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gosh, why is fumie's TES so low? I thought she was as good as Joannie yet their TES is 20 points apart. But then, I'm not much of as technical observer of figure skating. Could anyone care to break down the elements?
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Kiira Korpi finished with not as good as her usual standard.
I love her dress , it goes with her pretty face.
1 Joannie ROCHETTE CAN 119.35 64.71 54.64 6.95 6.50 6.95 6.80 6.95 0.00 #8
2 Kiira KORPI FIN 96.04 46.56 50.48 6.35 6.15 6.30 6.25 6.50 1.00 #10
3 Nina PETUSHKOVA RUS 94.09 52.81 41.28 5.35 4.85 5.30 5.10 5.20 0.00 #4
4 Fumie SUGURI JPN 91.97 42.77 49.20 6.40 5.95 6.05 6.20 6.15 0.00 #9
5 Julia SEBESTYEN HUN 90.22 44.46 45.76 6.00 5.55 5.85 5.55 5.65 0.00 #5
6 Beatrisa LIANG USA 88.30 44.70 45.60 5.90 5.55 5.75 5.70 5.60 2.00 #6
7 Yan LIU CHN 87.74 48.30 39.44 5.25 4.65 4.95 4.85 4.95 0.00 #3
8 Katarina GERBOLDT RUS 73.08 32.20 42.88 5.55 5.25 5.25 5.30 5.45 2.00 #7
9 Kristin WIECZOREK GER 72.23 39.59 34.64 4.45 4.15 4.30 4.40 4.35 2.00 #2
10 Arina MARTINOVA RUS 66.95 34.79 36.16 4.80 4.25 4.35 4.65 4.55 4.00 #1
current rank
FPl. Name Nat. Points SP FS
1 Joannie ROCHETTE CAN
169.91 5 1
2 Kiira KORPI FIN
154.26 3 2
3 Fumie SUGURI JPN
148.15 4 4
4 Nina PETUSHKOVA RUS
138.79 9 3
5 Julia SEBESTYEN HUN
134.98 8 5
6 Beatrisa LIANG USA
134.60 7 6
7 Yan LIU CHN
126.14 10 7
8 Katarina GERBOLDT RUS
121.10 6 8
9 Kristin WIECZOREK GER
109.61 11 9
10 Arina MARTINOVA RUS
101.43 12 10
I love her dress , it goes with her pretty face.1 Joannie ROCHETTE CAN 119.35 64.71 54.64 6.95 6.50 6.95 6.80 6.95 0.00 #8
2 Kiira KORPI FIN 96.04 46.56 50.48 6.35 6.15 6.30 6.25 6.50 1.00 #10
3 Nina PETUSHKOVA RUS 94.09 52.81 41.28 5.35 4.85 5.30 5.10 5.20 0.00 #4
4 Fumie SUGURI JPN 91.97 42.77 49.20 6.40 5.95 6.05 6.20 6.15 0.00 #9
5 Julia SEBESTYEN HUN 90.22 44.46 45.76 6.00 5.55 5.85 5.55 5.65 0.00 #5
6 Beatrisa LIANG USA 88.30 44.70 45.60 5.90 5.55 5.75 5.70 5.60 2.00 #6
7 Yan LIU CHN 87.74 48.30 39.44 5.25 4.65 4.95 4.85 4.95 0.00 #3
8 Katarina GERBOLDT RUS 73.08 32.20 42.88 5.55 5.25 5.25 5.30 5.45 2.00 #7
9 Kristin WIECZOREK GER 72.23 39.59 34.64 4.45 4.15 4.30 4.40 4.35 2.00 #2
10 Arina MARTINOVA RUS 66.95 34.79 36.16 4.80 4.25 4.35 4.65 4.55 4.00 #1
current rank
FPl. Name Nat. Points SP FS
1 Joannie ROCHETTE CAN
169.91 5 1
2 Kiira KORPI FIN
154.26 3 2
3 Fumie SUGURI JPN
148.15 4 4
4 Nina PETUSHKOVA RUS
138.79 9 3
5 Julia SEBESTYEN HUN
134.98 8 5
6 Beatrisa LIANG USA
134.60 7 6
7 Yan LIU CHN
126.14 10 7
8 Katarina GERBOLDT RUS
121.10 6 8
9 Kristin WIECZOREK GER
109.61 11 9
10 Arina MARTINOVA RUS
101.43 12 10
Kiira Korpi
Phantasia
White /gray dress
She is gorgeous.
2R...*sigh*
2Z-2T...hope she can get it together
3F fall, she doesn't seem to have enough speed
Spiral sequence, quite nice
Layback into catchfoot into Kwan position
3S-2T, nice
3R-2T-2R, very nice
2A, saves landing
Combo spin, positions are quite nice
3R, smart change to program
Circular steps, to music but rather slow
Flying sit spin
Final combo spin
Not really her night, and she lacked speed, but she did come back later in the program. She is awfully tall!
96.04 - 2nd in LP, 2nd overall with 154.26
Phantasia
White /gray dress
She is gorgeous.
2R...*sigh*
2Z-2T...hope she can get it together
3F fall, she doesn't seem to have enough speed
Spiral sequence, quite nice
Layback into catchfoot into Kwan position
3S-2T, nice
3R-2T-2R, very nice
2A, saves landing
Combo spin, positions are quite nice
3R, smart change to program
Circular steps, to music but rather slow
Flying sit spin
Final combo spin
Not really her night, and she lacked speed, but she did come back later in the program. She is awfully tall!
96.04 - 2nd in LP, 2nd overall with 154.26
Yukari Nakano, I don't know she is credited for triple axel or not since my internet web tv is not so good.
Overall a clean performance, she should be proud of herself.
1 Joannie ROCHETTE CAN 119.35 64.71 54.64 6.95 6.50 6.95 6.80 6.95 0.00 #8
2 Yukari NAKANO JPN 112.27 57.15 55.12 7.05 6.65 6.90 6.90 6.95 0.00 #11
3 Kiira KORPI FIN 96.04 46.56 50.48 6.35 6.15 6.30 6.25 6.50 1.00 #10
4 Nina PETUSHKOVA RUS 94.09 52.81 41.28 5.35 4.85 5.30 5.10 5.20 0.00 #4
5 Fumie SUGURI JPN 91.97 42.77 49.20 6.40 5.95 6.05 6.20 6.15 0.00 #9
6 Julia SEBESTYEN HUN 90.22 44.46 45.76 6.00 5.55 5.85 5.55 5.65 0.00 #5
7 Beatrisa LIANG USA 88.30 44.70 45.60 5.90 5.55 5.75 5.70 5.60 2.00 #6
8 Yan LIU CHN 87.74 48.30 39.44 5.25 4.65 4.95 4.85 4.95 0.00 #3
9 Katarina GERBOLDT RUS 73.08 32.20 42.88 5.55 5.25 5.25 5.30 5.45 2.00 #7
10 Kristin WIECZOREK GER 72.23 39.59 34.64 4.45 4.15 4.30 4.40 4.35 2.00 #2
11 Arina MARTINOVA RUS 66.95 34.79 36.16 4.80 4.25 4.35 4.65 4.55 4.00 #1
overall
1 Yukari NAKANO JPN
172.77 2 2
2 Joannie ROCHETTE CAN
169.91 5 1
3 Kiira KORPI FIN
154.26 3 3
4 Fumie SUGURI JPN
148.15 4 5
5 Nina PETUSHKOVA RUS
138.79 9 4
6 Julia SEBESTYEN HUN
134.98 8 6
7 Beatrisa LIANG USA
134.60 7 7
8 Yan LIU CHN
126.14 10 8
9 Katarina GERBOLDT RUS
121.10 6 9
10 Kristin WIECZOREK GER
109.61 11 10
11 Arina MARTINOVA RUS
101.43 12 11
Overall a clean performance, she should be proud of herself.
1 Joannie ROCHETTE CAN 119.35 64.71 54.64 6.95 6.50 6.95 6.80 6.95 0.00 #8
2 Yukari NAKANO JPN 112.27 57.15 55.12 7.05 6.65 6.90 6.90 6.95 0.00 #11
3 Kiira KORPI FIN 96.04 46.56 50.48 6.35 6.15 6.30 6.25 6.50 1.00 #10
4 Nina PETUSHKOVA RUS 94.09 52.81 41.28 5.35 4.85 5.30 5.10 5.20 0.00 #4
5 Fumie SUGURI JPN 91.97 42.77 49.20 6.40 5.95 6.05 6.20 6.15 0.00 #9
6 Julia SEBESTYEN HUN 90.22 44.46 45.76 6.00 5.55 5.85 5.55 5.65 0.00 #5
7 Beatrisa LIANG USA 88.30 44.70 45.60 5.90 5.55 5.75 5.70 5.60 2.00 #6
8 Yan LIU CHN 87.74 48.30 39.44 5.25 4.65 4.95 4.85 4.95 0.00 #3
9 Katarina GERBOLDT RUS 73.08 32.20 42.88 5.55 5.25 5.25 5.30 5.45 2.00 #7
10 Kristin WIECZOREK GER 72.23 39.59 34.64 4.45 4.15 4.30 4.40 4.35 2.00 #2
11 Arina MARTINOVA RUS 66.95 34.79 36.16 4.80 4.25 4.35 4.65 4.55 4.00 #1
overall
1 Yukari NAKANO JPN
172.77 2 2
2 Joannie ROCHETTE CAN
169.91 5 1
3 Kiira KORPI FIN
154.26 3 3
4 Fumie SUGURI JPN
148.15 4 5
5 Nina PETUSHKOVA RUS
138.79 9 4
6 Julia SEBESTYEN HUN
134.98 8 6
7 Beatrisa LIANG USA
134.60 7 7
8 Yan LIU CHN
126.14 10 8
9 Katarina GERBOLDT RUS
121.10 6 9
10 Kristin WIECZOREK GER
109.61 11 10
11 Arina MARTINOVA RUS
101.43 12 11
Yukari Nakano
Capriccio Espagnol
Very bright salmon outfit
3A, better than SC! But still not completely rotated...I think it was more than enough
3F-2T, I personally think her wrap adds character to her skating...
Combo spin with great positions throughout except the layback
3Z, nice
3S, nice
Flying sit spin
Combo spin, she is a great spinner
Spiral sequence, decent
3F, nice
3T-2T-2R, very clean and good flow
Circular steps, very musical if not that fast
3S-2T, clean skate! The toe axel was a bit more conspicuous here
Flying camel into her to-die-for donut
YES! She will probably get a slightly lower FS score than Joannie but finish ahead over her thanks to that 10 point SP lead....
She seems happy in the KnC for the first time like, ever
112.27 - 2nd in LP but 1st overall with 172.77
Capriccio Espagnol
Very bright salmon outfit
3A, better than SC! But still not completely rotated...I think it was more than enough
3F-2T, I personally think her wrap adds character to her skating...
Combo spin with great positions throughout except the layback
3Z, nice
3S, nice
Flying sit spin
Combo spin, she is a great spinner
Spiral sequence, decent
3F, nice
3T-2T-2R, very clean and good flow
Circular steps, very musical if not that fast
3S-2T, clean skate! The toe axel was a bit more conspicuous here
Flying camel into her to-die-for donut
YES! She will probably get a slightly lower FS score than Joannie but finish ahead over her thanks to that 10 point SP lead....
She seems happy in the KnC for the first time like, ever
112.27 - 2nd in LP but 1st overall with 172.77
Yu-Na Kim
Miss Saigon Piano Fantasy
Pink dress that fits music
CMOOOOON YU-NA!!
3F-3T, gorgeous as always
3R, nice
Flying sit into pancake
She handles the changes in the music well
3Z-2T, quite nice
Spiral sequence, much better than last year
2A-3T, lovely
3Z, slightly scratchy but cleanly done!
3S, lovely and light
Changefoot sit, a bit slow but good positions
SLSS looks smoother than CoC
Ina Bauer into 2A
Very nice combo spin to close
WHOOOOO! She seems very happy (and so does Brian Orser!). Easily a PB. Partial standing ovation.
133.70 - 1st with a HUGE HUGE HUGE score and 1st overall with 197.20, even she seems shocked by the score. Both are big PBs!
Miss Saigon Piano Fantasy
Pink dress that fits music
CMOOOOON YU-NA!!
3F-3T, gorgeous as always
3R, nice
Flying sit into pancake
She handles the changes in the music well
3Z-2T, quite nice
Spiral sequence, much better than last year
2A-3T, lovely
3Z, slightly scratchy but cleanly done!
3S, lovely and light
Changefoot sit, a bit slow but good positions
SLSS looks smoother than CoC
Ina Bauer into 2A
Very nice combo spin to close
WHOOOOO! She seems very happy (and so does Brian Orser!). Easily a PB. Partial standing ovation.
133.70 - 1st with a HUGE HUGE HUGE score and 1st overall with 197.20, even she seems shocked by the score. Both are big PBs!
Yuna seems a bit slow for me today, but she got her new PB! Nearly reach 200!
1 Yu-Na KIM KOR 133.70 72.90 60.80 7.75 7.35 7.70 7.55 7.65 0.00 #12
2 Joannie ROCHETTE CAN 119.35 64.71 54.64 6.95 6.50 6.95 6.80 6.95 0.00 #8
3 Yukari NAKANO JPN 112.27 57.15 55.12 7.05 6.65 6.90 6.90 6.95 0.00 #11
4 Kiira KORPI FIN 96.04 46.56 50.48 6.35 6.15 6.30 6.25 6.50 1.00 #10
5 Nina PETUSHKOVA RUS 94.09 52.81 41.28 5.35 4.85 5.30 5.10 5.20 0.00 #4
6 Fumie SUGURI JPN 91.97 42.77 49.20 6.40 5.95 6.05 6.20 6.15 0.00 #9
7 Julia SEBESTYEN HUN 90.22 44.46 45.76 6.00 5.55 5.85 5.55 5.65 0.00 #5
8 Beatrisa LIANG USA 88.30 44.70 45.60 5.90 5.55 5.75 5.70 5.60 2.00 #6
9 Yan LIU CHN 87.74 48.30 39.44 5.25 4.65 4.95 4.85 4.95 0.00 #3
10 Katarina GERBOLDT RUS 73.08 32.20 42.88 5.55 5.25 5.25 5.30 5.45 2.00 #7
11 Kristin WIECZOREK GER 72.23 39.59 34.64 4.45 4.15 4.30 4.40 4.35 2.00 #2
12 Arina MARTINOVA RUS 66.95 34.79 36.16 4.80 4.25 4.35 4.65 4.55 4.00 #1
overall
1 Yu-Na KIM KOR
197.20 1 1
2 Yukari NAKANO JPN
172.77 2 3
3 Joannie ROCHETTE CAN
169.91 5 2
4 Kiira KORPI FIN
154.26 3 4
5 Fumie SUGURI JPN
148.15 4 6
6 Nina PETUSHKOVA RUS
138.79 9 5
7 Julia SEBESTYEN HUN
134.98 8 7
8 Beatrisa LIANG USA
134.60 7 8
9 Yan LIU CHN
126.14 10 9
10 Katarina GERBOLDT RUS
121.10 6 10
11 Kristin WIECZOREK GER
109.61 11 11
12 Arina MARTINOVA RUS
101.43 12 12
1 Yu-Na KIM KOR 133.70 72.90 60.80 7.75 7.35 7.70 7.55 7.65 0.00 #12
2 Joannie ROCHETTE CAN 119.35 64.71 54.64 6.95 6.50 6.95 6.80 6.95 0.00 #8
3 Yukari NAKANO JPN 112.27 57.15 55.12 7.05 6.65 6.90 6.90 6.95 0.00 #11
4 Kiira KORPI FIN 96.04 46.56 50.48 6.35 6.15 6.30 6.25 6.50 1.00 #10
5 Nina PETUSHKOVA RUS 94.09 52.81 41.28 5.35 4.85 5.30 5.10 5.20 0.00 #4
6 Fumie SUGURI JPN 91.97 42.77 49.20 6.40 5.95 6.05 6.20 6.15 0.00 #9
7 Julia SEBESTYEN HUN 90.22 44.46 45.76 6.00 5.55 5.85 5.55 5.65 0.00 #5
8 Beatrisa LIANG USA 88.30 44.70 45.60 5.90 5.55 5.75 5.70 5.60 2.00 #6
9 Yan LIU CHN 87.74 48.30 39.44 5.25 4.65 4.95 4.85 4.95 0.00 #3
10 Katarina GERBOLDT RUS 73.08 32.20 42.88 5.55 5.25 5.25 5.30 5.45 2.00 #7
11 Kristin WIECZOREK GER 72.23 39.59 34.64 4.45 4.15 4.30 4.40 4.35 2.00 #2
12 Arina MARTINOVA RUS 66.95 34.79 36.16 4.80 4.25 4.35 4.65 4.55 4.00 #1
overall
1 Yu-Na KIM KOR
197.20 1 1
2 Yukari NAKANO JPN
172.77 2 3
3 Joannie ROCHETTE CAN
169.91 5 2
4 Kiira KORPI FIN
154.26 3 4
5 Fumie SUGURI JPN
148.15 4 6
6 Nina PETUSHKOVA RUS
138.79 9 5
7 Julia SEBESTYEN HUN
134.98 8 7
8 Beatrisa LIANG USA
134.60 7 8
9 Yan LIU CHN
126.14 10 9
10 Katarina GERBOLDT RUS
121.10 6 10
11 Kristin WIECZOREK GER
109.61 11 11
12 Arina MARTINOVA RUS
101.43 12 12
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Wow!
Yeap, and can we make it official and say that Yu-na has established herself as the world's best skater this season, with Mao Asada falling behind her to a 2nd best. (So far, mind you.. All could change come GP Final and Worlds.)
A resounding victory for Yu-Na!And I am so happy for Joannie! I hoped she would come back with a roar in the FS
Thanks a lot for the pbp and comments!
Seems like Joannie is just at the cut-off point for the GP final and that she might get cut off.
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- Nov 9, 2007
Thank you mizu_iro for program component break-downs. I'm not a technical observer of figure skating and it helps a lot. I still don't get how Yukari's FS score could be lower than Joannie's. I think Yu-na, Yukari and Joannie all did 7 triples and Joannie either steped out or put her hand down on a couple of them. Is it the difficulty in the levels of the kinds of triples they did that made the difference? And as much as I am Yu-na's fan, I thought there was too much gap between her scores and Yukari and Joannie. Maybe it's because I don't understand how the points are distributed.
It's because of Yukari's downgrades. She was short of rotation on two jumps, so she only received credit for them as doubles. I don't really disagree with that...her wrap does give her rotation problems. Joannie's triples, when landed, are always rotated, and this was a kickass free from her even with the slight mistakes.
It's not about quantity, but quality. Joanni has better jump technique than Yukari.
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I see. Thank you so much. Wow, those judges have sharp eyes. Figure skating IS a sport afterall. Just looking at how they presented themselves, I thought Yukari looked elegant and secure (minus those wrapping legs when she jumps) and I love her salmon costume color and style. But technically she's not complete, I see.
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