Elizaveta Tuktamysheva

[Plumededragon]

She didn't say she will jump 3A at Worlds this year anyway.
Maybe it will happen, but she still isn't sure.

Here is some words about it: http://rsport.ru/figure_skating/20150317/815605895.html
In short, she is a bit worried and she isn't sure is she ready for it. Liza says the work on 3A is for the future, but not just for a Worlds.

If she doesn't feel ready yet for it, then yes it's better she does not try it. She has what it takes to become the new World Champion (and I really hope she will win), and she can't be allowed any mistake. Better stay safe and train for a try at 3A next season, than trying it at the most important competition of the year.:hopelessness:

 

[YesWay]

If she doesn't feel ready yet for it, then yes it's better she does not try it. She has what it takes to become the new World Champion (and I really hope she will win), and she can't be allowed any mistake. Better stay safe and train for a try at 3A next season, than trying it at the most important competition of the year.:hopelessness:

It could be a close thing between her and Radionova, and even one or two others if they skate lights-out.

A successful 3A in the SP could seal it for Liza. So perhaps it is worth the risk.
"No guts, no glory!"
"She who dares, WINS!" ;-D

I bet she does a few 3A's in practice anyway, if only to rattle/pressure the other skaters :-D

 

[Plumededragon]

It could be a close thing between her and Radionova, and even one or two others if they skate lights-out.

A successful 3A in the SP could seal it for Liza. So perhaps it is worth the risk.
"No guts, no glory!"
"She who dares, WINS!" ;-D

I bet she does a few 3A's in practice anyway, if only to rattle/pressure the other skaters :-D

For sure, the fight for the podium will be intense. And a successful 3A would definitely give her an advantage, considering the beauty of her program without this jump already. We'll have to wait and see, but with all the info gathered so far, she's likely not going to try it at the World, but will in the next season. :yes:

Oh, we have seen it, she does practice it, getting it back in shape.^^ But if she's not sure of herself yet, it may be better until she's more confident and ready to go for it in competitions, and not just in practice.^^
But whatever she decides to do, what's important is that she does not regret it afterwards, whenever it does work or not.

 

[Tutto]

She didn't say she will jump 3A at Worlds this year anyway.
Maybe it will happen, but she still isn't sure.

Here is some words about it: http://rsport.ru/figure_skating/20150317/815605895.html
In short, she is a bit worried and she isn't sure is she ready for it. Liza says the work on 3A is for the future, but not just for a Worlds.

I feel there is some confusion as to what was said in the the above interview, I am going to translate it in full a bit later but Lisa says quite definitely she is going to do a 3A at Worlds though she is not sure she is fully ready for that.

 

[Tutto]

As promised here is my translation,apparently Liza was interviewed over the phone, which may explain why the article was rather badly constructed and worded, I had to work on some phrases hard to make sense of it.

''Elizaveta Tuktamysheva admitted that she feels nervous in anticipation of doing triple axel at the Worlds, but she realises that the foundation for achieving consistent 3A must be laid now. The skater has already tried to execute this jump twice in competition, and intends to include it also in Shanghai.
‘The 3A is a new element, it can’t be mastered at once. The work on it has its highs and lows. It is also more difficult with other jumps in the program. When you go for 3A you must be ready for a total disruption and then finding energy for the rest of the program.
Of course, there is a lot of anxiety but I see 3A as a work on a long- term goal rather than just as regards to this competition (Worlds). Figure skating will continue to up technical content, and 3A will be a must in the future. And my opinion is that I need to work on it now in order to achieve consistency’
Liza had some difficulty answering a question whether she is mentally prepared to risk losing a World medal because of 3A, as she is one of the favourites to win. ‘I don’t know, we’ll see if I am ready. In practice I am able to overcome a failed jump. But as we know, it is totally different in competition. Even when an athlete is 100% ready, it is impossible to expect perfection. Nobody guaranteed from mistakes. ‘

 

[Tutto]

Another interview with Lisa:

http://www.sports.ru/others/figure-skating/1028059400.html

'I hope I managed to recharge my batteries after the Euros. Actually when I knew that I was on the Euro team I did prepare myself for a long intense season so I mentally was ready and maybe that’s why I don’t feel particularly tired. My body seems to understand that there is no alternative but to keep on going.
The preparation on the whole goes according to the plan - with just one week to go we only work on polishing the programs and on consistency. I do not want to think of the most important start of the season too much as not to disturb my focus. I want to feel calm going into competition and do my best.

 

[LRK]

Thanks a lot, Melissa!

I'm so happy, excited - and scared witless for her going into Worlds! But regardless of what happens there - she has had such a stellar season this year, and come such a long way... I'm so proud of her! As are we all, I'm sure.

 

[Sugarpova]

nice interview
I like that her priority is to slay calm. Id suggest her to go the easy route but that just me/


also this forum can sure give me some food for thought (& head scratching) btw
Several people in the 3 A thread claiming Liza lacks musiciality & artistism is big news to me.
Like in what world????

 

[Tutto]

I sense from the interviews that Lisa's main concern is not so much about 3A itself but how not let the rest of the program fall apart if the axel does go wrong.

Well, I was hoping for different strategy from Lisa & Mishin but now when it is inevitable it's time to think of our strategy how to survive the SP! I am not sure I'll have a stomach to watch it live!!

 

[Plumededragon]

Ok, so Liza will try for the 3A in Shandgai? Well, I do agree with the fact that you have to start at some point, I was just not thinking that WC would be the first international competition in which she'd go for it. We just have to wait and see.
The training sessions prior to the championship days will give us more information next. If she does train the 3A there, then we'll know what to expect.

Look like it's gonna be tough... I want both Liza and Yuzuru to win, and even if their situations are very different, both have a same effet: making us very nervous for them considering their challenges, but ready to cheer for them no matter what, lol!

 

[YesWay]

Several people in the 3 A thread claiming Liza lacks musiciality & artistism is big news to me.
Like in what world????

LOL. Suggest you have a laugh at such comments, then move on :-D

Do not feed the trolls...

 

[Sandpiper]

Well, I was hoping for different strategy from Lisa & Mishin but now when it is inevitable it's time to think of our strategy how to survive the SP! I am not sure I'll have a stomach to watch it live!!

Maybe it's just me, but this makes me want to watch live even more. The more nervous I am for my favourites, the more I feel obligated to watch live. Because at least then I'd know exactly what went down, and understand the scores that come up. Whereas if I look up the results first, and they're less than ideal, that single moment of devastation/non-understanding feels worse than the full heart-pounding 2-4 minutes of the program.

Thank you for the translation. I hope Mishin/Liza herself won't really push 3A if it isn't ready. But maybe, by Worlds, they'll figure out a way to cope with the rest of the program no matter what happens on the axel.

 

[sabinfire]

Maybe it's just me, but this makes me want to watch live even more. The more nervous I am for my favourites, the more I feel obligated to watch live.

Exactly. We all know what Liza is capable of after countless competitions this season. Becoming a World Champion is one thing. Joining a small elite group of ladies skaters by landing a 3A on the largest world stage (outside of the Olympics) AND becoming World Champion? Well... that would be a whole new level.

The gutsiest part of this is she doesn't even need the 3A to win. This is unlike the men, rushing to add quads just to try being competitive in the field where all the top men are landing quad(s).

Or it could still just all be a Mishin head-game, boosted by the fact that Liza recently landed a 3A in competition... which is still a strong suspicion of mine.

 

[plushyfan]

As promised here is my translation,apparently Liza was interviewed over the phone, which may explain why the article was rather badly constructed and worded, I had to work on some phrases hard to make sense of it.

''Elizaveta Tuktamysheva admitted that she feels nervous in anticipation of doing triple axel at the Worlds, but she realises that the foundation for achieving consistent 3A must be laid now. The skater has already tried to execute this jump twice in competition, and intends to include it also in Shanghai.
‘The 3A is a new element, it can’t be mastered at once. The work on it has its highs and lows. It is also more difficult with other jumps in the program. When you go for 3A you must be ready for a total disruption and then finding energy for the rest of the program.
Of course, there is a lot of anxiety but I see 3A as a work on a long- term goal rather than just as regards to this competition (Worlds). Figure skating will continue to up technical content, and 3A will be a must in the future. And my opinion is that I need to work on it now in order to achieve consistency’
Liza had some difficulty answering a question whether she is mentally prepared to risk losing a World medal because of 3A, as she is one of the favourites to win. ‘I don’t know, we’ll see if I am ready. In practice I am able to overcome a failed jump. But as we know, it is totally different in competition. Even when an athlete is 100% ready, it is impossible to expect perfection. Nobody guaranteed from mistakes. ‘

Another interview with Lisa:

http://www.sports.ru/others/figure-skating/1028059400.html

thank you Melissa! I'm so excited! Go, Liza!

 

[Sugarpova]

LOL. Suggest you have a laugh at such comments, then move on :-D

Do not feed the trolls...

haha I probs will do so
because no matter what I'll keep my own opinion at the end
no really seeing something like 'all Mishin students lack it' is soo weird Zhenia too? He's one of the best performers!

as for watching live I dont know/
I often have the ability to jinx my fav sportsmen if I watch live so for Liza's sake I'll wait til the replays

haha this is hilarious
Liza as an example for younger generations

 

[plushyfan]

no really seeing something like 'all Mishin students lack it' is soo weird Zhenia too? He's one of the best performers!

Yes, some North-Am posters used to say Plushy isn't artistry.. They are blind or forgot about Plushy cca 70 6.0s for his presentation since 1999. And they think the Judges were stupid or incompetent when they thought Plushy has innate artistry..And Liza is the next..:shocked: But you know this is figure skating..those are Figure skating fans...

 

[LRK]

I think that some people have a very - very - narrow defnition of what constitutes "Art"... and they think that they, and they only, are the arbiters of what that is.

Basically, I've found, it should not be "entertaining" or at least not something so frivolous as "fun" (shudders at the notion). If it's any consolation, skaters who are otherwise considered "Artists" can be slapped with the same criticism if they do something too.... "fun" (shudders again, looks for smelling salts.) See for example Mao's Gershwin program (music only fit for a 12 year-old according to one poster, for example), or Daisuke and his rockabilly program... And Jason Brown is being tarred with the same brush - apparently being a "crowd pleaser" is a bad thing.

The mind boggles.... But really, the only thing is to leave those people to their own devices (shrug).

 

[StitchMonkey]

LRK

I think you hit the nail on the head. People often seem to confuse "art" with "art that i think is good and actually like" I can respect things that I don't really enjoy. I don't enjoy overly serious programs, I don't want to see programs that are intended to remind me there is ugliness in the world, but i can still respect them and see the artistic value in it. I see art in the movement of the human form in ice, so it is not hard for me to see art in a lot of skaters, just different kinds of art.

I would never want to live in a world that was not filled with art I hate. I don't want only my aesthetic choices to exist, that is dreary and monotonous. I want there to be art that ranges from my taste to stuff I want to avoid. I still want it to exist even if i don't enjoy it.

 

[LRK]

LRK

I think you hit the nail on the head. People often seem to confuse "art" with "art that i think is good and actually like" I can respect things that I don't really enjoy. I don't enjoy overly serious programs, I don't want to see programs that are intended to remind me there is ugliness in the world, but i can still respect them and see the artistic value in it. I see art in the movement of the human form in ice, so it is not hard for me to see art in a lot of skaters, just different kinds of art.

I would never want to live in a world that was not filled with art I hate. I don't want only my aesthetic choices to exist, that is dreary and monotonous. I want there to be art that ranges from my taste to stuff I want to avoid. I still want it to exist even if i don't enjoy it.

Absolutely agree! I like there to be different styles of skaters/skating... includng the ones I don't like. If everyone skated the same - no matter how "elevated" the style - how boring would that be?

 

[solani]

Art has to affect people again and again, not just once and art isn't allowed to be boring. For me it's as simple as that, wether I like it or not.
No one could consider Elizaveta to be boring, she's got her own style like an artist. And a lot of "artistic" programs are boring, so they're not really artistic to me.