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Elena Ilinykh & Ruslan Zhiganshin

Two things to remember when it comes to TSL: a) They are totally ignorant about Ice Dance. b) Dave is a Nikita loverboy and he's not over him yet.

The only couple they like to a certain level - and that might change any moment with Dave and Jenny - is P&C. So, don't take them seriously at all. They don't like C&B either tbh so it's not about Boston.
Haha, they didn't mention Nikita. But Dave could do an interview with him, that would be something!

Oh no, TSL like C/B now. They're huge bandwagoners in general.
Yes, they were very complimentary about them in one of their recent episodes. Talking about them being world champions in Boston. That's why I found their comments about I/Z so funny.
 
No need to exaggerate and insult everyone on FSUniverse with that. There are also many true Elena and Ruslan fans on that forum. I have been a member there for longer than I have been a member of this forum, and I also like I/Z a lot.

Hello Laura, I wasn't talking about FSU. Please there are a few psychotic posters yes, but there are other places much, much more toxic than FSU.:biggrin: And besides which there are some here on GS whose stamina is legendary.
 
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Haha, they didn't mention Nikita. But Dave could do an interview with him, that would be something!

Of course he wouldn't say that openly but I know that for sure. Trust me. ;) He (they) love Elena too. He just needs more time and some medals from IZ to get over it. :laugh:
 
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The number one complainer on the other forum is a big Tiffany Zahorski fan, and she liked Ruslena until it was announced that Tiffany wanted to switch to Russia, soooo I'll let you all draw your own conclusions...

Even Tiffany's mom commented on FSU (page #1 post #29 on From Russian with Love #20 to site my source) after the test skates that Elena didn't look in shape and wasn't extending her leg like she used to do. It's fine to have an opinion even when it's completely wrong about skaters😋 but I think there is a fine line of writing criticisms/opinions on a forum when you are a parent of a skater who competes against the skater your are criticizing IMO. I think I may just be getting my panties in a twist over that and such a trivial thing it is; I'm working on letting it go obviously.

On a more upbeat note, from Ruslan's interview I am very curious what his "dream" programs are. It's interesting that he said he is depicting the different men in Frida's life.
 
Listened to TSL a couple of weeks ago hoping that Dave Lease might have become more professional. IMO he has not and I turned it off rather quickly, vowing not to listen ever again. Though, I did hear Dave make an odd comment about C/B. He said something to the effect that Igor choreographed edges into the program for Madison and Evan then pulls her around on the edge. It struck me as an inane and mean comment. If this is what he says about teams whose bandwagon he's on, I shudder to think of what he has to say about those whose bandwagon he is off. He's like the National Inquirer of figure skating--wonderfully entertaining for some and horribly annoying for others. Personally, I can't stand the National Inquirer. Sorry to go off topic but who cares what TSL says about I/Z or anyone else
 
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Listened to TSL a couple of weeks ago hoping that Dave Lease might have become more professional. IMO he has not and I turned it off rather quickly, vowing not to listen ever again. Though, I did hear Dave make an odd comment about C/B. He said something to the effect that Igor choreographed edges into the program for Madison and Evan then pulls her around on the edge. It struck me as an inane and mean comment. If this is what he says about teams whose bandwagon he's on, I shudder to think of what he has to say about those whose bandwagon he is off. He's like the National Inquirer of figure skating--wonderfully entertaining for some and horribly annoying for others. Personally, I can't stand the National Inquirer. Sorry to go off topic but who cares what TSL says about I/Z or anyone else

I love C/B but that comment is really funny :rofl:
 
It's fine to have an opinion even when it's completely wrong about skaters😋 but I think there is a fine line of writing criticisms/opinions on a forum when you are a parent of a skater who competes against the skater your are criticizing IMO. I think I may just be getting my panties in a twist over that and such a trivial thing it is; I'm working on letting it go obviously.

I see the ink is barely dry on the release papers, but the backlash has already begun. :shocked:
 
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I saw the Saransk free skate yesterday and loved it! The speed, the choreography, their expressiveness, and absolutely magical lifts – so swift and visually effortless, as if they were floating in zero gravity! And it’s a unique kind of program, which is rare in figure skating. But then again, these are skaters who’ve managed to make a unique program to Carmen – the most commonly used music in figure skating, and in their first season together to boot!

And the SD waltz is something I could watch forever. For all their non-traditional choice of music, the performance itself looks like a waltz etalon to me – romantic, light-footed, joyful – exactly what every waltz should aspire to be. The amazing thing for me is that I’ve seen literally countless romantic programs, including from some of the best skaters ever, and yet I was completely mesmerized by IZ’s waltz – I felt like I’d never seen anything like it.

So I’m very happy for them that they’ve received high scores for both their skates. As far as my impressions go, they’ve deserved every hundredth of it!

I seldom watch award ceremonies, but I did watch this one – I couldn’t miss hearing the national anthem played in the honor of this team for the first time and seeing them glow. And she looked breathtakingly beautiful. I’m glad that they changed to their SD outfits too. I wonder, though, what music was played, as the medalists were being introduced and took their places on the podium? To me it sounded like Star Wars music, but I’m sure it wasn’t that :D.

I loved both their interviews as much as everyone, of course, probably for the same reasons. Elena’s passion for her work, reasons for her fascination with Frida, her take on her life, past and present, and the way she can stand her ground with journalists, while remaining completely charming. As I was reading this I thought that Frida may have been an unusual person, but I happen to find Elena herself even more fascinating, and if somebody some day makes a true film about her, it’ll be one of the most memorable films ever – except that I can’t imagine anyone else portraying her convincingly, even apart from the skating. So I’ll have to live with the images from this interview in my head.

Ruslan’s interviews were equally interesting. I had no idea he was portraying anyone other than Diego in the FD, and I wonder how he manages to impersonate so many different characters in the span of a few minutes. I also wish he’d share more about what Najarro had told them about this program that he just hinted at in this interview. I live for the day when IZ are interviewed by somebody who can match their intellect and maturity. Like Elena, Ruslan also has no problem getting his point across effectively, but politely. And his inner strength is so obvious in these interviews, from his conviction that it’s up to him, as a man, to seek compromise, to how he brings up his mistake in an interview on his own initiative without a second thought, just thinking out loud, even to his ready admission that he watches other skaters’ programs at competitions, if he has a chance (it’s ridiculous, but how many skaters admit that?), to his equal readiness to accept his partner’s creative ideas and a starring role, if it leads to memorable programs. (It must be the first fs program I’ve ever seen in which a man portrays a woman’s muse/s.) Also loved his description of what goes through his head when he wants to “explode with pleasure” while he has to stay completely focused on every detail of their performance to get top levels for every element.

And, of course, everything they’ve said about each other reveals that theirs is a real partnership in the truest sense of the word, as each of them complements, and supports, and fully appreciates what the other brings to their partnership. Together with their coaches and Najarro they do indeed make what sounds like a perfect team. And I get the impression that, for all of them, instead of thinking how great they themselves are, they think, “How lucky I am to be working with these people!”

Interesting bits from the other articles I’ve seen:

A article from the Rus Fed press secretary about the first day of competition in Saransk reveals a brief summary of the IZ’s short dance: “Two young people after work come to a party. Part of the time they spend with their parents and guests, and the rest of the evening with their friends. That’s why classical waltz gives way to rock. That’s why they have traditional costumes, although there’s the emblem of “Queen” on the lady’s dress.

http://fsrussia.ru/intervyu/1309-mordovskij-ornament-den-pervyj.html

Ludmila Sosnitskaya, who with her partner Pavel Golovishnikov also competed in Saransk, said in part in an interview: “Today before the skate Lena Ilinykh, with whom we train in the same group, came up to us and wished us luck. Lena and Ruslan in general greatly support us, while we wish to get a bit closer to their level.”

http://www.team-russia2014.ru/article/22636.html

And from Kustarova’s brief interview: “If one compares the two beginnings of the season, this and the previous one… they are completely different. Now all our team is one whole unit. And with Ruslan, we’re all like behind a stone wall, despite his youth. In this season we already plan to burst into the ID world elite.” (I must say I wouldn’t have been the least bit surprised if Elena Ilinykh had said that she feels with her partner like behind a stone wall, but I think it’s very rare for a coach to say that about a skater.)

http://tass.ru/sport/2356284

I also want to thank Alba and Chameleon for explaining about IZ’s twizzles and Alithia for lots of great pics from Saransk on Twizzle on Ice – and to apologize for such a long post.
 
I see the ink is barely dry on the release papers, but the backlash has already begun on Tiffany's mum. :shocked:

There are lots of people who post on here or on FSU who are friends or family of other elite skaters (off the top of my head, family of Daniel Eaton, Cannuscio/McManus, Lynn & Logan, Amanda Evora, the Bucklands...) who manage to participate in the board without making derogatory remarks about other skaters or doing the whole "I'm just so worried she looks so unhappy/out of shape etc etc" thing that is transparently designed not as a real expression of concern but instead to make the skater that's ahead of "their" skater look bad.

None of us are saying that I/Z are above criticism, but there's a difference between valid & useful comments on their weaknesses & plain trash talking.

Ruslan’s interviews were equally interesting. I had no idea he was portraying anyone other than Diego in the FD, and I wonder how he manages to impersonate so many different characters in the span of a few minutes. I also wish he’d share more about what Najarro had told them about this program that he just hinted at in this interview. I live for the day when IZ are interviewed by somebody who can match their intellect and maturity. Like Elena, Ruslan also has no problem getting his point across effectively, but politely. And his inner strength is so obvious in these interviews, from his conviction that it’s up to him, as a man, to seek compromise, to how he brings up his mistake in an interview on his own initiative without a second thought, just thinking out loud, even to his ready admission that he watches other skaters’ programs at competitions, if he has a chance (it’s ridiculous, but how many skaters admit that?), to his equal readiness to accept his partner’s creative ideas and a starring role, if it leads to memorable programs. (It must be the first fs program I’ve ever seen in which a man portrays a woman’s muse/s.)

I love the very rare occasions that we get to hear from Ruslan - he might be more quiet than Elena, but he obviously thinks very deeply about their partnership & everything that they do together. And you're right about the man-as-muse, I don't think we've seen anyone doing that before! Even D/S's Frida wasn't about that relationship.

Sorry I didn't get the chance to translate in full yesterday, but I think most things have been covered already?
 
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None of us are saying that I/Z are above criticism, but there's a difference between valid & useful comments on their weaknesses & plain trash talking.

True, but equally everyone is allowed one mistake, if this was the only time, then you should let it go.
If however, more comments appear, then I agree you should go ahead and criticize all you want!

If I could give a message to all the parents, I'd say stay out of the forums, they are not a place for you to be it is not fair on us the fans.
Fans should be able to give their honest opinions without having to worry about any parents who may or may not read our comments.
 
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http://fsrussia.ru/intervyu/1309-mordovskij-ornament-den-pervyj.html

Ludmila Sosnitskaya, who with her partner Pavel Golovishnikov also competed in Saransk, said in part in an interview: “Today before the skate Lena Ilinykh, with whom we train in the same group, came up to us and wished us luck. Lena and Ruslan in general greatly support us, while we wish to get a bit closer to their level.”

This does not surprise me at all, but is very sweet to hear!

About Tiffany's mom, I think we really and honestly should all cut her a break.
 
If I could give a message to all the parents, I'd say stay out of the forums, they are not a place for you to be it is not fair on us the fans.
Fans should be able to give their honest opinions without having to worry about any parents who may or may not read our comments.

I don't really agree with this, I think parents should feel free to come here like anyone else but they have to accept they might not like what they read. For instance, it's not analogous at all because they are still novice skaters, but the parent of a young ice dancer was here recently and her contributions (while limited solely to her daughter) were very nice and useful, providing insight on some things and she provided some videos fans of the kids would not have been able to see otherwise. She also told the fans she'd communicate to her daughter that we like her/are rooting for her and that it meant a lot to her daughter which IMO was very sweet and appropriate.

I do think parents do have to go the extra mile to try to be 'professional' though even if it's not always wholly fair, since they will have opinions like all of us but it won't always be appropriate for them to share them, and if they do, as here with Tiffany's mom, they will risk severe censure which may or may not be wholly deserved.
 
TBH, we shouldn't be concerned out her comments. In fact I would take them a s compliment. We all know it takes time for skaters to come up to peak form. They had the most impactful dances at test skates IMHO. So if everyone else was in shape so to speak and they weren't good for them. :biggrin: Further if I/Z could have performed so admirably at test skates, I look forward to be blown away on the GP.

If she's a smart woman she'll be tactful. If not it's up to her to deal with the repercussions. In time she'll come to understand the peculiarities of her position on this board.
 
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I see the ink is barely dry on the release papers, but the backlash has already begun. :shocked:

I'm so sorry if I came across as anti Z/G, because that's not how I feel. My post was more about about a parent on a forum writing criticism about an opposing player/skater where people like me (and possibly even media outlets) might misinterpret his/her comments and feel it's not proper and maybe even a little tacky. One of the parents uses the forums to promote her daughter and partner like posting links to videos of them and their website which I think is great and smart. Of the course even parents are entitled to their opinions, but they have to remember if it's on the Internet it's for everyone to see as opposed to talking with a friend in person. Again I apologize if my post was rude toward Z/G I do honestly wish them the best. As far as her mom, I'm wasn't trying to put her down, I was just feeling it wasn't a wise move and just expressing what I would do if a I was a skater's mom.
 
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I'm so sorry if I came across as anti Z/G, because that's not how I feel. My post was more about about a parent on a forum writing criticism about an opposing player/skater where people like me (and possibly even media outlets) might misinterpret his/her comments and feel it's not proper and maybe even a little tacky. One of the parents uses the forums to promote her daughter and partner like posting links to videos of them and their website which I think is great and smart. Of the course even parents are entitled to their opinions, but they have to remember if it's on the Internet it's for everyone to see as opposed to talking with a friend in person. Again I apologize if my post was rude toward Z/G I do honestly wish them the best. As far as her mom, I'm wasn't trying to put her down, I was just feeling it wasn't a wise move and just expressing what I would do if a I was a skater's mom.

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About Tiffany's mom, I think we really and honestly should all cut her a break.

Well said I think the poor woman has been through enough.
Let's not make her suffer more for a comment which came at a time when she probably thought her daughter would never be released and would never be competing against Elena again anyway.
 
It's not a one off, she's been doing it ever since Worlds, but whatever.

This is getting really petty, give the poor woman a break, I can only see one other comment about Elena which was juste expressing a preference for B/S, having quickly scanned all her posts on FSU.

So let's just drop the subject and get back to Elena and Ruslan....
 
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