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Gabriella Papadakis & Guillaume Cizeron

#oat Yes, I agree. Also their conditioning is way better, at the end of the 2014 program, they're so much out of breath whereas last week at Euros I noticed they did not look tired at all.
I still like their Woodkid FD though, it was fierce.
 
#oat Yes, I agree. Also their conditioning is way better, at the end of the 2014 program, they're so much out of breath whereas last week at Euros I noticed they did not look tired at all.

Maybe that's because their new FD is so much slower and not as frantic ?
 
#oat Yes, I agree. Also their conditioning is way better, at the end of the 2014 program, they're so much out of breath whereas last week at Euros I noticed they did not look tired at all.

Maybe that's because their new FD is so much slower and not as frantic ?

So much slower, I'm not sure. Commentators and people (at least the one I asked on the forum) who saw them live say they skate really fast. Frantic though might be true. But let's not forget that in 2014, they were not skating full time and were still in Lyon. Then that summer, they moved to Montreal and started dedicating all their time to training. So, I think proper conditioning has a lot to do, esp. for Gabriella who's a bit on the frail side.
 
Finally there is a good quality video of their Art on Ice number with James Gruntz - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cljsk6seKOA

To be honest, I am a bit surprised that they have just one number this year again. I don't believe that Art on Ice organizers would have intentionally left the current World and European ice dance champions with just one program, even if both Jessie J and The Jacksons had a limit on how many songs they were going to sing. It must have been P/C's own choice. Probably they just did not have enough time to prepare two numbers with the intense training for Euros. But they could have skated the exhibition version of their last season FD, just like Fernandez and Sotnikova skated their exhibition versions of 'Black Betty' an 'Je suis malade' respectively as the second number.
 
Finally there is a good quality video of their Art on Ice number with James Gruntz - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cljsk6seKOA

To be honest, I am a bit surprised that they have just one number this year again. I don't believe that Art on Ice organizers would have intentionally left the current World and European ice dance champions with just one program, even if both Jessie J and The Jacksons had a limit on how many songs they were going to sing. It must have been P/C's own choice. Probably they just did not have enough time to prepare two numbers with the intense training for Euros. But they could have skated the exhibition version of their last season FD, just like Fernandez and Sotnikova skated their exhibition versions of 'Black Betty' an 'Je suis malade' respectively as the second number.

Gabriella & Guillaume's focus being the Europeans and Worlds, I guess they had no time to prepare a second number, especially after Gabriella's concussion?
 
Yes, I think so too. But also, I've the feeling (cause I'm not in their head really) that they do not care much for Exhibition and Galas. It's not their strong suit. I feel they love the competition more. And, I will add that the music they skate on in AOI is a bit of a drag so that doesn't help.
 
Their FD is just unbelievable and fantastic...
I am quite sad they could not perform such a gem at the Bombard and NHK Trophies and of course at the GPF in Barcelona...
 
Their FD is just unbelievable and fantastic...
I am quite sad they could not perform such a gem at the Bombard and NHK Trophies and of course at the GPF in Barcelona...

Yes I know, I can't believe we will just have one more time to watch it, maybe two with the WTT. Have you been watching the video ? Is the feeling close to the one you got live watching them ? What I like about watching ice dance on screen is the close-ups we get to enjoy.
 
Their FD is just unbelievable and fantastic...
I am quite sad they could not perform such a gem at the Bombard and NHK Trophies and of course at the GPF in Barcelona...

same here - after each re-watch of that FD I see new things - arm movement, head turn...Everything is so magnificently incorporated into the music it is not even funny...They are an unity with the music, crossing on ice with so much ease and giving us time we wish it would never end (at least I feel so). There is a true sense of uniqueness regarding their style, presence on ice and relationship/interaction. I'd say we are happy people to witness it, to see their growth/development (maybe I'm weird, but they do seem more mature that last season...).

And yes, it is a true shame that they wouldn't be able to perform it at TEB and GPF (where they would surely be without a doubt), but the I am excited to see it at Worlds and WTT (is WTT happening this year at all or only Team Challenge competition?)
 
I've heard they are going to show completely new programs at Worlds. I wonder if that rumor is true...
 
I've heard they are going to show completely new programs at Worlds. I wonder if that rumor is true...

I hope it is a total rumor...It would make me mad, if they (hypothetically ofc) are changing their programs (especially FD) just because there are some voices that they're repeating themselves second season in a row...The feeling about FD COULD resemble similar to Mozart, because that's their style, a signature they developed so quickly, without any heavy effort, but both programs are totally different (yes, this may be my only opinion, but as I said many times - I'd rather see great program based on couples' strengths and style than forced, experimental stuff they are not comfortable with)
 
Who said that?
I can imagine a few changes/additions, especially in the SD, but new programs, honestly... no way!
I've read that at Artur Verner's website. I don't mind them do something completely different. They might give it a try at Worlds see how it goes and make adjustments in FD prior than anyone else for the upcoming season, keeping the routine. Not a bad idea after all.
Still I wonder if that is true.
 
somehow, I really doubt it. They got a good score for their FD and all the articles and commentators I read or heard were in awe. SD, I can see some small changes but they got level 4 on all elements except the diagonal step sequence that they will probably make more difficult. The lift could change in SD too because they do the same one in the FD. The lift fit well at the end of the FD but they do need to impress the judges a bit more on the SD.
The main top teams have a classical SD which seem to go down well with the judges and P/C's weakness has always been the SD so far. They need to not have such a big lag after the SD like last year's worlds where they were 4th because W/P is stronger this year IMO. And let's not forget Worlds are in Boston with a strong Shibs team with load of home support, plus C/B whose forte is also the SD.
 
I've read that at Artur Verner's website. I don't mind them do something completely different. They might give it a try at Worlds see how it goes and make adjustments in FD prior than anyone else for the upcoming season, keeping the routine. Not a bad idea after all.
Still I wonder if that is true.

Thanks for posting the link to the article from Artur Verner's site. I was not so far able to find the information.

Looks really weird. I hardly see a competitor like Guillaume going to the Worlds to "try something new". Well, of course, you can change one component (like they did with their last lift between the Nationals and Europeans). I am 100% sure P/C want to get a second World title in Boston hence, from that point of view, they can really rely on their current stunning programs.
 
I've heard they are going to show completely new programs at Worlds. I wonder if that rumor is true...

I've read that at Artur Verner's website.

Thanks for posting the link to the article from Artur Verner's site. I was not so far able to find that information.
I read the report on Eouros on Verner's site. He does not claim to know anything. It's just an ironic (cynical even) expression. He writes that they skated the same programs to new music (taking the view that quite many seem to share about programs which are similar in style to last season's to the extreme), and are obviously hiding the real new programs for Worlds. Not a direct translation, but that's the gist.
 
I am absolutely sure that info about new program is a total fabrication.
That person, who started that rumor, also writes that in Bratislava P/C showed their old program with old elements, just with new music. :palmf: a real moron!
I want to add, that he is absolutely not trustworthy, has scandalous reputation, and on some russian figure skating forums it is even forbidden to give links on his so called articles.
 
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