Elena Ilinykh & Ruslan Zhiganshin

[bramweld]

They can change coaches or experiment with their programs but as long as they keep making mistakes nothing will change. the mistakes last year at euros and worlds are somewhat forgivable but this year it actually got worse. Maybe work with psychologist? They also still skate very individually. Im not sure how to actually solve this. Usually its either you have connection or not.

Oh pooh, stop being such a killjoy. I know they know they have to stop making mistakes and I think they already have a psychologist. Give it a rest. But errmm, thank you for the suggestion. :hap57:

Lack of connection between these two, you must have done lost your mind. Come on now, come on!!!!!:disagree::noshake:

 

[Marta25]

They can change coaches or experiment with their programs but as long as they keep making mistakes nothing will change. the mistakes last year at euros and worlds are somewhat forgivable but this year it actually got worse. Maybe work with psychologist? They also still skate very individually. Im not sure how to actually solve this. Usually its either you have connection or not.

No, Ruslena have great chemistry, but their coaching team has done so many strategic mistakes this season for both their top 2 teams. I agree that they have to stop doing these silly mistakes, though. This season is a step back and now they have to work twice as much to not only gain the international judges`trust back, but also to get back into the Russian Fed`s good graces.

 

[Abraxis12345]

And who's job is that, to prepare skaters physically and mentally?

There's only so much a coach can do. After all, Frank Carroll, who nobody will accuse of having poorly prepared skaters, still can't make Gold consistent.

 

[MK's Winter]

They can change coaches or experiment with their programs but as long as they keep making mistakes nothing will change. the mistakes last year at euros and worlds are somewhat forgivable but this year it actually got worse. Maybe work with psychologist? They also still skate very individually. Im not sure how to actually solve this. Usually its either you have connection or not. I do think their season is over but this will only give them more time to create a program for next season and work on their weaknesses. Im not really solve with Kustarova's coaching so a change of coach is fine with me. Would it be crazy if they go to Zueva too??lol

Did you watch the same free skate I did? Zueva would ruin them.

 

[bramweld]

Did you watch the same free skate I did? Zueva would ruin them.

Haha, you tell em. I think I think I love you. Absolute craziness..:eekn:

 

[Marta25]

Did you watch the same free skate I did? Zueva would ruin them.

She would probably give them the Davis/White treatment. Fast generic skating to epic music with flying hair and all.

 

[whatif]

Lack of connection between these two, you must have done lost your mind. Come on now, come on!!!!!:disagree::noshake:

They may have connection, but the difference in skating skills and overall level of skating between two is too evident and I doubt he can catch up anytime soon. I hope they can prove me wrong though.

And before I/Z fans attack me, I see the same problem with Sin/Kats. But to a lesser degree than here.

 

[Alba]

No, Ruslena have great chemistry, but their coaching team has done so many strategic mistakes this season for both their top 2 teams. I agree that they have to stop doing these silly mistakes, though. This season is a step back and now they have to work twice as much to not only gain the international judges`trust back, but also to get back into the Russian Fed`s good graces.

Again, I raise my question here. Who's job is that? Mistakes don't disappear just like that. They also do agree that mitakes are not allowed but it's a showcase of many of the things not working with this coaching team. Be that good preparation, mental or physical, lack of trust, pressure, discipline whatever that might be.

 

[Marta25]

Again, I raise my question here. Who's job is that? Mistakes don't disappear just like that. They also do agree that mitakes are not allowed but it's a showcase of many of the things not working with this coaching team. Be that good preparation, mental or physical, lack of trust, pressure, discipline whatever that might be.

I think most in here agree that they should leave, but I don`t expect it to happen, tbh. I rather see Y/M to leave than I/Z.

 

[MK's Winter]

They may have connection, but the difference in skating skills and overall level of skating between two is too evident and I doubt he can catch up anytime soon. I hope they can prove me wrong though. And before I/Z fans attack me, I see the same problem with Sin/Kats. But to a lesser degree than here.

Ok. We watched a totally different event and you make the S/K comparison... Ruslan has upper body control, extension, and line. He doesn't chase Elena down the rink. He can hold a deep inside/outside without holding Elena's hand. Just saying. That was more than evident today.

 

[Idontsk8]

Maybe they wanted to emphasize the skate not the clothes. And maybe they spent all their money on coaches and choreographers so they can have the most difficult and different programs so that they can receive mediocre scores even when making an outstanding performance.

Elena said in the interview that she is relieved that this is the last FD for 2015. I am not sure whether they realized this, but this is the last Frida at all. I am not happy that they did not managed to show their best of both dances in one competition and they did not dressed like rock stars and more colourful clothes for Frida. I was imagining every their performance to see a different Frida at least this is what this dance deserve. But no. Every outing was nerve game and pressure.

I agree. I wanted to post here before but forgot that I thought that just having Elena wear a white dress like the GPF last year one and Ruslan a proper suit would totally change the SD look. When I heard the concept was "school dance" I thought they're a bit old for that and that "bride and groom flash mob" would work better. For Frida I am not totally against the black outfits but it makes the dance more abstract. Both dresses don't flatter her at all. I am also not long limbed like her and never wear anything that covers my knees when I wear dresses. Either mid-thigh length or above the knee, very fitted on the waist and a different top color, like the Carmen dress that looked stunning on her. Anyway I hope they learn from the mistakes from this season fast. I think the problem was to over-complicate everything. Anyway watched the dance now (still didn't have time to see the other 3 top couples) and it was the best outing for me, the step sequences look much better

 

[Alba]

Ok. We watched a totally different event and you make the S/K comparison... Ruslan has upper body control, extension, and line. He doesn't chase Elena down the rink. He can hold a deep inside/outside without holding Elena's hand. Just saying. That was more than evident today.

Are you really wasting your time explaining what SS are?

 

[MK's Winter]

Are you really wasting your time explaining what SS are?

I'm passionate and I feel people need to be educated.

 

[Alba]

I think most in here agree that they should leave, but I don`t expect it to happen, tbh. I rather see Y/M to leave than I/Z.

I don't want to be so hard on them and blame them for everything. They might be able to resolve all their issues, who knows. They have to though or IZ should leave.

 

[bramweld]

They may have connection, but the difference in skating skills and overall level of skating between two is too evident and I doubt he can catch up anytime soon. I hope they can prove me wrong though.

And before I/Z fans attack me, I see the same problem with Sin/Kats. But to a lesser degree than here.

Puhlease, these comments need to be parked in the SinKats fan thread. Move along, it's Christmas Day after all. I demand we have one day of peace. Thank you.:whack:

 

[Marta25]

I don't want to be so hard on them and blame them for everything. They might be able to resolve all their issues, who knows. They have to though or IZ should leave.

The problem is that this coaching team already had these issues with Bobrova/Soloviev. They improved in packaging and the posture of their female skaters seem to be improved compared to how it was with Bobrova and Monko. The question is, will this coaching team improve fast enough to bring Ruslena on that Olympic podium. Kustarova isn`t the first coach to create bad programs, even Zueva, as COP-knowledgable she is, created bad programs like that It`s Entertainment FD for Belbin/Agosto. But this is happening to Kustarova over and over again and that worries me.

 

[Barb]

my only problem with the SD was the WWRY part, now judges are sending message that Carmen is better, Swan lake is better, Straus is better. I think they should reuse and polish Frida and to work really hard in the next SD and of course to get better look.

 

[MK's Winter]

my only problem with the SD was the WWRY part, now judges are sending message that Carmen is better, Swan lake is better, Straus is better. I think they should reuse and polish Frida and to work really hard in the next SD and of course to get better look.

I would be ok with that. Give it a fresh look though. What is the pattern for next year?

 

[Marta25]

I would be ok with that. Give it a fresh look though. What is the pattern for next year?

It`s the Blues. They can mix it with a Swing or Hip Hop and I`m already praying that they won`t use Hip Hop. :hpull:

 

[MK's Winter]

It`s the Blues. They can mix it with a Swing or Hip Hop and I`m already praying that they won`t use Hip Hop. :hpull:

They need to do Blues and swing!