Elena Ilinykh & Ruslan Zhiganshin

[VIETgrlTerifa]

Here is the link.

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Wow, he had some strong words about the lack of creativity/artistry of the six GPF qualifiers. All they have to do in response is show a video of any of his and Linichuck's amateur FDs and say "right back at ya."

 

[Alba]

Wow, he had some strong words about the lack of creativity/artistry of the six GPF qualifiers. All they have to do in response is show a video of any of his and Linichuck's amateur FDs and say "right back at ya."

TBH though he has a point. Except for the Shibs who stood out for me the rest was meh...

 

[bramweld]

TBH though he has a point. Except for the Shibs who stood out for me the rest was meh...

The sad thing though these sad retreads of programs with the exception of the Shibs are what the judges have been giving the high scores to. When they had the chance to go with novel skates both this season and others past, they tend to go with safe. That's the reason we have soo many white bread programs these days. Puhlease, could P/C surprise us in a good way?

 

[MK's Winter]

The sad thing though these sad retreads of programs with the exception of the Shibs are what the judges have been giving the high scores to. When they had the chance to go with novel skates both this season and others past, they tend to go with safe. That's the reason we have soo many white bread programs these days. Puhlease, could P/C surprise us in a good way?

This is why I love Ruslena. I feel as if everyone, except the Shibs, are trying P/C knock of programs. I love originality and authenticity<3

 

[uhh]

I don't even find what the Shibs are doing that interesting - it's just that anything would be a step up from their programs of the last two seasons. And seeing them live against the other top teams really highlighted again to me how they don't have power in their skating or the ability to fill the ice with their presence in a way that even a team like C/L does. Junior dance in Barcelona was even more depressing, with mis-matched partnerships, stagnating teams and poor technique all over the place.

Can't wait to see I/Z back on the ice! A week to go to Nationals.

 

[bramweld]

I don't even find what the Shibs are doing that interesting - it's just that anything would be a step up from their programs of the last two seasons. And seeing them live against the other top teams really highlighted again to me how they don't have power in their skating or the ability to fill the ice with their presence in a way that even a team like C/L does. Junior dance in Barcelona was even more depressing, with mis-matched partnerships, stagnating teams and poor technique all over the place.

Can't wait to see I/Z back on the ice! A week to go to Nationals.

You were there? How lucky. Let's hope for the best.

 

[Marta25]

I also was in Barcelona and I think a lot of the impact of Shibs`FD is due to the music. I was very disappointed in C/B and H/D, the Rach FD is not working and H/D`s programs are both so boring, especially their FD. I liked the Shibs and W/P the most, but the whole time I was thinking "I wish Ruslena were here". I only mentioned in a previous post how surprised I was to see that B/S`s scores were way behind W/P and C/B.

Regarding the Russian teams, I have to say that I was surprised by Karponosov`s words. Most people on forums think that B/S`s spot on the World team is pretty secure with either S/K and I/Z joining them, but he sounds as if he would prefer a S/K and I/Z team. I`m really looking forward to see I/Z again and to see the improvements they made to both programs since COR.

 

[MK's Winter]

https://instagram.com/p/_WxlvZKBpd/

Wednesday Elena vibes

 

[MK's Winter]

I also was in Barcelona and I think a lot of the impact of Shibs`FD is due to the music. I was very disappointed in C/B and H/D, the Rach FD is not working and H/D`s programs are both so boring, especially their FD. I liked the Shibs and W/P the most, but the whole time I was thinking "I wish Ruslena were here". I only mentioned in a previous post how surprised I was to see that B/S`s scores were way behind W/P and C/B. Regarding the Russian teams, I have to say that I was surprised by Karponosov`s words. Most people on forums think that B/S`s spot on the World team is pretty secure with either S/K and I/Z joining them, but he sounds as if he would prefer a S/K and I/Z team. I`m really looking forward to see I/Z again and to see the improvements they made to both programs since COR.

I think he is going to push an I/Z and S/K rivalry in hopes that it will elevate Russian dance. I posted a long thought on the previous page.

 

[Marta25]

I think he is going to push an I/Z and S/K rivalry in hopes that it will elevate Russian dance. I posted a long thought on the previous page.

Hmm, this could be true. Both teams are young enough to go until 2022, they are all Olympians with each team having one Olympic medalists and the media loves the "ex-partners skating against each other" storyline.

 

[MK's Winter]

Hmm, this could be true. Both teams are young enough to go until 2022, they are all Olympians with each team having one Olympic medalists and the media loves the "ex-partners skating against each other" storyline.

That's what I think about his comments. He is trying to bring back a 90's era of ice dance. With domestic rivals pushing Russian dance and swinging the pendulum back in that direction.

 

[Alba]

I don't even find what the Shibs are doing that interesting - it's just that anything would be a step up from their programs of the last two seasons. And seeing them live against the other top teams really highlighted again to me how they don't have power in their skating or the ability to fill the ice with their presence in a way that even a team like C/L does.

I understand what you mean and that's the only reason why I'm not like a super crazy fan of Shibs but their programs this season are far better than any of the couples at the GPF (I actually love their SD). C&L might have the presence but their "fun" and always "happy" programs&attitude have become a sort of "when happiness becomes a depression" , for me. hwell:

He is trying to bring back a 90's era of ice dance. With domestic rivals pushing Russian dance and swinging the pendulum back in that direction.

It's outdated and it's not backed with the skating. Not to mention that it makes the skaters look sooooooo cheap.

 

[MK's Winter]

I understand what you mean and that's the main reason why I'm not like a crazy fan of Shibs but heir programs this season are far better than any of the couples at the GPF. C&L might have the presence but their "fun" and always "happy" programs&attitude have become: "when happiness becomes a depression" for me. hwell: It's outdated and it's not backed with the skating. Not to mention that makes the skaters looks sooooooo cheap.

Agreed but I think they are going to give that shot.

 

[Meoima]

I feel so worried for Russian National.

 

[Marta25]

I feel so worried for Russian National.

The good thing is that qualifying for Euros is completely in Ruslena's hands. They don't depend on others making mistakes the way SB and MK do. They had one month of working on things in peace, so I hope they use the positive feelings from their FD at COR and nail both of their programs at Nats.

 

[Mattieu]

I feel so worried for Russian National.

Me too, as they will be really stressed after CoR and stress can lead to mistakes
Sadly, I am expecting mistakes from all the top 3, B/S, S/K & I/Z, as they will have the most pressure.

So we could end up with S/B making the Euros team if one of them makes as big a mistake as I/Z made in CoR
S/B make less errors as they skate slow and don't take risks, so are more likely to skate clean than the top 3 teams.

I have sadly written off M/K, as the judges really don't seem to like them and it is possible that their stable mates, Z/G will overtake them very soon as they seem to have the character M/K are lacking, and given that they missed the World's TES by a hair's breadth on their first international outing, they are not too shabby technically either.
N/M whilst I like their personalities very much, I have never liked their skating, too rough around the edges for my liking.

 

[alithia]

I don't worry at all. And I'm at this point where the only thing that keeps me interested in ice dancing, and russian dancing as well is indeed I/Z.

 

[MK's Winter]

I don't worry at all. And I'm at this point where the only thing that keeps me interested in ice dancing, and russian dancing as well is indeed I/Z.

I agree. I am not worried for them either. They have had time to work, they don't have major travel time. I think they are up to this. Ruslena will be good.

 

[tulosai]

I'm not worried about Nationals at all, I view it as pretty certain that Ruslena will make the Euros team. That is the real competition to worry about IMO.

 

[tvuckic16]

I guess define worried... and I can't even say worried is the right sentiment...no

Am I worried that IZ will make the Euros team, not at all... Am I worried that IZ will make the Worlds team, not really... Am I 'worried' where IZ are on the World stage, maybe...

I don't think it is unreasonable, I mean, isn't the goal of all of these teams the World stage? Nationals... bah... it is just something you must do well to get to major international competitions...