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Boots for weak ankles?

negenallison13

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Hello all, I’m in the look for a different boot possibly. I’ve been skating for 16 years 14 of which were from when I was little until I graduated high school, I was in a club that used the USFS program so we didn’t do competitions and such and it wasn’t super tough. But I’ve been wearing the Riedel motion boots for about 6 years or so I have two pairs of them. I’m starting to notice them getting looser as they are about 4 years old. But I have ankle issues, lots of sprains on my right foot so it’s weaker and I need a more stiff boot to compensate when I skate. I am a freeskate 3 level in usfs. The highest jump I’ve learned and mastered is the salchow I’ve been trying to learn the loop and lutz but hasn’t gone too well and now I’ve been graduated so I don’t have a coach anymore but would still like to keep working on it as I know I could book with her still for private sessions. Any suggestions on a different boot that may help me better, do I need to go up to a higher boot to help me with jumps and such? Also the blade I have is the legacy 7 on this Riedel Motion boot. I am 180lbs and 5 foot 3. My arches are normal and I would say my heel is narrower than the base of my foot, my skates I have now are a size 4.5 Med. I wear a size 7 in my tennis shoes and that’s US sizing. I don’t have any bunions or anything on my toes. My big toe is slightly curved into the other toes though but hardly, I don’t have wide feet they are normal, let me know if you need anything else.
Thanks Allison
 
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Hello all, I’m in the look for a different boot possibly. I’ve been skating for 16 years 14 of which were from when I was little until I graduated high school, I was in a club that used the USFS program so we didn’t do competitions and such and it wasn’t super tough. But I’ve been wearing the Riedel motion boots for about 6 years or so I have two pairs of them. I’m starting to notice them getting looser as they are about 4 years old. But I have ankle issues, lots of sprains on my right foot so it’s weaker and I need a more stiff boot to compensate when I skate. I am a freeskate 3 level in usfs. The highest jump I’ve learned and mastered is the salchow I’ve been trying to learn the loop and lutz but hasn’t gone too well and now I’ve been graduated so I don’t have a coach anymore but would still like to keep working on it as I know I could book with her still for private sessions. Any suggestions on a different boot that may help me better, do I need to go up to a higher boot to help me with jumps and such? Also the blade I have is the legacy 7 on this Riedel Motion boot. I am 180lbs and 5 foot 3. My arches are normal and I would say my heel is narrower than the base of my foot, my skates I have now are a size 4.5 Med. I wear a size 7 in my tennis shoes and that’s US sizing. I don’t have any bunions or anything on my toes. My big toe is slightly curved into the other toes though but hardly, I don’t have wide feet they are normal, let me know if you need anything else.
Thanks Allison
:wave2: How many hours per week have you been skating, and do you alternate your two pairs of skates or use one and keep the others in reserve? They're breaking down after four years, in either case. For an adult, the stiffness rating leans more towards the skater's size than level of ability. I'm your height, weigh about 110, and most of my shoes are size 4 (North American size). Age is forcing me to scale back from triples to double/double combinations in jumps and doubles in pairs throws, and like you I have one weaker ankle from an old fracture. I have a pair of Riedell Silver Star boots on order and currently am wearing Riedell 2010 Fusions. Last year I was wearing Risport RF1 Elite boots. Those all have a 90 stiffness rating, whereas your Motions have a 70 rating (although stiffness is not consistently numbered across all boot brands).

Not a detailed analysis of your situation, and I'm sure the coaches on GS can give you a broader picture and more suggestions for other brands or Riedell models if you like the fit of that brand. You do need new boots, though, and possibly stiffer ones. Are you able to ask the opinion of the coach you hope to have for private lessons?

Where, specifically, do you live? Someone here can then give you a recommendation for the nearest good skate shop with a good fitter.
 
:wave2: How many hours per week have you been skating, and do you alternate your two pairs of skates or use one and keep the others in reserve? They're breaking down after four years, in either case. For an adult, the stiffness rating leans more towards the skater's size than level of ability. I'm your height, weigh about 110, and most of my shoes are size 4 (North American size). Age is forcing me to scale back from triples to double/double combinations in jumps and doubles in pairs throws, and like you I have one weaker ankle from an old fracture. I have a pair of Riedell Silver Star boots on order and currently am wearing Riedell 2010 Fusions. Last year I was wearing Risport RF1 Elite boots. Those all have a 90 stiffness rating, whereas your Motions have a 70 rating (although stiffness is not consistently numbered across all boot brands).

Not a detailed analysis of your situation, and I'm sure the coaches on GS can give you a broader picture and more suggestions for other brands or Riedell models if you like the fit of that brand. You do need new boots, though, and possibly stiffer ones. Are you able to ask the opinion of the coach you hope to have for private lessons?

Where, specifically, do you live? Someone here can then give you a recommendation for the nearest good skate shop with a good fitter.
:wave2: How many hours per week have you been skating, and do you alternate your two pairs of skates or use one and keep the others in reserve? They're breaking down after four years, in either case. For an adult, the stiffness rating leans more towards the skater's size than level of ability. I'm your height, weigh about 110, and most of my shoes are size 4 (North American size). Age is forcing me to scale back from triples to double/double combinations in jumps and doubles in pairs throws, and like you I have one weaker ankle from an old fracture. I have a pair of Riedell Silver Star boots on order and currently am wearing Riedell 2010 Fusions. Last year I was wearing Risport RF1 Elite boots. Those all have a 90 stiffness rating, whereas your Motions have a 70 rating (although stiffness is not consistently numbered across all boot brands).

Not a detailed analysis of your situation, and I'm sure the coaches on GS can give you a broader picture and more suggestions for other brands or Riedell models if you like the fit of that brand. You do need new boots, though, and possibly stiffer ones. Are you able to ask the opinion of the coach you hope to have for private lessons?

Where, specifically, do you live? Someone here can then give you a recommendation for the nearest good skate shop with a good fitter.
I don’t nearly skate as much as I have before. When I was in my program up until 2 years ago since I graduated high school. I’m 19 almost 20 now her in the next month so I’m more focused on school than skating since I’m not in a program anymore like I was through k-12. I skated about 5-6 hours one night a week. And sometimes an hour at open skate whenever that was possible. Now for the skates I have, the one pair is broken down quite a lot more and the blade would have to be changed so I only use the pair that’s I’ve been using for the past four years they actually are both riedel motions just one was too big and started breaking down so I got the same one again in smaller size when I went to a skate shop to be sized into boots but they only offer riedel and Jackson’s and I don’t necessarily like the feel of Jackson’s now after so many injuries to my ankle I had them when I was a lot younger and loved them but I like the feel of my riedels now but would be open to trying another brand too. I could ask my previous coach and she would be the one if I asked for lessons she might be able to do it but I’m not sure she would be much help and also I don’t think she teaches adults. Although I have been her student for 14 years I’m not starting all over again like a new adult but still not sure. I live in Minnesota specifically windom Minnesota about 2 hours from me there is a skate shop in Sioux Falls it’s a hockey and figure skating shop more hockey but there trying to expand it more for figure skating and there’s a previous skating coach who works there and helped fit me into my pair I have now. But I know up in the twin cities there’s a shop but it’s just a long drive up there.
 
I don’t nearly skate as much as I have before. When I was in my program up until 2 years ago since I graduated high school. I’m 19 almost 20 now her in the next month so I’m more focused on school than skating since I’m not in a program anymore like I was through k-12. I skated about 5-6 hours one night a week. And sometimes an hour at open skate whenever that was possible. Now for the skates I have, the one pair is broken down quite a lot more and the blade would have to be changed so I only use the pair that’s I’ve been using for the past four years they actually are both riedel motions just one was too big and started breaking down so I got the same one again in smaller size when I went to a skate shop to be sized into boots but they only offer riedel and Jackson’s and I don’t necessarily like the feel of Jackson’s now after so many injuries to my ankle I had them when I was a lot younger and loved them but I like the feel of my riedels now but would be open to trying another brand too. I could ask my previous coach and she would be the one if I asked for lessons she might be able to do it but I’m not sure she would be much help and also I don’t think she teaches adults. Although I have been her student for 14 years I’m not starting all over again like a new adult but still not sure. I live in Minnesota specifically windom Minnesota about 2 hours from me there is a skate shop in Sioux Falls it’s a hockey and figure skating shop more hockey but there trying to expand it more for figure skating and there’s a previous skating coach who works there and helped fit me into my pair I have now. But I know up in the twin cities there’s a shop but it’s just a long drive up there.
Well, Minnesota has been a hockey powerhouse for a long time, but I would hope figure skating is growing there also. I'm on the Pacific coast of Canada, so I have no knowledge of fitters where you are, but I hope someone in the USA sees your posts and can offer more specific help.

I wore Jacksons for many years, but they changed the shape of their boots and they no longer suit my narrow feet with Egyptian toes and a high arch. I switched to Risports and then found Riedells also fit me. If you like Riedells now, that would explain why Jacksons don't fit you anymore. You may want to try on Risports as well, and some skaters with my shape of foot like Graf boots. But probably Risport or Riedell are more popular brands for your skate shop (when you find one) to stock or order in. Edeas are widely available, but I doubt if they'd fit you properly, judging by your description. I know they don't fit me at all.

Good luck!
 
Well, Minnesota has been a hockey powerhouse for a long time, but I would hope figure skating is growing there also. I'm on the Pacific coast of Canada, so I have no knowledge of fitters where you are, but I hope someone in the USA sees your posts and can offer more specific help.

I wore Jacksons for many years, but they changed the shape of their boots and they no longer suit my narrow feet with Egyptian toes and a high arch. I switched to Risports and then found Riedells also fit me. If you like Riedells now, that would explain why Jacksons don't fit you anymore. You may want to try on Risports as well, and some skaters with my shape of foot like Graf boots. But probably Risport or Riedell are more popular brands for your skate shop (when you find one) to stock or order in. Edeas are widely available, but I doubt if they'd fit you properly, judging by your description. I know they don't fit me at all.

Good luck!
Thank you so much for the help, that would explain why I don’t like Jackson’s anymore, changing their shapes. They hurt my ankle too much now and never had that issue before but that also I thought was cause of my injuries to it and it being more sensitive. I’ve wanted to try on edeas but I didn’t know if they’d fit me properly. But I also don’t know if any place around me has risports there’s really only two shops and the one is super far and the other is in reasonable distance but there only got Riedels and Jackson’s.
 
Are your old boots heat moldable?

If so, they can possibly be remolded to be snug against the ankles again.

You can also add a little thickness to your insoles, which will push your feet up into the smaller part of the boot. E.g., cover the bottom of the insoles with cloth first aid tape.

Of course if the boots are breaking down, these will be temporary fixes.
 
Yes they are, I’ve had them molded at least twice each year. Also I don’t have insoles in my skates. They never came with any and my last pair didn’t have any either and I prefer them honestly without them. I can feel the movements better without them and I just used hockey tape to cover the nails and stuff so I didn’t rip my socks. I use tights but there only knee high. Also the boots are just at the point they need to be replaced the bottom wood is starting to come off the leather like my old pair did.
 
Hello all, I’m in the look for a different boot possibly. I’ve been skating for 16 years 14 of which were from when I was little until I graduated high school, I was in a club that used the USFS program so we didn’t do competitions and such and it wasn’t super tough. But I’ve been wearing the Riedel motion boots for about 6 years or so I have two pairs of them. I’m starting to notice them getting looser as they are about 4 years old. But I have ankle issues, lots of sprains on my right foot so it’s weaker and I need a more stiff boot to compensate when I skate. I am a freeskate 3 level in usfs. The highest jump I’ve learned and mastered is the salchow I’ve been trying to learn the loop and lutz but hasn’t gone too well and now I’ve been graduated so I don’t have a coach anymore but would still like to keep working on it as I know I could book with her still for private sessions. Any suggestions on a different boot that may help me better, do I need to go up to a higher boot to help me with jumps and such? Also the blade I have is the legacy 7 on this Riedel Motion boot. I am 180lbs and 5 foot 3. My arches are normal and I would say my heel is narrower than the base of my foot, my skates I have now are a size 4.5 Med. I wear a size 7 in my tennis shoes and that’s US sizing. I don’t have any bunions or anything on my toes. My big toe is slightly curved into the other toes though but hardly, I don’t have wide feet they are normal, let me know if you need anything else.
Thanks Allison
What is your height/weight/foot type? I can help you by suggesting boots and blades once I am provided that info, also where are you in this world so I can send you to a proper figure skate fitter. Thanks.
 
Hello, I provided all that in the my first post, but I will put it down again for you. I am 5 foot 3, weigh 180lbs and my feet type is either or even Egyptian, Roman or African basically my second toe is the same size or a slightly bigger than the big toe but not much and then they slowly go down in size by each toe. My toes are slightly slanted as they go down they aren’t exactly straight like in the roman and African this is my first time describing my foot type so I’m not exactly sure.i would say im probably more Egyptian. I’m in the United States, specifically Minnesota it’s in the south eastern part of Minnesota so I’m way at the bottom.
 
Hello, I provided all that in the my first post, but I will put it down again for you. I am 5 foot 3, weigh 180lbs and my feet type is either or even Egyptian, Roman or African basically my second toe is the same size or a slightly bigger than the big toe but not much and then they slowly go down in size by each toe. My toes are slightly slanted as they go down they aren’t exactly straight like in the roman and African this is my first time describing my foot type so I’m not exactly sure.i would say im probably more Egyptian. I’m in the United States, specifically Minnesota it’s in the south eastern part of Minnesota so I’m way at the bottom.
Hi. I'm sorry that I missed that. It sounds like your foot is actually b/t Egyptian and Greek ( I have the latter).
In looking at brands: Risport, Graf, Riedell.

If you would like: I could suggest a boot or two for each of those brands that would work for your needs and skill level.

BTW: Riedell boots are made/based in Red Wing, MN. ;)
 
Hi. I'm sorry that I missed that. It sounds like your foot is actually b/t Egyptian and Greek ( I have the latter).
In looking at brands: Risport, Graf, Riedell.

If you would like: I could suggest a boot or two for each of those brands that would work for your needs and skill level.

BTW: Riedell boots are made/based in Red Wing, MN. ;)
No problem about missing that it was long. Do you think my foot got good in edeas I’ve always wanted to try those. But yes please give me some suggestions I’m in USFS up until I graduated which was two years ago so I’m no longer in a program but still skate when I can. I made it into freeskate 3 and have mastered up to the salchow, I started working on the loop jump and flip but couldn’t quite get it down. But the jumps I can do are walz jump,mazurka, half flip, toe loop, salchow, half lutz. I also have started to work on a sit spin but haven’t gotten too far.
 
No problem about missing that it was long. Do you think my foot got good in edeas I’ve always wanted to try those. But yes please give me some suggestions I’m in USFS up until I graduated which was two years ago so I’m no longer in a program but still skate when I can. I made it into freeskate 3 and have mastered up to the salchow, I started working on the loop jump and flip but couldn’t quite get it down. But the jumps I can do are walz jump,mazurka, half flip, toe loop, salchow, half lutz. I also have started to work on a sit spin but haven’t gotten too far.
No to Edea for your particular feet, hence why I didn't mention them.
 
Could you maybe explain why they wouldn’t be a good fit for me. Also yes please give suggestions on what type of styles for those brands you listed would work good for me.
Hi. I did. Your FOOT SHAPE isn't meant for the way they are made and shaped.

Graf: F4000, or Richmond Special
Risport: Rf3 Pro
Riedell: Flair, Bronze Star

You will need blades to go with these boots. A good traditional style intermediate level blade would work either John Wilson Coronation Ace or MK Pro. You do NOT need lite or revolution blades at this point in your skating, hence why I said traditional style blade.
 
Could you maybe explain why they wouldn’t be a good fit for me. Also yes please give suggestions on what type of styles for those brands you listed would work good for me.
As Ic3Rabbit says, Edeas are the wrong shape for your shape of foot. Heat moulding can only do so much; the boots are still going to be stiffer than your feet. Unlike, say, ballet slippers that are a soft fabric and can yield to your foot, in skating it's the boot that is unyielding. In an Edea, your toes would be compressed painfully in some spots, and there will be spaces around and above your foot in other areas that will have you either filling in with heavier tights or, at worst, sliding within the boot.

Your boot needs to give you well-fitting support all around, up to your ankles. A good fitter will ensure that, and not just measure your foot's length and width as with street shoes. I think the silver soles on Edeas are pretty, but prettiness on the outside isn't going to do my skating any good if the boots don't fit on the inside! My Riedell Silver Stars are supposed to arrive tomorrow, the Bronze Stars Ic3Rabbit suggests would be right for your technical level, and try any of the others for comparison. I loved my Risport RF1, so I'd also recommend the RF3 boot for you.
 
Yes they are, I’ve had them molded at least twice each year. Also I don’t have insoles in my skates. They never came with any and my last pair didn’t have any either and I prefer them honestly without them. I can feel the movements better without them and I just used hockey tape to cover the nails and stuff so I didn’t rip my socks. I use tights but there only knee high. Also the boots are just at the point they need to be replaced the bottom wood is starting to come off the leather like my old pair did.

Twice/year? Every time you heat mold, it does of course break down the boots a little. But if you need it, you need it.

Are you sure it's wood? I didn't realize anyone still uses that. Anyway, that's irrelevant.

As a temporary measure you could still add very thin insoles, and modify to suit. If you don't like squishy ones, you could cut them out of something like cardboard... But if you don't like insoles at all... Of course, if you are wearing tights that cover your feet, as well as socks, I wonder if the slippage between the tights and socks exceeds the slippage of tightly fit insoles.

Regardless, it doesn't sound like the boots are in great shape. For many serious skaters, replacing boots is not nearly as expensive as lessons, ice time, training, costumes, sharpening, travel, etc.
 
Twice/year? Every time you heat mold, it does of course break down the boots a little. But if you need it, you need it.

Are you sure it's wood? I didn't realize anyone still uses that. Anyway, that's irrelevant.

As a temporary measure you could still add very thin insoles, and modify to suit. If you don't like squishy ones, you could cut them out of something like cardboard... But if you don't like insoles at all... Of course, if you are wearing tights that cover your feet, as well as socks, I wonder if the slippage between the tights and socks exceeds the slippage of tightly fit insoles.

Regardless, it doesn't sound like the boots are in great shape. For many serious skaters, replacing boots is not nearly as expensive as lessons, ice time, training, costumes, sharpening, travel, etc.
Uhm....we need to stop trying to fix issues that aren't going to be fixed by making soles that won't work and out of weird things that will potentially get the skater injured. Also, replacing boots are quite expensive and one of the more expensive things for a skater to replace depending on their financial situation and how often they need boots based on their skating level. Many elite singles skates can go through at least 3 pairs of skates a competitive year. Many carry two pairs at a time and alternate b/t them. And lastly, there are still boot makers, esp boots that are old school and customs that do use wood or wood byproducts.
 
Could you maybe explain why they wouldn’t be a good fit for me.

In addition to what others have mentioned - as a skater who also has weak ankles, I'd be worried Edeas wouldn't work for you at all.
They're designed with a more open collar and flexible tongue to make break-in easier and more comfortable. The flexible tongue doesn't provide as much resistance against the shins when you bend your knees, so although they are supportive from the sides, the looseness above the ankle and the lack of resistance to bending in the front makes them feel less supportive overall. I took a couple laps around the rink in a friend's Ice Flys once, and I really disliked that feeling.
 
Uhm....we need to stop trying to fix issues that aren't going to be fixed by making soles that won't work and out of weird things that will potentially get the skater injured. Also, replacing boots are quite expensive and one of the more expensive things for a skater to replace depending on their financial situation and how often they need boots based on their skating level. Many elite singles skates can go through at least 3 pairs of skates a competitive year. Many carry two pairs at a time and alternate b/t them. And lastly, there are still boot makers, esp boots that are old school and customs that do use wood or wood byproducts.
I didn't really originate any of these ideas. They are fairly widely talked about in the sports community, including in the skating community. It's really nothing but geometry and basic intuitive physics.

There is no reason they won't work - and I have used them. (Of course cardboard isn't very durable against sheer - so it would be a rather temporary fix.) In particular, cardboard has roughly similar compression properties to the hardened leather that many skate boot midsoles are made from. If she isn't using an insole, she is likely placing her socked feet on the midsole.

But if the foot is loose inside the boot, you to some extent loose control of the motions of your foot, which is likely to contribute to injury. That's true in any shoe - but in skating boots, your feet are elevated from the surface, and balances on a relatively thin piece of metal, so you need to limit slippage more than most sports. In addition, the elevation means that the surface forces are magnified by the leverage that height can create, which makes it easier for the foot to slip inside the boot.

My original Klingbeil insoles were made from leather - though it wasn't hardened. Leather can be a very durable material, and I wish I had kept them, even if I would have needed to modify them to fit too. But I let a skate tech who had no idea what he was doing replace them with something that didn't work any better.

I and many others have tried a variety of tapes to modify insoles. I started with duct tape. It worked well for at most a few days, sometimes for only a few hours. But it shifts around, and I think it changes shape as the adhesives work out from under the tape. Moleskin works well for a fairly short time, and has been widely used for the purpose by many people. I settled on cloth first aid tape (sometimes called athletic tape, or coach tape - especially high quality brands like Johnson & Johnson), because it is the most stable I have found. Cutting oneself a custom insole out of camping mattress foam works a little better - but it only works a few months before matting down, and cutting a 3D shape out of foam takes some practice - it makes sense to figure out first what shape you need to equalize pressure (if that is what you want) using tape.

Typical insoles are made from foams, with various properties. I did not suggest Poron, which is one of the best in the sense that it molds under pressure to the feet, and is widely used in many types of athletic shoe - but it is expensive and it too has a relatively short lifetime. E.g., in typical running shoes, when used by people who run daily, they are often replaced 3-4 times/year. I have used the foam from camping mattresses a lot because it is cheap, and somewhat more durable than other foams I have tried, and because it is skin-safe. (Some urethane foams are much more durable, but I haven't found any that are skin-safe. They are widely used in medical orthotics, by interposing one or more other skin-safe layers.)

I've tried a number of commercial insole products, from companies like Superfeet. None of them worked well for me, though that might be because they didn't happen to have the right shape or physical characteristics for my needs.

The most likely thing to injure someone is if a boot doesn't fit - either because the foot moves around inside the boot, or because it impinges on some part of it. E.g., I used to have a lot of sprained ankles, probably in part because I wore shoes & boots that didn't fit my relatively narrow heels. A lot of that was while backpacking. (Most people would say the heel should lift off the bottom of the boot while backpacking - but other types of motion are not good.) I used very high quality hiking boots, but it hadn't occurred to me to modify the insoles. I'm fairly certain that doing so would have solved a lot of that problem - though I also hadn't learned yet how to fall safely, or prevent falls without using excessive muscle tension. But you can often make footwear fit by adding a carefully crafted or modified insole. Not doing that because you are worried it isn't the official insole the boot comes with with, or isn't produced by a commercial company or medical expert (in which case it is called an orthotic) makes no sense at all to me.

As far as cost: It is true that skate boot costs have gone up a lot since Covid hit. Especially custom skate boot costs. But: Assume a fairly serious competitive skater pays at least $100/week for two or more lessons each week. (Some take a lot more than that.) That's $5200/year. If they use a good skate tech to sharpen their boots, they typically pay $10-$22, every week or two. That's $260 or more/year. And they likely replace their blades - often $300-$1000 every year or two. (I sharpen my own, using hand tools that greatly extend the life of blades, because to some extent the metal is reshaped - sometimes just straightened - instead of ground away - but I have come to the conclusion that relatively few people are willing to learn.) If they attend 4-8 freestyle sessions a week at, say $10-$15 each, that's $40-$120/week, or $2080-$6240 / year. They probably pay $50-$100 / year or more in club club memberships (i used to have to join several clubs to find enough ice time, though I was never all that serious). And they might pay $50-200 a year or more to enter competitions, $100-$200 / year in test fees. Many also pay fees for off-ice training and gym fees. Oh. I forgot about costumes. I've been a bit shocked to hear girls and ladies talk about $1000 for a skating outfit, that is only used for one competition. (Then again, in the ballroom dance community, $3000 is quite common.) Most serious skaters also pay their coaches to come to tests and competitions with them - might well be up to a few hundred $, though that is complicated, because the coach's fees are often split by several skaters.

Add to that all the other classes they might take off-ice, all nominally taken to improve their skating. Ballet. Gymnasitics. Yoga or stretch class. A surprising number are also home schooled with the help of paid tutors, to give them more time to skate and do all these things. I don't know how to estimate those costs. Some skaters have sport-related medical costs as well.

But I think the biggest expenses, that most people don't count, are travel expenses. Traveling to and from the rinks (I've been a bit surprised how far some people travel to take lessons), to and from their favored skate tech for sharpening, to and from tests and competitions, and to all those other classes. The IRS estimates the total costs of driving (gas is only a fraction of this) at $0.67/mile. I'd bet the typical serious skater drives (or is driven, since many are young kids) a few hundred miles / week. Call it 300. That's over $10000/year. (I've known skaters who traveled a lot more than that. Hard to imagine. I had a coach who traveled over 100 miles/day. And another who bought a townhouse in a ritzy neighborhood close to a rink - could we call the cost of the townhouse a skating expense?) Some of the competitions may involve out of town hotel stays too. And, unless Safesport rules have changed again, the coach has to have a separate room. Some skaters have air travel costs as well. (I think travel expenses are actually worse for hockey kids who are on travel teams. They and their families typically go out of town every couple weeks or so.)

And a few kids with busy parents are driven by paid chauffeurs, or someone may be paid to travel with them to hotels, especially now that USFS doesn't let a kid stay in a room with their coach. Of course, one typically has to put up the coach in a hotel room too.

If you need 3 skates / year, it might be because you don't build custom insoles, and pad boots otherwise to equalize pressure inside, or because you take care of them badly - e.g., you leave them inside skate bags, or inside the trunk of your car, etc. But to some extent skates break down because there is empty or low pressure space inside to break down into.

OTOH, I admit that people doing the highest jumps probably place a lot of stress on their boots. Maybe a few break down that many pairs in spite of doing everything right. But it isn't all that common for most of the skaters I have met to need 3 skate pairs / year. Two is somewhat common, but most need less. (Of course there is a growth stage, where kids outgrow skates ridiculously fast. And pregnancy related foot swelling. And some skaters have two complete pairs of skates, in case one breaks or is lost in travel, or they frequently ship one pair back and forth to their skate tech. And that's not counting the skaters who use different skates for different disciplines, or who paint two pair of skates differently for different programs.)

And I do admit that many serious skaters, if they didn't skate, would do something just as expensive. In which case these cost estimates are irrelevant.
 
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BTW, I didn't mean to completely discount the cost of new skates. I'm trying to budget for them myself. But you also should compare that to the potential costs of injury caused by badly fitting skates due to breakdown, or skates that no longer provide the necessary support - both of which the o.p. indicated - it's maybe tolerable. And if you count travel and other costs, and the lessons from which the o.p. maybe doesn't get full benefit because of the issues caused by skates, I would still claim that a good pair of properly fit skates are worth it. I economize on a lot of things. But economizing on some types of sports equipment, like skate boots, can be a false economy.

At least that is the way I see it.

And maybe I need to believe that making one's own insoles, etc., is a good idea, because I've spent a lot of time doing it, and experimenting with different techniques and materials, and discussing them with other people who have found their own techniques.
 
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