Elizaveta Tuktamysheva
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Do you know who she's replacing?
(Doesn't subtitude mean one only gets to go if the person who was supposed to can't/doesn't want to ?)
(Doesn't subtitude mean one only gets to go if the person who was supposed to can't/doesn't want to ?)
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Didn't Anna Pogorilaya withdraw?
I believe she did. If I am not mistaken she was listed as a competitor before and now Liza took her place. Why she had to withdraw I don't know.
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you are right..I think she is injured
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She interprets this music so well!
And Gracie Gold "only" third... I honestly thought she was most likely to win it, but surprise surprise!
Great for Liza!
192.65 is a good score and the LP wasn't perfect and it's not that important of an event so those points can still increase! Probably not enough to touch a Lipnitskaya or Sotnikova, but a great great score for her !
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Congratulations Liza 
So that's 2 gold medals for Mishin's students this weekend! Fantastic!
So that's 2 gold medals for Mishin's students this weekend! Fantastic!
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I just rewatched it - and could really savour it, free from anxiety. (Not that I thought there was any especial cause for concern - but one of the ways I know a skater is a Favourite - as opposed to a skater I "just" like or enjoy - is the ratio of nervousness I feel for them!) I just loved it - and one can hear that so did the crowd! And it's early in the season - how much better it can become as she really "grows into" it - I don't mean technically, but performance-wise. I think this program is really perfect for her - and I'm loving the music more and more too.
Yay, Liza! I'm so, so glad for her! I think that the most important thing wasn't her placement, but that she went out there and showed herself that she still can do it - that "she's still got it". Not, mind you, that I'm going to pretend I'm not pleased that she won - I'm thrilled to bits! Congratulations Liza!
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I'm so happy!!!! Good job, Liza!!!!!
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Many congrats to Liza!
Hoping it's going to be a phoenix-like season (=redemptional, restoring, great comeback, or whatever English words that would suit what I mean: to shut up everyone's mouth who tried to write her off in the last seasons
) for her! :yes:
A nice photo from Narumi's blog: http://ameblo.jp/narumi-takahashi/image-11931485342-13080952617.html
Is it just me? Narumi is so tiny and baby-faced that looks like Madison's daughter and/or Liza's niece.
But truth is she is the oldest among the three, I think. Grow up Naru, grow up! 
Hoping it's going to be a phoenix-like season (=redemptional, restoring, great comeback, or whatever English words that would suit what I mean: to shut up everyone's mouth who tried to write her off in the last seasons
) for her! :yes:A nice photo from Narumi's blog: http://ameblo.jp/narumi-takahashi/image-11931485342-13080952617.html
Is it just me? Narumi is so tiny and baby-faced that looks like Madison's daughter and/or Liza's niece.
But truth is she is the oldest among the three, I think. Grow up Naru, grow up! 
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Congrats to Liza!!
Congratulations Liza! I hope she stays healthy and continues to improve throughout the season.
Can I just say (I didn't say it in the Nebelhorn thread because it sounded a little creepy, and I've probably said it before besides)--I just love how both her SP and LP showcase her exquisite arm movements. They're different in style, but both are distinctly Liza, and both play to her strengths.
Can I just say (I didn't say it in the Nebelhorn thread because it sounded a little creepy, and I've probably said it before besides)--I just love how both her SP and LP showcase her exquisite arm movements. They're different in style, but both are distinctly Liza, and both play to her strengths.
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There was a good article published with Mishin yesterday - in Russian, of course. He talked about the state of training conditions in St. Petersburg (not ideal) and the ever-present weight issue. This is most of the Google translation (he also talked a little about Petrov at the beginning, just the usual stuff about needing a stable quad). I already had a lot of respect for Mishin, but I really appreciate his way of thinking on this particular topic.
The victory is certainly important, and I want to believe that it will serve as a springboard for further results. But this success is not a guarantee that the results are sure to follow. Much will depend on the mood of most athletes, from working professionals who surround Lisa, on the conditions of preparation.
To achieve high results in our time, it is necessary to work with the athlete not only coach and choreographer, and a team of specialists, which would come in and the doctor and the therapist, which in our group there. Looking for a good training conditions. Athlete of the caliber of Elizabeth Tuktamysheva should have enough ice, and not to train in the "mess" in the flea market together with beginning skaters.
I think that you should create favorable conditions for the preparation of those few top-level athletes who remain in St. Petersburg.
Returning to the beginning of our conversation, I would say that Sasha and Lisa - well done. But I would like to look at these two events in a slightly different plane. Liza and Sasha are young enough. Now they are in a stage of transition from young skaters on the adult level. No need to explain how difficult it is for a period of guys and how bad and responsible for coaches who work with them. Naturally, the girls and boys change that often adversely affect their skating. And then there are two ways. The first - to keep a tight rein on the athlete and make losing weight, as long as possible to maintain youthful appearance. Can be pharmacologically inhibit physical development of athletes. Turn a blind eye to a few minutes after the athlete got up from the table, podevalis eaten.
But there is a second option - when there is a period of growing up, to step aside to give the body to pass their way, form and start all over again. By the time it will take longer, riskier. You can expect a barrage of criticism, saying that where looking coach, skater stout, weight does not keep and do not look after themselves. All this is difficult to survive mentally, coupled with a decrease or lack of results, which naturally follow. After all, with weight changes, growth will break down and technique elements.
In fact, this is a very difficult problem.
Therefore, it seems to me that, given the recent incident with the skater Yulia Antipova, we must seriously puzzled and carefully consider the so-called "transition to adulthood." Draw for a comprehensive discussion of all relevant professionals, including physicians teams and individual groups to express their opinion. It can not be left just like that: talk and forget.
Even a single case - a testament to how this topic is important. Especially now when the Russian figure skating is a change of coaches, comes more and more young professionals who will sooner or later face the challenges of growing athletes. In our figure skating, now there are many talented girls, and we have now to deal with the question of how they grow up. It is from this decision in the first place, will depend on the fate of Olympic medals at the Olympics in Korea.
Coaches need to understand what to do and not to do in this situation, and what absolutely can not do. Coaches should be aware that by the Federation of Medical Service FMBA strictly controlled. And the parents of athletes have to listen and to follow the recommendations for physicians to avoid any "amateur", and then do not look for those responsible for the incident.
Over the years, through my coaching hands passed many students. This Lesch Urmanov, Lesha Yagudin, Oleg Tataurov Zhenya Plushenko, Artur Gachinski, Artur Dmitriev, Lisa Tuktamysheva ... Even before Jeanne Ilyin, Natasha Strelkova Tanya Oleneva, Anna Antonova, Marina Serova ... I can honestly say that I never rush things . Never acted on the principle: win now, and there is the deluge. I have never had a panic because there were a lot of athletes, and when one of them was a member of the awkward age, the other comes out of it.
I am always very calm attitude to criticism of some things. And as I talked about Lisa! "Come on it. This waste material. See how it looks. It will not work. " But the wisdom of the coach lies precisely in the fact that an experienced instructor should know the important things in advance. He must know the athlete, and always maintain the trust. After all, the word that coach - it's like a second father are not empty words. The coach must never betray, even if the students in relation to it is not always behaved with dignity.
The victory is certainly important, and I want to believe that it will serve as a springboard for further results. But this success is not a guarantee that the results are sure to follow. Much will depend on the mood of most athletes, from working professionals who surround Lisa, on the conditions of preparation.
To achieve high results in our time, it is necessary to work with the athlete not only coach and choreographer, and a team of specialists, which would come in and the doctor and the therapist, which in our group there. Looking for a good training conditions. Athlete of the caliber of Elizabeth Tuktamysheva should have enough ice, and not to train in the "mess" in the flea market together with beginning skaters.
I think that you should create favorable conditions for the preparation of those few top-level athletes who remain in St. Petersburg.
Returning to the beginning of our conversation, I would say that Sasha and Lisa - well done. But I would like to look at these two events in a slightly different plane. Liza and Sasha are young enough. Now they are in a stage of transition from young skaters on the adult level. No need to explain how difficult it is for a period of guys and how bad and responsible for coaches who work with them. Naturally, the girls and boys change that often adversely affect their skating. And then there are two ways. The first - to keep a tight rein on the athlete and make losing weight, as long as possible to maintain youthful appearance. Can be pharmacologically inhibit physical development of athletes. Turn a blind eye to a few minutes after the athlete got up from the table, podevalis eaten.
But there is a second option - when there is a period of growing up, to step aside to give the body to pass their way, form and start all over again. By the time it will take longer, riskier. You can expect a barrage of criticism, saying that where looking coach, skater stout, weight does not keep and do not look after themselves. All this is difficult to survive mentally, coupled with a decrease or lack of results, which naturally follow. After all, with weight changes, growth will break down and technique elements.
In fact, this is a very difficult problem.
Therefore, it seems to me that, given the recent incident with the skater Yulia Antipova, we must seriously puzzled and carefully consider the so-called "transition to adulthood." Draw for a comprehensive discussion of all relevant professionals, including physicians teams and individual groups to express their opinion. It can not be left just like that: talk and forget.
Even a single case - a testament to how this topic is important. Especially now when the Russian figure skating is a change of coaches, comes more and more young professionals who will sooner or later face the challenges of growing athletes. In our figure skating, now there are many talented girls, and we have now to deal with the question of how they grow up. It is from this decision in the first place, will depend on the fate of Olympic medals at the Olympics in Korea.
Coaches need to understand what to do and not to do in this situation, and what absolutely can not do. Coaches should be aware that by the Federation of Medical Service FMBA strictly controlled. And the parents of athletes have to listen and to follow the recommendations for physicians to avoid any "amateur", and then do not look for those responsible for the incident.
Over the years, through my coaching hands passed many students. This Lesch Urmanov, Lesha Yagudin, Oleg Tataurov Zhenya Plushenko, Artur Gachinski, Artur Dmitriev, Lisa Tuktamysheva ... Even before Jeanne Ilyin, Natasha Strelkova Tanya Oleneva, Anna Antonova, Marina Serova ... I can honestly say that I never rush things . Never acted on the principle: win now, and there is the deluge. I have never had a panic because there were a lot of athletes, and when one of them was a member of the awkward age, the other comes out of it.
I am always very calm attitude to criticism of some things. And as I talked about Lisa! "Come on it. This waste material. See how it looks. It will not work. " But the wisdom of the coach lies precisely in the fact that an experienced instructor should know the important things in advance. He must know the athlete, and always maintain the trust. After all, the word that coach - it's like a second father are not empty words. The coach must never betray, even if the students in relation to it is not always behaved with dignity.
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Mr Mishin - I love you!
@galiavich - I was wondering - do you think this interview should be posted in the Injuries & (Other) Ills thread? I think it may have some general relevance, but am not sure - what do you think?
You have my permission to repost anything you like. I was debating if I should put it in this thread or in the Liza thread in "The Edge," but I chose the Fan Fest as the other thread seemed to be mostly a rehash of the same old stuff about her costumes and whatnot.
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Thanks. I first tried posting an excerpt and linking back to your post - but (aggravatingly) the link refused to go live (I tried more than once, and then I tried linking to the page rather than your post, and that didn't work either! - gah!), so I ended up copying the entire interview. I thought it was great food for thought about skaters' health in general during the crucial transition period of growing up, not just as it appertained to Liza, so I wanted more people to see it than just Liza fans.
