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I may get crucified for it some places (like FSU, eek!) but really, Len was tough but fair on the cha cha question. It really was lacking cha cha content and was a bit too raunchy. Save it for samba, guys. And anyone else notice Julianne apparently goes to Dom/Shabs' hairdresser?

Oh, and anyone else interested in a pay-per-view smackdown of Leila Ali beating the crap out of Maks "It's All About MEEE!" Chernkovsky (or however he spells his last name)?
 
Tonight was Great and it's going to be close on who goes tomorrow night and who takes on the trophey.
A smackdown between Layla and Max, :rofl:
Is next week the end and do the viewers get to vote in the final who wins it all?
This is the first season I've watch for the start.
 
Joey got it a little more together tonight. He did less of his goofy antics and I enjoyed his performances. I enjoyed all of them tonight but I do think that Ian is going home. Apolo just has the best posture of all of them besides being a real cutie pie.

Dee
 
As weird as it feels to say this, the Fat Man won last night.
He does kinda grow on you,has a gorgeous partner, is a great showman, has a gorgeous partner, and if he just quit with all the grimacing, he might have something.
Did I mention he has a gorgeous partner?
Another weird thing is that I actually agree with Len about Apolo's Cha-Cha.
It's supposed to be cheeky, not X-rated.
Still a good performance, coulda been a '10' if they would have taken the raunch down just a notch.
A complete mystery to me where exactly Ian's and Leila's high scores came from, neither one of them did anything worth a '9', much less '10's across the board.
It's 'Chmerkovsky' , btw.
I'll see if I can find my cyrillic keyboard program (everything got kind of messed up by the recent motherboard transplant) and type it in Russian - if this forum will take those characters.
 
I think the Leila thing is what Carrie Anne said. She has to go out there and move it in competition with ladies who have trained to dance all their lives. For the boys, they can get away (at least in the early rounds they could) with just showing off their partners.
 
Wolfgang said:
It's 'Chmerkovsky' , btw.
I'll see if I can find my cyrillic keyboard program (everything got kind of messed up by the recent motherboard transplant) and type it in Russian - if this forum will take those characters.
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Чмерковский

I always use Translit.ru - it's a great site; you just type Latin characters, and by magic Cyrillic ones appear on screen :)
 
Mathman said:
I think the Leila thing is what Carrie Anne said. She has to go out there and move it in competition with ladies who have trained to dance all their lives. For the boys, they can get away (at least in the early rounds they could) with just showing off their partners.
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Uh...speaking from the female perspective and the 'am' half of pro-am competitive ballroom, I would a thousand times rather be the girl. So long as I can get in the correct frame, a professional male dancer can do anything with me. The boys have to lead. Now, a girl can still screw up (see me tonight nearly wiping out in bolero because I had my weight on the wrong foot) but she still has it easier than the guys.

Buh-bye, Ian!
 
julietvalcouer said:
Buh-bye, Ian!
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Yep, too little too late. The Elvis gig was a good departure for him and finally showed some fun and didn't look like practice. It was good to see him go out on a good note. Cheryl did a great job with him IMO. It sounded like he had some "personality traits" that would impair his ability to be a full fledged dancer.

Down to the best 3 for sure, wow Joey brought it on. Well deserving of staying in it IMO - he is the dance studio's answer to a dream. He has shown so much improvement and weight loss the studios across the county should be seeing a big sign-up rush.

And it is nice to see Kym if I can't see Cheryl.;)

I don't know if Maks can lead Laila efficiently. One of the "pull in moves" - chest to chest / check to cheek - I thought Maks was going to bounce of of her and get the wind knocked out of him.:laugh: Odd but her dancing reminds me of Emmit's.
 
julietvalcouer said:
...speaking from the female perspective and the 'am' half of pro-am competitive ballroom, I would a thousand times rather be the girl.
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But that's also from the perspective of a trained dancer, yes? I think a lady has to learn how to follow just like a gentleman has to learn how to lead.

I know when Mrs. MM tosses me around the floor, I'm like, "I AM leading, I AM leading!"
SeaniBu said:
I don't know if Maks can lead Laila efficiently. One of the "pull in moves" - chest to chest / check to cheek - I thought Maks was going to bounce of of her and get the wind knocked out of him.:laugh:
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Case in point. I don't think Laila is used being "led." :laugh:
 
Mathman said:
I know when Mrs. MM tosses me around the floor, I'm like, "I AM leading, I AM leading!"
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...........and I bet she still continues to lead. What I'm curious about ............who gets dipped?? :laugh::laugh::laugh:

Dee
 
Don't know what y'all's problem is with Maksim, Miss Ali does not look (or act) like an easy lead, so he's got his work cut out for him, and as for attitude, shy wallflower geeks do typically not choose professional dancing as a line of work......
I'm fairly certain that Misses Kym, Cheryl, and yes, even the lovely Julianne have a healthy dose of exhibitionist narcissism in them, else they wouldn't be where and who they are.
I think we went over the question of who's got it easier in a dance competition, the guys or the gals, somewhere close to the beginning of this thread, I go dancing myself 4-6 times a week, and I'd say that generally, a good pro leader can make any girl look pretty good, whereas a pro lady can only do so much backleading to make a hopeless guy look good.
It would then be the responsibility of the judges to look for that, I have throughout Dancing with the Stars tried to pay attention to the celebs, not the pros.
Difficult, especially when you're faced with choices like wanting to look at Kym Johnson, but having to look at Joey the Fat One, or wanting to watch Edyta Sliwinska versus John Ratzenberger.......
I'm assuming the DWtS judges did just that.
I know Mr. Tonioli was watching Miss Ali.......;)
Not necessarily her dancing, but watching her he sure was.
 
All dancers are egotists, and some of us are narcissists, and I'm including myself in the later category (along with my ex-pro--we have huge egos, but they're rather fragile, and we're both desperate for approval--as such better that we are exes), but a good pro who is competing pro-am never forget that s/he is NOT the one being judged. Maks forgets. Big time. I give him the paso doble as that IS all about the man, but when he has a partner who's capable of moving, choreography that spends twelve bars getting him over to her, while she is stationary, is just bad choreography.

MM, I'm "trained" in that I've been ballroom dancing for six months. I would say only recently have I truly learned how to follow well, but comparing my experience learning to follow with my friend Brian's learning to lead, I would rather be learning to follow. It is mostly just a matter of learning to frame. Once a woman provides a decent frame, the man can put her anywhere. Only, however, when the guy can lead. I am also learning how to help out a partner who can't. There are ways, without overtly resorting to a female lead.

Re: Ian and Cheryl....Cheryl's smooth/standard choreography kinda bites. They really need to start getting a better mix of dancers, because I'm looking at the bios and almost everyone is a Latin specialist. Brian Fortuna was a amateur ten-dance champion, and someone else listed both Standard and Latin, but otherwise, I think they were all Rhythm/Latin.
 
I'm determined. I practice a lot. I take lessons from the two best instructors at the studio. And maybe someday I'll feel like I'm half as good as they are. I'll be happy if I finish better than dead last at Manhattan in July. Okay, well, I WANT to win, but that's not particularly likely for a while, so I'm aiming for "better than last." In the closed bronze four-dance Smooth championship, if it's danced in elimination heats, I'd like to make at least one cut.

And, okay, I really really really want to face my old pro and one of his new teacher's pets in the Rhythm division. And finish ahead of them. With my Rhythm instructor, who is better than my ex and more highly ranked, that's not impossible. Must keep working at it.
 
Latin is 'cool'.
That's why everybody and their cousin is a 'latin specialist', that's why they have José (or was it Juan ?) Cortez, the flamenco dancer on DwtS, as well as Enrique Igles....Iglas...Igloo...well, you know who he is...;).
In this city - which is admittedly very heavily 'latin' - you basically have 3 choices if you want to go dancing, that would be hip-hop, country, or salsa.
For anything else, you pretty much have to 'bring your own' or go to a dance studio.
 
Salsa isn't Latin. It's a social dance. I don't really bother with it and when the rhythm comes up at studio parties I usually opt for mambo (same music, but mambo moves on the two.)

We're talking competitive International Latin here, not some cultural thing. They aren't danced the same way at all, movies like "Dance With Me" notwithstanding. The producers seem to select from the Latin and Rhythm divisions, and while most ballroom professionals can do at least two styles (Latin and Standard, or Smooth and Rhythm, most teach at least a little of all four) competitively they usually specialize. If the producers are going to ask the Stars to dance Smooth/Standard as well, it might behoove them to pull a little more talent from those divisions and get a better balance.

Of course, I suppose the most important thing is finding pros who are highly competitive, good teachers, and available to the celebrities without someone being forced to relocate for the duration. Though honestly I think it would be more fair to expect the celeb to move to accomodate the dancer, as chances are he/she has other students. On the one hand, you get lots of publicity, but on the other, you totally disrupt your schedule. It's not like skating, true, where you've only got one shot at regionals not to screw up, but still....

I am from Detroit, and I have never polka'd. Despite being Polish. Would give it a shot, though. I did a Polonaise once, with someone from a Polish dance troupe that visited my university.
 
Salsa isn't latin?
Since when?
I'll run this by my dance teacher tonight (who claims to be latin, despite being Irish, Polish and Hopi......), see what she says, she oughta know, she's a salsa freak.
Mambo?
I'm guessing you only do this with someone you know knows how......
Every once in a while I get to polka or waltz at one of the country bars, the challenge is finding a partner who a) says yes and b) has feet quick enough and the stamina to keep up.
 
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