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I like it, who ever said B/S are beatable ? well as for their programs its way better than the other russian ice dance couples so far,
they are in track to stay as russian no.1 for a record number of years now !!!
 
I like it, who ever said B/S are beatable ? well as for their programs its way better than the other russian ice dance couples so far,
they are in track to stay as russian no.1 for a record number of years now !!!

I think all the people that thought some miraculous programs would come out of nowhere without even seeing anything of actual skating. What B/S are doing might not be the most refined, artistically challenging - debatable - or pleasing programs, but they are putting them out there without fear and they are mostly ready to compete now. Russian ID can't live off of delusion, they need their couples ready for yesterday.
 
I think all the people that thought some miraculous programs would come out of nowhere without even seeing anything of actual skating. What B/S are doing might not be the most refined, artistically challenging - debatable - or pleasing programs, but they are putting them out there without fear and they are mostly ready to compete now. Russian ID can't live off of delusion, they need their couples ready for yesterday.

Spill that tea :coffee: And for me their programs are artistically challenging (A Man with a Harmonica, Anna Karenina) and almost always pleasing. :) Besides, they have skills to actually consistently skate them clean.
 
I REALLY like the free but the last minute or so needs work, it was almost like they crashed. I'd need to see it with them better prepared for it to make a definite judgment on if it's the choreo or just them...

With that said I think for this early in the season it looks good and I was super impressed by the first 2/3 so I'm very optimistic this will shape up into something great :love:
 
I think all the people that thought some miraculous programs would come out of nowhere without even seeing anything of actual skating. What B/S are doing might not be the most refined, artistically challenging - debatable - or pleasing programs, but they are putting them out there without fear and they are mostly ready to compete now. Russian ID can't live off of delusion, they need their couples ready for yesterday.

I guess it will good 'ol B/S again to carry the russian ID burden with S/K and I/Z continuing their dramas and questionable status of preparation or health. I have also look at their juniors, Loboda/Drozd have regressed alot especially her with the horrid postures, the nearest they have with a future is Shipilayeva / Smirnov....
 
I REALLY like the free but the last minute or so needs work, it was almost like they crashed. I'd need to see it with them better prepared for it to make a definite judgment on if it's the choreo or just them...

With that said I think for this early in the season it looks good and I was super impressed by the first 2/3 so I'm very optimistic this will shape up into something great :love:

They skated first 3 mins of the FD on the shows last month, maybe that's why. Glad you like it. :)
 
They skated first 3 mins of the FD on the shows last month, maybe that's why. Glad you like it. :)

That actually might explain it, the first 3 minutes were SO polished and big and then like I said it was just a major difference at least to me :) That's actually good news though since it probably means that with more practice the last minute can be just as good!
 
I guess it will good 'ol B/S again to carry the russian ID burden with S/K and I/Z continuing their dramas and questionable status of preparation or health. I have also look at their juniors, Loboda/Drozd have regressed alot especially her with the horrid postures, the nearest they have with a future is Shipilayeva / Smirnov....

We didn't even see them skating yet, they were not ready at that early event. We need to see them at jGP first to make such assumptions, because IMO skills-wise they're clearly the best junior Russian team right now. Shpilevaya needs year or two to catch them.
 
We didn't even see them skating yet, they were not ready at that early event. We need to see them at jGP first to make such assumptions, because IMO skills-wise they're clearly the best junior Russian team right now. Shpilevaya needs year or two to catch them.

I saw their event they competed in domestic, they were slow, laboured, not so good posture and she didn't look fit - she's in growing pains ???, I think Drozd was ok though. Maybe they were not yet ready, but getting that 148+ on a domestic, that really is not good: minus inflation- it will only be around 141+ in JGP.
 
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We didn't even see them skating yet, they were not ready at that early event. We need to see them at jGP first to make such assumptions, because IMO skills-wise they're clearly the best junior Russian team right now. Shpilevaya needs year or two to catch them.

Shpilevaya / Smirnov imo, are the best russian juniors since some time, they have floating and effortless skating skills - a necessity in ice dance. But like most russian ice dance, they need to tech up those levels. Smirnov is one of the most expressive male dancers after Cizeron !!!
 
I saw their event they competed in domestic, they were slow, laboured, not so good posture and she didn't look fit - she's in growing pains ???, I think Drozd was ok though.
maybe they were not yet ready, but getting that 148+ on a domestic, that really is not good: minus inflation- it will only be around 141+ in JGP.

You'll see they will be okay. They're more mature and more skilled team than Shpilevaya/Smirnov. It was an august, they skipped elements. Last season it was the same, they basically flopped at domestic event, but after that won silver at jGPF and bronze at jWC. So I would say it's TOO EARLY to say they regressed.

Shpilevaya / Smirnov imo, are the best russian juniors since some time, they have floating and effortless skating skills - a necessity in ice dance. But like most russian ice dance, they need to tech up those levels. Smirnov is one of the most expressive male dancers after Cizeron !!!

I'm not talking about expressiveness here, their curves and steps are short, they don't have such power as Loboda/Drozd, and overall their skating is more 'juniorish'. They have potential, but they're not best junior team right now.
 
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I also liked the first part of B/S´s new FD. The part to Vivaldi still needs work and I`m not so excited about the music choice, since it`s Vivaldi again, but overall I think it`s going to be a good FD for them.
 
That FD will be amazing when they have the conditioning and speed added. I really really love the choreography.
 
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