From never skating to Axel in two months
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I am also fascinated, but I don't really believe it. I skate with many youngsters, the ones who can do an axel train long and hard for it, and do pretty good in (adult) competitions (not counting myself, I just am too old to learn such tricks easily or at all).
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I mean my Keegan, Adam Rippon and other famous skaters commented…pretty sure my Danny too..would they know if it were fake? (Serious question)
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He says it’s a “side quest” and wants to know what to try next. No! Keep skating…with proper coaching of course.
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Johnny Weir taught himself to perform a 3 axel off-ice through watching it performed on television and practicing it sans skates in his backyard when he was 11.
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Haha, my IG shows him to me since early March. He is fun but that's all that is to it. A person who is very fit with good balance and strong plyometric training and taught how to rotate can learn edge jumps with forward entry quite fast. This doesn't mean much, especially doesn't mean this person is more talented than those who train since childhood, this means they managed to transfer certain skills from another sport to skating. Yes, impressive as hell, but without strong basics it's just a trick.
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Haha, this guy appeared a lot in my feed since he's actually in my city - he even skates at the exact same rink I skate in 
Agree 100% with what @Karoltyna said - he clearly just wanted to try an axel on ice and not the entire sport of figure skating (yet). His kungfu background and his strong, well-conditioned body definitely helps with the jump and the rotation. Impressive of course, but he's only jumping an axel and not skating.
The top comment on that post got it right: "You’d be unstoppable if you learned the basics first"
I am a fit person myself (pilates, yoga, strength training, cycling) with the caveat that I only started doing all those about 3 years ago. I passed LTS 1-6 in 2 terms (about 4 months) which apparently is fast for a newbie adult skater - but I'm not gonna try an axel until my coach says I'm ready. As the top comment said, I'll master the basics first
Side note - I found his GoFundMe page and he said that he'll be taking private lessons and he even wants to try for the 2030 Olympics ("who knows"). Looking at the current state of Australian men singles skating...... who knows indeed
Agree 100% with what @Karoltyna said - he clearly just wanted to try an axel on ice and not the entire sport of figure skating (yet). His kungfu background and his strong, well-conditioned body definitely helps with the jump and the rotation. Impressive of course, but he's only jumping an axel and not skating.
The top comment on that post got it right: "You’d be unstoppable if you learned the basics first"
I am a fit person myself (pilates, yoga, strength training, cycling) with the caveat that I only started doing all those about 3 years ago. I passed LTS 1-6 in 2 terms (about 4 months) which apparently is fast for a newbie adult skater - but I'm not gonna try an axel until my coach says I'm ready. As the top comment said, I'll master the basics first
Side note - I found his GoFundMe page and he said that he'll be taking private lessons and he even wants to try for the 2030 Olympics ("who knows"). Looking at the current state of Australian men singles skating...... who knows indeed
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I remember there was a gymnast named Nikita Nagorny who would do videos where he tries different sports with pros. He did some with Medvedeva and Shcherbakova and was doing jumps during his first day. I think it's pretty normal for elite athletes that are already extremely used to rotation and balance. He was a gold medalist so peak general athletic talent and so on. He would also teach gymnastics to people and there were some athletes who would do pretty advanced tricks within their first day of training with him. I feel like this stuff is pretty regular in the sports world. You really can't compare average kids or adult beginners to this sort of stuff. Total category error really.
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What about Darian Kaptich? I thought he was back?Haha, this guy appeared a lot in my feed since he's actually in my city - he even skates at the exact same rink I skate in
Agree 100% with what @Karoltyna said - he clearly just wanted to try an axel on ice and not the entire sport of figure skating (yet). His kungfu background and his strong, well-conditioned body definitely helps with the jump and the rotation. Impressive of course, but he's only jumping an axel and not skating.
The top comment on that post got it right: "You’d be unstoppable if you learned the basics first"
I am a fit person myself (pilates, yoga, strength training, cycling) with the caveat that I only started doing all those about 3 years ago. I passed LTS 1-6 in 2 terms (about 4 months) which apparently is fast for a newbie adult skater - but I'm not gonna try an axel until my coach says I'm ready. As the top comment said, I'll master the basics first
Side note - I found his GoFundMe page and he said that he'll be taking private lessons and he even wants to try for the 2030 Olympics ("who knows"). Looking at the current state of Australian men singles skating...... who knows indeed
And yes who knows but he’d still have to make tech minimums.
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Is generational talent too much?
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Not sure what you are asking me.
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Generational talent? Did you perhaps mean to say "genetic talent" as in an inherited ability to do certain physical activities or actions?I often see children who don't skate watching figure skaters practising, and then having fun imitating them off the ice, doing multi-rotation jumps on the floor in their sneakers, with no instruction or explanation. I might be mildly impressed by this person if he landed his jump on one foot, on a clean running edge. And also demonstrated an ability to do other more basic skating elements than one jump.
Otherwise.....meh. I can't believe anyone would actually contribute money to encourage him. The adage "a fool and his money are soon parted" springs to mind.
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I did that as a kid
never on the ice though. I had recorded (VCRed) a jump mechanics tutorial and was trying them. I was fun. I believe my favourites were axel and lutz LOLHave you looked at his GOFUNDME? He wants to take lessons at $85 an hour, go to the Olympics, and is trying to raise $1200! He isn't there yet. Talk about wildly unrealistic!
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The Eddie the Eagle of figure skating. I wouldn't be surprised if, when someone sets him straight about how he can't just enter himself in the Olympics as if it were only a local marathon race, he just takes what money he raises and vanishes.
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Same for my boy, he can rotate off ice but if he tries anything more tham waltz jump on ice without a coach guiding him, I will cut his laces into tiny pieces and refuse to replace them. Though he lands his waltzes on a nice outside edge and can hold it. I'd say that guy has very good athletic ability and can master basics of most sports he tries but this won't translate to him becoming a pro athlete.
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