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Only in Canada. Or: Only when they're not competing head to head.
Can we dismiss D/W's score as being only in America then? What happens when they compete head to head in Canada (as in the GPF)?
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Only in Canada. Or: Only when they're not competing head to head.
I know. But do you really and truly believe their program is the equal of D/W?Can we dismiss D/W's score as being only in America then? What happens when they compete head to head in Canada (as in the GPF).
I know. But do you really and truly believe their program is the equal of D/W?
I know. But do you really and truly believe their program is the equal of D/W?
Can we dismiss D/W's score as being only in America then? What happens when they compete head to head in Canada (as in the GPF)?
Well, they can always pretend to be sick or fake an accident, better than raise a white flag. Sorry, I can't help it when some people like to abuse the word "never" in this sport. Then again, some people insist V/M only won the Olympics because it happened in Canada - only to find out they could also beat anyone else outside of Canada (in Italy) as well a month later.
Chock and Bates already superior to R/T who won a medal on last years GP!!
Nope. V/M will never catch D/W with that FD. Have to eat my words.
First step: find a wordless version of this music, like Balanchine did for Who Cares. Instant upgrade in classic elegance. All those words are just plain distracting.
Second step: new hairdo and costume for Tess. Just let it down and look pretty, girl, and get a less severe dress. She looks like an aging ballerina or Gloria Swanson in Sunset Blvd.
Third step: I wish I had one. It needs an implant of excitement.
Well, I respect you guys and will watch both again (duh)... but this was an honest first reaction from someone who fully expected them to top even the amazing FD that D/W have put out. For me this program can't touch the Mahler FD which was my idea of an instant masterpiece.
Yes, I truly do.
D/W do what they do well, but it's all surface. There's no profound understanding of the music. I love the shifts in colour in the performance from V/M: there's a playful spirit, the beautiful embodiment of characters, the slightly noirish tinge, the wistful S'Wonderful, and the terrific climax. It can definitely improve, and I expect it too, but the scores are so close that I really don't get how you can be so utterly dismissive of them, to be honest.
For all the talk of individual personal preferences of either D/W or V/M and the skating style, performance ability, musical nuance, home ice advantage, etc. between the two events, their difference in score comes down to one level on the first rhumba sequence.
Riazanova/Tkachenko got at music restriction violations of -2.00. Not uplifting enough or no discernable beat?
Disagree with me all you want but please don't tell me what I'm arguing. I thought Mahler was fabulous the first time I saw it. And I suggested improvements precisely so that V/M's program can be more competitive with D/W. I realize I misspoke by saying "never" but I meant "never in this form" ie not unless they rework it with improvements such as those I immediately tried to suggest... or better ones!Right. But even Mahler had to wait until Nationals/Olympics before it was skated at it's peak, so what you're arguing is that D/W have put out something so superior that V/M are simply incapable of beating them no matter how much they improve.