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One consideration is that they have the event with no spectators but with live TV coverage for all. Other sport events are taking this approach. Strange, I know but it may be the only reasonable compromise.

I think this is a good option. The young healthy athletes can all be tested and they aren't in an at risk group.

Spectators on the other hand are more likely to be in the at risk group and can't all be tested.
 
LOL! Yeah, my wife keeps going to the dog club and dog shows and cares not that she will expose and kill the person that mows the lawn....:laugh2:
We humans are a funny race. I risk sudden death every time I ride my motorcycle...I have seen way more people die than I can count or want to going to and from the Experimental Aircraft Ass. fly in, 10,000 aircraft attend every year, or at the Reno National Air races. Its a risk we are willing to take....but for myself. I want to slow down this thing just in case it does go away with the warm moist weather....maybe save someone by not speading it asymtomatically before I die from it with my preexisting conditions. I am socially distanceing myself from my people activities for now and see what happens. I have a friend who is on 4 each immune system suppression drugs.....she is toast if she gets the bug. I can stay away from her...but who else out there who is on these drugs do I NOT know about? If this doesnt go away or worse, mutates to something far worse, WE will be toast. Chris out on the ranch with a year's supply of toilet paper.

I can see where it would be hard because I will talk about being on Humira and methotrexate and stuff here, but I don't tell every person I know or see that I'm on them, or wear a t-shirt that says "avoid me, I'm on immunosuppressant drugs." So I can pretty well bet there are other people you know who don't tell you what immunosuppressants they are on.
 
If Worlds is cancelled, forget about getting ticket money refunded. NOT HAPPENING!!

Why do you think that? My friend has my ticket, does it say anything on the ticket that if the event is cancelled you are out of luck?
 
I have no other obligations and besides not being overly invested in this Worlds with none of my favorites being there (well, ok, PJ, but it's more of a matter of whether he makes the free skate) but reading up on the Seattle Nursing home case where people were dead within an hour of displaying symptoms, for my own immunocompromised, Humira taking self, at this point I don't think I'd go if someone gave me tickets. That doesn't mean they shouldn't hold it of course.

I am with you...if someone gave me tickets, I would not go. I am a very corny person. I look at what America's greatest generation did for me and the world. Not going to worlds is such a small sacrifice for my country compared to what others did for me. This is 100 year old General Charles Mcgee, Tuskegee Airman, and I this past summer,,,he was honored at the State of the Union address...I have had the honor of meeting him at Oshkosh a number of times and hearing him lecture. He protected my Uncle over the skies of Europe during WWII. I voted for him for president. (not that he would run...he is too modest) . If my country asks me to stay away from cruise ships, or not attend large events, it is the least I can do. Why would I put him or his kids or grand kids at risk? (BTW, moonvine, you are correct. Those residents were asymptomatic and shedding viruses, killing others, till they themselves got sick and died...70 more are being tested and many died before we even knew about the virus in WA.)
 
Why do you think that? My friend has my ticket, does it say anything on the ticket that if the event is cancelled you are out of luck?

I'm sure they would give refunds. If the ISU wants to cheat its most loyal fans then the organization's days are numbered.
 
Why do you think that? My friend has my ticket, does it say anything on the ticket that if the event is cancelled you are out of luck?

The tickets say "no refund and no exchanges" (unless the event is rescheduled).
 
The tickets say "no refund and no exchanges" (unless the event is rescheduled).

If you're not going to provide the service then it should be refunded, especially because it'd be cancelled beforehand. Tickets to concerts say they aren't refundable, but when cancelled you get a refund. If anything, if you reschedule an event it's not refundable (but your ticket is honored for the new date), but if you cancel outright it is refunded. We absolutely should be refunded and if we're not I am never going to another ISU event ever again, especially considering these prices were highway robbery in the first place.
 
My take after following the news...stuff has changed so fast, hour to hour, just today, that there is absolutely no way the championship is going to go forward. I would bet any amount of money on it.
 
indian wells refunded tickets (or offered credit for next year).

i cannot see how ISU/Skate Canada wouldn't refund ticket holders... ridiculous.
I can see however, if the event is happening that they would NOT refund those who bought tickets and DECIDE to stay home... that's a completely different story.
 
I am quite sure in Canada they will refund your money as a spectator if they cancel the event or reschedule particularly for such an occasion. If you no show I doubt it. This is an International athletic event so they could do it without spectators and televise. Sadly you should always buy cancel for any reason travel insurance.
 
Kind of interesting....SARS CoV 2003 hit Canada pretty hard. They stockpiled masks which are now out of date.
World wide, 8000 were infected and 774 died, many of which were outside of Canada. I think the deaths in the US were minimul.

Now we have SARS CoV 2. 2020 version Many more infected and more to come. Many more dead. But the numbers of the 2003 Pandemic, 26 countries, are just as suspect as the 2020 numbers....how many really had it?
In any case, the 2003 version was controled by July 2003...it is thought to have started Nov 2002. ? How? Isolation and international cooperation. (WHO) A big difference between the two viruses is that the SARS CoV also caused diareah.
Also it is thought that the bat and the civet were the carriers of the viruses that mutated somehow. Now it is the bat and the Pandolin....

https://nationalpost.com/news/world...all-expired-as-covid-19-nears-pandemic-status
 
I am quite sure in Canada they will refund your money as a spectator if they cancel the event or reschedule particularly for such an occasion. If you no show I doubt it. This is an International athletic event so they could do it without spectators and televise. Sadly you should always buy cancel for any reason travel insurance.

I think that will also depend on whether the ISU cancels it or the Canadian Government orders them to. If the latter...well, I know in Australia that would create a very grey situation where the ISU would not be obliged to refund tickets because it is an event outside their control.
 
indian wells refunded tickets (or offered credit for next year).

i cannot see how ISU/Skate Canada wouldn't refund ticket holders... ridiculous.
I can see however, if the event is happening that they would NOT refund those who bought tickets and DECIDE to stay home... that's a completely different story.
Was wrangling in my my mind how/if to attend when I read it was cancelled. If only we could have met there to compare aesthetic notes ;).
 
New statement from the ISU

https://www.isu.org/isu-news/news/1...pionships-coronavirus-impact?templateParam=15

The first paragraph is basically the same as what they have been telling us all along - that they are "closely monitoring the situation" with regards all their upcoming Majors.

HOWEVER, the second paragraph is significant:

As to the ISU World Figure Skating Championships scheduled to be held in Montreal on March 16-22, 2020, the ISU learned that the Quebec Health Ministry has scheduled a meeting for this morning Quebec time to discuss all major events in the province. The ISU will not fail to communicate and comment on conclusions of this meeting as soon as publicly available.

Looks like we will find out today if we are going ahead or not.

But, the fact that this meeting is happening at all suggests to me that it doesn't look good.

CaroLiza_fan
 
A lot of this is out of our control. If it was the correct thing to do they may cancel it even the day before.

I’d just assume it’s going ahead until told otherwise. If you are in a vulnerable group not to attend regardless if it goes ahead.

Refund or not safety comes first.
 
A lot of this is out of our control. If it was the correct thing to do they may cancel it even the day before.

I’d just assume it’s going ahead until told otherwise. If you are in a vulnerable group not to attend regardless if it goes ahead.

Refund or not safety comes first.

Agreed! Safety is the most important thing. :agree:

But, cancelling it at the last minute would not have the desired effect of protecting people, as everybody who was travelling to Montréal for the event would already be in the city! The only thing that would achieve would be to create a mass of people that are angry at travelling all the way there to find that they didn't need to.

So, making the call now, a week in advance, is the right thing to do.

CaroLiza_fan
 
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