The PCS was 84, not 92 right? We should go back to WC 2013 when Chan messed horribly and still won WC.that's how the system works and we should no longer act surprised by this, the biggest demonstration of that was that fateful competition in China where Yuzuru fell a million times.
That is generally true, but I guess it's the current "What on earth is happening?" that this GP series has that makes everything look worse by accumulation. A lot of injuries & connected sup-bar skates (Yuzu, Patrick, Boyang, Dima Aliev, Javi, Shoma (the flu + his rumored ankle injuries and backstage videos here showing him taping said ankle...), Zhenya at NHK in the ladies...) plus weird scoring overall. In France aided by the horrible conditions (bad ice, cheap podium/"medals"...). It just kind of adds up to the feeling of a cursed GP. And tbh, I thought the last 2 years the GP series were way better and stronger overall at this point (when talking about men, not in the other disciplines). So I can't lie, I have that feeling we'll get Sochi skating again too (probably with 2002 judging at that). Not the fault of any single skater, just an overall thing right now that's rather not motivating. Hopefully it turns out wrong though!
lLet's say an athlete performed at 75% of their base value.... which is 100 : they still get 75 points (let's just include GOE as neutral) an athlete having a BV of 75 needs a flawless skate to get the same amount of points...
What is easier to achieve?
To me, that is not a rhetorical question. There are skaters who skate technically easier programs and land all their jumps, and there are others that throw in everything but the kitchen sink and hit quite a few or their elements, but not all. Which is more deserving of the prize?
“At the world level, the men’s figure skating has progressed fast and we’ve been trying to catch up,” said Samarin in regards to the Russian field. “I think it’s starting to happen, and as for the girls, I’m really happy for them.”
ISU World Figure Skating Championships
Number of deduction
year : 24competitors : TOP6 : TOP3 : TOP1
2006 : 8 : 0 : 0 : 0
2007 : 14 : 1 : 0 : 0
2008 : 12 : 1 : 0 : 0
2009 : 9 : 1 : 1 : 1
2010 : 14 : 4 : 2 : 0
2011 : 14 : 3 : 0 : 0
2012 : 11 : 4 : 3 : 2
2013 : 14 : 3 : 2 : 2
2014 : 6 : 0 : 0 : 0
2015 : 14 : 2 : 2 : 1
2016 : 12 : 1 : 1 : 0
2017 : 14 : 3 : 0 : 0
The number of deduction is not increasing.
In recent years, only Patrick's 2012, 2013 won the ISU World Figure Skating Championships with deduction 2.00.
Despite the large number of deductions, the only competitor that can win is the PCS high competitor.
As a matter of fact, competitors with many quads do not have many mistakes.
In reality, in ISU World Figure Skating Championships 2017, TOP 3 hanyu, uno and jin had little mistakes and deduction was 0.
The more mistakes were made, such as Chan and Javier with few quads.
these stats are flawed though as they do not take into consideration popping jumps... or landing on your knees.... those are just for quads... and if some do fall on their quads, most pop them or just land them very roughly...
and FWIW : Chan's deductions didn't happen on his quads in 2012 and 2013 but on much easier jumps
Misha's last GP event, and his first GP medal.
The PCS was 84, not 92 right? We should go back to WC 2013 when Chan messed horribly and still won WC.
After all, I think that it is caused by the fact that the concept of PCS is not clear. It is unclear whether or not the failure of the jump affects PCS.
This:
I ask to you all where is written in the rules or guidelines that one fall or two, or downgrded/popped jumps should affects all the PCS (obviously this happen if you have falls, pops, UR and in general a messy skate).
And if yes, if fall/falls have to affect just PE, IN and maybe CO, or also SS and TR, and more important in which measure.
In fact, I know that now it has been said just that with a fall there should be no 10s (though we know that also in this season this indication was not followed...)
For example: if I see a performance realised with great SS and superb transitions (continuity in general, difficulty and variety), combined with an very hard technical layout (now for men 3 or more quads plus 2 3A and some triples in FS) and with a strong commitment of the skater in IN and in general in PE and maybe just one fall and one downgraded jump not particularly disrupting the performance, I don't see why this should affect SS and TR, and sometimes also CO e IN, for example. To me this should affects only the scores of PE...or not?
Thank you in advance for your answers.