time U.S. champ just 1.42 points out of first; Leonova takes third
Two-time U.S. champ just 1.42 points out of first; Leonova takes third
Posted 11/1/14 by Klaus-Reinhold Kany
http://web.icenetwork.com/news/2014/11/01/100278854
http://web.icenetwork.com/news/2014/11/01/100278854
And I'm sure that USFS gave Wagner prominent billing in its press releases about Team USA's results at Skate Canada. (I will let you look them up yourself.)
(3) Bottom line: Wagner was not snubbed. What I meant in my earlier post is that after coverage of Skate Canada was completed, it was only natural that IN's attention turned to competitors at the GPs taking place in each subsequent week.
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thank you golden411 for posting the articles, I actually hadn't seen them. I love the new interview as it echos what I have seen in her skating this year so far and such a great attitude. I also have noticed in the universal and NBC footage that she is commented on in a positive way in the preview to the shows as well as Gracie.
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