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We will see a Canadian medal in every event this week, starting with a shock bronze from Marcoux/Buntin in the pairs. GO CANADA! Unfortunately no golds for Canada though.
Canadian medal in every event!
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I think the chances of this are excellent; as a matter of fact, last night, I was thinking, if Canada does pull off a medal in all categories, who besides Russia has done this since Dance became the 4th Worlds event in the 50s? I was going to look it up (and still might), but I'm redecorating and my skating books are piled up haphazardly on top of the bookcase.......
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Team Canada will medal in ice dancing only, b/c when you look at the results so far:
Men: Lambiel seems like a lock for gold (has 2 quads over Oda's none), and Oda has finished in the top 2 or 3 INTERNATIONALLY all season. Evan and Jeff will contend for the last/third spot on the podium, and Johnny (considering his back spasms which obviously contributed to his watered down/doubled jumps) will round out the top 5.
Jeff may medal solely based on his questionably consistenly high PCS, at best a bronze.
Ladies: The Japanese contingent is strong, same as in Torino (whether or not with the absence of Shizuka and Mao), and Yukari and Yoshie are consistent top 3 finishers internationally. There will be one Japanese on the podium unless Kimmie or Joannie are outskated (in this case 2 JPN skaters may medal, not unlikely mind you.) Sasha will win either gold or silver, Fumie will medal (for the first time in 3 years since 03), and the 3rd medal is wide open for grabs among the other JPN skaters, Kimmie, and Joannie.
I don't think Joannie will medal b/c her non-jump elements are not as difficult/intricate as the other ladies, esp. compared to Sasha. Compared to the Japanese, Rochette may earn lower TES.
Pairs: The Chinese will dominate and can easily shut Petrova/Tikhonov (3rd after QR) out of the medals like they did at Torino. At best the Canadians Craig/Buntin will outskate Savchenko/Szolkowy and Inoue/Baldwin, but I just don't see them finishing higher than the Russians.
Ice Dancing: Unless Belbin and Agosto make small but noticeable mistakes that add up like they did in Torino, they're a lock for a top 2 finish. CD is obviously their weakest phase, but expect either Delobel/Schoenfelder or Lauzon/Dubreuil to outskate Belbin/Agosto in one phase of the competition (most likely the CD).
Ice Dancing
Men: Lambiel seems like a lock for gold (has 2 quads over Oda's none), and Oda has finished in the top 2 or 3 INTERNATIONALLY all season. Evan and Jeff will contend for the last/third spot on the podium, and Johnny (considering his back spasms which obviously contributed to his watered down/doubled jumps) will round out the top 5.
Jeff may medal solely based on his questionably consistenly high PCS, at best a bronze.
Ladies: The Japanese contingent is strong, same as in Torino (whether or not with the absence of Shizuka and Mao), and Yukari and Yoshie are consistent top 3 finishers internationally. There will be one Japanese on the podium unless Kimmie or Joannie are outskated (in this case 2 JPN skaters may medal, not unlikely mind you.) Sasha will win either gold or silver, Fumie will medal (for the first time in 3 years since 03), and the 3rd medal is wide open for grabs among the other JPN skaters, Kimmie, and Joannie.
I don't think Joannie will medal b/c her non-jump elements are not as difficult/intricate as the other ladies, esp. compared to Sasha. Compared to the Japanese, Rochette may earn lower TES.
Pairs: The Chinese will dominate and can easily shut Petrova/Tikhonov (3rd after QR) out of the medals like they did at Torino. At best the Canadians Craig/Buntin will outskate Savchenko/Szolkowy and Inoue/Baldwin, but I just don't see them finishing higher than the Russians.
Ice Dancing: Unless Belbin and Agosto make small but noticeable mistakes that add up like they did in Torino, they're a lock for a top 2 finish. CD is obviously their weakest phase, but expect either Delobel/Schoenfelder or Lauzon/Dubreuil to outskate Belbin/Agosto in one phase of the competition (most likely the CD).
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VINLUVSKWAN said:
What about the Grand Prix Final? Oda placed fourth in that event, and JEff placed third. Evan had to withdraw. I don't think there is any reason to think that Jeff or Evan won't beat Oda. Jeff has also come top two or three in all of his international events this season, including THE OLYMPICS.
VINLUVSKWAN said:
Well, I agree with you that Sasha and Fumie will medal. Onda may be a consistent top 3 finisher internationally, but that's in the GP and she's pretty much proven she's a better GP skater than a late-in-the-season skater; plus her overall competiton at the GP's aren't as deep and tough, for the most part, as it is here. The main point with Onda, tho, is, IMO, unless she has RADICALLY improved A LOT OF THINGS since Skate America, last time I saw her, I don't see her getting on the podium. Josee Chouinard appears to be trying to make her into a clone of herself, and while I adored Josee and her skating, Yoshie Onda is no Josee Chouinard, never will be, and doesn't need to be. The overall "thing" going on with her this year is just not convincing. And she doesn't have the greatest Worlds record anyway. (OK, she had a 5th in 02 but she also has an 11th and a 12th). As for Nakano -- yes, she has really torn it up this year and I can see her on the podium, but I can also see her pulling a First Worlds Syndrome and not being on the podium. (Look at Ando in her first Olympics, if you can bear to watch the tape of either one of those programs again).
As for Joannie -- what I really noticed about her programs in Torino, and what really impressed me and made me a fan of hers, is that, to my eyes, she has great transitions between the big elements and has something interesting going on (usually with her feet) in every second of her program. She only finished less than 14 points out of bronze in Torino, and that was with a botched short program. I certainly wouldn't count her out of the running. However, given the fact that the judging here already seems a little loopy, she does possibly run the risk of being underscored.
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JonnyCoop said:
Am I the only one that finds her to be _very_ retro (in a very good way). The first time I noticed (as opposed to saw) her was herTorino LP (Eurosport didn't show her SP AFAICT) and she reminded me (in no particular order of Sumner, Manley and Chin with a little aftertaste of Hammil and Poetzsch).
But there was something (I'm not sure what) about her jump technique that screamed "uneven!" and "not podium bound!" I wouldn't mind seeing her make the podium here at all (I'd rather like it) but is there something off in her technique or am I just nuts? (I do not want to hear 'yes!' on that last question).
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Yeah I find I have a hard time convincing myself that Marcoux and Buntin will defeat any of the top three, and not be passed by Savchenko and Szolkowy. I'm not saying it's impossible, and there's no one that would love to see them on the podium more than me, but I just don't see it happening this time around. My prediction is that they will end up fifth, still a great placement for them.
Mafke said:
Uneven might be fair, but speaking for myself personally, bearing in mind I've only seen her twice, I'd have to take a closer look to see if I think her technique might be off or not. I will say this, tho -- her opening jump combination in the Torino SP FLOORED me!! Wow!! One of the best jump combos among the ladies at the Olys, IMHO.
CDMM1991 said:
I agree. Even if they skate well with all their elements in place (and that's a big if), a clean S/S and P/T can still pass them here. Top 5 is probably more likely, but I'd be very happy if they proved me wrong.
And as for Rochette, she will definitely win a medal if she skates as well as she did in the Olympic LP. But we know she struggles with inconsistency, and remember she was out of gas at last year's Worlds. If we consider Cohen and Suguri as virtual locks for the podium, I think that leaves Rochette, Nakano, Meissner, and Kostner to battle for the 3rd spot.
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I've also noticed that Joannie's jumps look different than most others and the way she lands isn't very traditional looking. When she gets rougher/tired, she sometimes drops her shoulders ala Yagudin upon landing, but that may be the result of executing high and powerful jumps like most of hers. However, I don't have a problem with them, and I think when she's at her best, her jumps are just beautiful--just rewatch her loop in her Olympic LPMafke said:
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Now that we've seen the men skate so far, I am starting to doubt if Canada will win a medal in the men's.
On TV interviews Buttle says he is still very fatique from Turin. So I don't know what are the chances he will come back strong for the long. I am just keeping my fingers crossed for him.
As for Sandhu, he's never done 2 good back to back programs. So the chances are slim for him. But, hey! Maybe he will surprise us?!
On TV interviews Buttle says he is still very fatique from Turin. So I don't know what are the chances he will come back strong for the long. I am just keeping my fingers crossed for him.
As for Sandhu, he's never done 2 good back to back programs. So the chances are slim for him. But, hey! Maybe he will surprise us?!
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