Dmitri Aliev
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Popping in to say that I have my fingers crossed to see Dima in the GPF. I love to watch his programs as he always seems so in tune with the music and his flow is so lovely!
I was worried when he popped his second jump into a triple toe. But he didn’t let that affected him and improvised to get in a second quad toe. What a fighter he was today! It was such a pity that his second 3lz got invalidated due to repetition. Had he done a 4T+2T, he would have won the event.
But still, a 3+2 will most likely be good enough for qualifying GPF. Look forward to it!
But still, a 3+2 will most likely be good enough for qualifying GPF. Look forward to it!
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I'm very happy for Dima (probably) making GPF, of course. I feel like I'm taking crazy pills when I see how strictly he is judged compared to some others (pills that make me nauseous!)...but it is what it is. He's fighting and I believe he's getting stronger overall. At least GPF should be a little less politically biased than skating in the US or in Russia where he is clearly not the chosen one...so we'll see. Not that I expect him to win gold or silver, but bronze could be anyone's.
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FWIW, the Russian judge had barely Dima ahead in the SP (94.77 to 94.73), though he had him 0.45 behind in the FS. But basically gave them the same scores.
Also for PCS, the Russian judge had Dima first in the SP with Samarin 3rd (difference was 0.5) and in the FS (difference was 1.0). Imo the difference should be bigger, but still interesting.
Also for PCS, the Russian judge had Dima first in the SP with Samarin 3rd (difference was 0.5) and in the FS (difference was 1.0). Imo the difference should be bigger, but still interesting.
Jackie Wong's IceTalk featured Dima in the recent episode. The interview was done before Rostelecom Cup and was in both Russian and English:
https://www.rockerskating.com/icetalk
http://icetalk.libsyn.com/cup-of-china-wrap-up-rostelecom-preview-featuring-dmitri-aliev
Dima's part starts at 29:58.
They talked about how he managed to get through the last rough season, experience of the olympics season and his unique sense of musicality and music choice.
https://www.rockerskating.com/icetalk
http://icetalk.libsyn.com/cup-of-china-wrap-up-rostelecom-preview-featuring-dmitri-aliev
Dima's part starts at 29:58.
They talked about how he managed to get through the last rough season, experience of the olympics season and his unique sense of musicality and music choice.
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Dima made it! I'm so excited to see him skate in the GPF! Fingers crossed for a good clean skate.
I’m not making any predictions, just looking forward to seeing the competition.
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I'm a bit behind on watching the grand prixs but I just finally watched Rostelecom Cup this weekend. And I can't understand why Dima's second triple lutz was invalidated in the free skate. I guess I just don't understand the rules good enough. I'm familiar with the Zayak rule and have read the general jump rules about repeats. But I thought the rule was that any double can't be repeated more than twice. And only two triples or quads can be executed twice and one has to be in combination. if the rule is that you can't repeat a jump unless it's in combination, then why wasn't one of Samarin's jumps invalidated for the same reason:
Dima's jumps:
1. 3Lz
2. 3T
3. 4T+3T
4. 4T
5. 3A
6. 3Lz+1Eu+3S
7. 3Lo+2T
Samarin's:
1. 4Lz+3T
2. 3F
3. 3T
4. 3A
5. 3A+2T
6. 3Lz+2T
7. 3Lo
Can someone help break it down for me?
Dima's jumps:
1. 3Lz
2. 3T
3. 4T+3T
4. 4T
5. 3A
6. 3Lz+1Eu+3S
7. 3Lo+2T
Samarin's:
1. 4Lz+3T
2. 3F
3. 3T
4. 3A
5. 3A+2T
6. 3Lz+2T
7. 3Lo
Can someone help break it down for me?
I think Samarin's jumps look fine and your description of the rule looks good to me too. He repeated 3T, 3A and 2T. The 2T doesn't count toward the limitation of two types of triple or quad. one 3T and one 3A are in combo. Which particular jump you think has an issue?
And Dima repeated 3T, 4T and 3Lz, and that exceed the limitation of two types of triple of quad, so the last 3Lz got invalidated. It also agrees with the rule you described.
And Dima repeated 3T, 4T and 3Lz, and that exceed the limitation of two types of triple of quad, so the last 3Lz got invalidated. It also agrees with the rule you described.
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Thank you for the explanation. I think I was getting confused on the "no more than two executions of a triple or quad" rule and just had to work it through in my head again.
It is nice to see Dima got his 4lz back, and got all the revolutions and landings of the jumps done. But what happened to the levels of the spins and footwork? So many points were left on the table. I hope he can truly set himself free in the free skate and skate a clean program. Fingers crossed too.
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