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Gabriella Papadakis & Guillaume Cizeron

Yep, I will be in Moscow from Jan 15 to 22 for the Europeans!

Sounds crazy but Gabriella and Guillaume could potentially win up to 8 European titles (Total since 2015) until 2022. Even 6 European crowns would be the very first time in ice dance history

lucky guy !!! have a great time and don't forget to report !!!
 
I love their reactions to this information as Gotlev translation of the french eurosport facebook interview :
VO: So come and ask the questions you may have for Guillaume and Gabriella.
We told you in the introduction, but you two have a little record with us here on Eurosport: you are the most-watched video on FB, your first world record on November 4th, that got 27 million views; so we're hoping for the same amount of people for this 'live' (laughs), but in the meantime, come and ask your questions!
https://www.facebook.com/EurosportFR/videos/1990682251183199/?type=2&theater at 1.24 mn

guillaume surprise !!
 
That's a lot of travelling...Montreal to France
France to Finland
Finland to Montreal
Montreal to Beijing, China
Beijing to Montreal
Montreal to France
France to Montreal
Montreal to Nagoya,Japan
Japan to France - now they can can rest.
The "issue" with the 3 top french teams is that they train either in Montreal or Michigan, so going to france for GP or Nationals is quite the long travel...

They could have stayed in France after Finland and China!
 
It looks like Guillaume's right arm sleeve has a blue stain on it (perhaps stained by Gabby's dress?). Is it just my eyes? Check out the slow-mo section. I love their costume though. So understated but very elegant.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvz3rngnHT0

Rewatching it I noticed Gaby's dress which was a new one in the GPF due to a rip is back to its original and more vibrant color which I totally approve. I thought the color was too dull at the GPF. Then could it be they had it dyed in France hence the stain on Guillaume's sleeve. I checked and I can't see the stain during the GPF. Anyway I'm just thrilled they went back to the original color, gorgeous and so vivid in comparison to his top and of course the ice.

Seeing how wonderful the camera works were how on earth can't they properly film the Masters ????? Also who do we need to petition at the ISU to demand extra slo-mo at every competitions from now on. Although not every team would pass the gorgeousness test successfully imo :p
 
I think it's still the GPF one. It's not a different color, it's just that they went for a sheer fabric above the upper chest through the arms and also for the skirt. It creates a more interesting visual variation. But I don't have a clear preference at this point.
 
I think it's still the GPF one. It's not a different color, it's just that they went for a sheer fabric above the upper chest through the arms and also for the skirt. It creates a more interesting visual variation. But I don't have a clear preference at this point.

I like both, I think the last one adds a dimensional layer to the outfit. I also think that if you watch any competition from japan, everyone and everything seems whitewashed, no ? NHK, GPF, there are less colors.
 
I think it's still the GPF one. It's not a different color, it's just that they went for a sheer fabric above the upper chest through the arms and also for the skirt. It creates a more interesting visual variation. But I don't have a clear preference at this point.

Yes, it's the same (new) dress as in the GPF - the seam work is still visible in the sleeves, which wasn't the case before. The colour did look a bit stronger and darker in the footage from France, though, which might be down to the rink lighting or something in the camerawork.

Thinking about it, I wonder if the dress from the start of the season was a 'draft' version made to test whether the cut and the skirt would work, and to protect the 'real' version from tears and so on during the early rounds of competition, and was always intended to be replaced for the 'big' competitions of GPF, Europeans, Olympics and Worlds. If so, it was a good plan!

There was definitely a small blue stain on Guillaume's sleeve, though, so it looks like the new version isn't/wasn't completely colourfast under working conditions. A decent dry-clean should clear that up in time for Europeans...
 
I like both, I think the last one adds a dimensional layer to the outfit. I also think that if you watch any competition from japan, everyone and everything seems whitewashed, no ? NHK, GPF, there are less colors.
Absolutely. Everything in the Japanese videos looks grey-ish. My friend also was disappointed that the blue was less intense, but we agreed that that was most certainly only due to the colour settings of the Japanese recording, which she had noticed herself already.
Although another reason for the less intense colour is the looser weave which has Gabriella's skin shine through more easily. But I think the colour of the thread is exactly the same.
I also have the feeling that the new dress is a teeny tiny bit longer. But I suppose that can only be really seen on podium pics.
I like this one better because it is more delicate and gives the idea of a gradient at the top. I'm still wondering how it is made though, but maybe I'm mistaken in my stretch idea and the whole top sticks to Gabriella's skin because of elastic hems?
 
Free dance: 123.10! Total: 202.11!! Yay!!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvz3rngnHT0
That super slomo is really gorgeous. What a little (well...) chauvinism can do!
Also interesting to learn that Beethoven composed this piece specifically for Gaby and Guigui. Absolutely deserved, no question there, but I suppose that's the privilege of being part of the celebrity in-crowd: you get stuff that crosses all boundaries of space and time. :laugh:
 
That super slomo is really gorgeous. What a little (well...) chauvinism can do!
Also interesting to learn that Beethoven composed this piece specifically for Gaby and Guigui. Absolutely deserved, no question there, but I suppose that's the privilege of being part of the celebrity in-crowd: you get stuff that crosses all boundaries of space and time. :laugh:

I laughed so hard at that comment :laugh: I'm sure he meant either that this suit them so well or that it's cut to fit them haha !
 
Facebook Live : https://www.facebook.com/EurosportFR/videos/vb.1433845536866876/1990682251183199/?type=2&theater

EDIT : a couple of very intersting things - They were asked : what are your favourites program you've done ?

Gaby : to skate, maybe this year. Guillaume kind of agrees, he said Mozart too.
But to watch, they both said "Build a Home" - it wasn't the easiest to skate though. There is something that came along that was a discovery (the "Build a home moment", I'm sure everyone know what I'm talking about - something that isn't controlled)
Gaby : Also to watch, strangely, the waltz SD. We hated it at first :laugh: Well not hated it, no, but because it gave us so much trouble (Guillaume adds : we hated it for a long time because of that :laugh:). When I (Gaby) watched, I was like : I like it, not bad !

Also : what are your favourite moments on the ice/in your career ?

Gaby : maybe after the Mozart FD in China (the 1st she thought about) but they are so many, they are all equal.
Guillaume : at the end of the day, probably the trainings, because this is what I'll remember.
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It's funny how they make it look so easy yet they have so much trouble doing it right at first - testament of the hardwork all the skaters put on the ice. It's nice that they "like" to watch themselves on the ice too (probably not as much as we do but still :biggrin:)

OK, here's a bit more of the translation. Due to the mic being towards G&G and not to the interviewer (Florent Amodio?), and due to many many self-interrupted sentences, it's taking me a loooong time to get through it, but I'll finish it somehow.


Florent Amodio [I can't find the post back, but someone said it was him asking the questions? Could someone confirm or else give the name of the interviewer?]: Hi to all, welcome to the FB page of Eurosport for another 'live' with two guests: Guillaume Cizeron and Gabriella Papadakis. Hello to both of you (GC: Hi; GP: Good evening!)
So, you have already been here at Eurosport, that was a little under one year ago, but that was before your extraordinary start of this season, before those 3 world records in less than one month; how are you guys?

Gabriella Papadakis: We are doing really great, we are really pleased with what we did last week, we set another record and gave two performances that were at the top of what we wanted to do. We're now in Paris since two days and we're doing a media tour; it's really nice to be in France and meet everyone.

FA: We remind everyone that on the 4th of November, you were the first [ice] dancers to cross the bar of 200 points, 200.43 if I'm not making any mistakes, on the 18th of November once again, and now, Nagoya, which was last weekend, again a world record with over 202 points; it's a canonball start of the season for you two!

Guillaume Cizeron: Yes, well yes, it's all that we hoped for, we really worked our guts out at the trainings this summer, we worked very hard for this, so we're really happy that we were able to, well, deliver performances of that level, and, moreover, be able to face the pressure, that wasn't easy; but this reassures us a bit, it proves us that we're on the right track. There.

FA: So come and ask the questions you may have for Guillaume and Gabriella.
We told you in the introduction, but you two have a little record with us here on Eurosport: you are the most-watched video on FB, your first world record on November 4th, that got 27 million views; so we're hoping for the same amount of people for this 'live' (laughs), but in the meantime, come and ask your questions!
I've got a first question: Does this world record not fall a bit early in your season? Because, let's not forget, you have a huge target: PyeongChang, the OG in February; are you not ready too early after all?

GP: Ready too early? No, in fact, yes, we surely got great scores, and much better than last year, but that proves us that we have made a lot of progress compared to last year, that we're on the right track, on the right path, but, truly, we, what we notice is everything that needs improving, and there still is a lot to improve on, the scores a far from maximum, at least in our eyes; so no, we're not worried by this, we know that there are still many many things to improve on.

FA: I've got Theo who says "congratulations" (GC, GP: thanks).
A question from Romain: "How do you approach the coming GO?" How do you prepare yourselves?

GC: Hi Romain. Well... We try to stay level-headed, we try to stay concentrated on our work, on our small bubble, that's it. We have a coaching team with us who are there to support us; well, after all, these are our first Olympic Games, and well, it can be a bit stressy, but we have coaches and trainers with us who are there to help us, who have already the experience of the Games, so we're mostly trusting in them/leaning on that, and well, we stay concentrated on what we have to do.

FA: Max asks: "Can you still get a better result as far as the points go?", have you put a mark for yourselves, or some kind of [target]...?

GP: Yes, yes, certainly, as I said before, there is still a margin, sure. It's clear that these are very very good results, but we know that there are still plenty of things that can be improved, and the points can still really go up, and that's what we're hoping for at the Olympic Games.

FA: Theo says: "You just spoke about the mediatization of the performances, do think it is a pity--" Do you have the feeling to be under-mediatized? Like, compared to what you are achieving? Theo gives the example of Candeloro at that time, Surya Bonali and all those people, do you feel that... [Guillaume starts answering and the mic is pointed towards them, so his 'MOOOUI' (a hesitant yes) makes it for me hardly possible to hear the words of the interviewer, I think this is what he says, but it doesn't make much sense for me: "Ce n'est pas passé par les Jeux justement." I wouldn't know what that is supposed to mean other than: "It didn't happen because of the Games, notably (as in: in contrast to G&G)." Anybody any light to shed?]
[How strange that a written question from a viewer is not read literally, but rephrased by the interviewer...]

GC: It's true that we're in a period, even worldwide, in the US or wherever, in which skating is maybe less popular than at a certain time, but well, after all, everything is relative: it's clear that it's less mediatized than football or rugby or other sports like that, which are more popular today, but we're not complaining, we still have always full stadiums, so well, it carries on in its own sweet way, I think there are more and more people who get to know us, and more importantly, get to know the sport, and that is what is important to us, for a start, to bring programs that are modern, that are not old-fashioned, which can promote the image of skating, of what it can be today... So well, under-mediatized, no, it's true that the more talk of skating there is, the better, because it makes the kids want to skate, it can inspire, well, 'callings', but well, so, we're not frustrated.

FA: Julien talks about the OG, the simplest question in the world [I think, I'm not sure if the VO says something like 'the simplest thing in the world', Gabriella has a short laugh which again falls over the words of the VO that seem to be something like "for you/us also" before continuing] Do you think you will be Olympic champions?

GP: Well, yes, we just won the Grand Prix Final against, in fact, all of the competitors that we will have at the Olympic Games, so yes, it's doable, it's totally possible. Then again, will it be easy? NO, that's for sure, we will have to work enormously to remain the favourites and stay ahead, but yes, we know it's possible.

FA: Can we talk about-- does it also affect your sport, the psychological upper hand / the mental edge, in fact: having won something special just before THE four-yearly meet-up of the coming Games, or not at all? [Again these extremity-based questions: something totally, or not at all...]

GC: Well, you have to do your job on D-day, ah, you need-- without a perfect delivery, you can't claim the win. So our job is to make sure that they can't deduct points, that there is no discussion possible on each technical element, that it is also artistically very coherent, very powerful, so... Obviously, it's very mental, on D-day: we did it in training a million times, we know we can do it, that's not the issue; the obstacle is mental: it's stress, it's everything that can come and perturb us, anything that can come and-- It could also be an injury or something, it could be anything, but... Well, the target is that we do it as well as in training.

FA: That's one of my questions, actually, the mental side: How do you deal with this stress, this most difficult thing, [really needing help with the next few words because the sound quality and unfinished phrases leave me lost in the woods, I make an attempt for something meaningful but would like correction/confirmation] if you could stay behind your music score, the technical side etc, but the mental part, how do you deal with all that?

GP: Yes, the mind, that's complicated, because, yes, that's it, because we can work and be totally perfect and totally ready all that we want, but the day of the competition, everything comes down to what happens in the head. So, it's something-- so, well, you need self-confidence, so, you shouldn't think too much, you should-- it really is some sort of 'positive formatting' that needs to be done before the skate, and that surely is difficult, especially in very stressful moments, but we work a lot, we have a mental coach, named Steffany Hanlen, with whom we work since a bit over one year, so, well, with her we did a lot of this kind of work, we talk with her a lot, she is with us at many competitions, so, that's it. At our level, the mind is essential.

FA: Philippe asks: "Do you spend time together apart from skating, or is the on-ice time more than enough?"

GC: Well, it already almost fills all of our days. We don't spend much time together outside the ice or other activities that are part of our career. There.

FA: Well, exactly: what's a typical day for you?

GP: Well, in Montreal, where we train, in fact, it's like this: we wake up, go to the rink, do a warming up of one hour, then we have two separate training sessions of an hour and a half-- more like two hours in fact, with a break in between, and then in the evening we have either physical preparation or an appointment-- MANY appointments with the [kinesitherapist], the physiotherapist, massages, and so hop, the day quickly comes to an end.

FA: Fougue [??] ask me-- well, asks YOU, sorry,: "How do you choose your music?" How is this selection done? Is it in agreement with all, or...

GC: It's done-- Well, after all is said and done, the decision lies with US, a little also to-- a right to veto some music that we don't like or so, so it's mainly about what WE want to-- what we feel like skating to; but it's nevertheless a decision that is taken collectively with our coaches, with our coach-- well, our choreographers, because, well, the program needs to work first of all, it needs to be feasible, we need to find a concept that works, that's according to the rules, on which we can put the [technical] elements, one that inspires us, but also the choreographer, so everybody adds their two cents, and... Yes, it, it takes more time or less time; it's true that this year, our choices were quite easy, we can say, while other years it was more complicated, some times.

FA: Batisse, who speaks of your programs, asks: "Do you have a favourite moment in one of your programs?" Is there a thing that you like specifically well, or apart from that [not sure at all due to the same issue], maybe there's a moment you even dread?

GP: (thinks) No, in fact, I think that it's a whole, we take our choreographies as a whole and, and we don't take each piece of the choreography, we try to make it our own and all that. It's true that, yes, there are for example technical parts that we're a bit fearful of, sure, it's all stuff like the step sequences, the twizzles, we really dread all of that, but otherwise, no, I think that, me personally anyway, I don't have a favourite moment in my programs.

GC: No... Not really. There are parts that we like to rehearse more than others, but... No, all is-- It's more that there are parts that "get on our nerves", so to say, (GP: parts that are more difficult than others, yes), because we spend a lot of time on one step sometimes, that we don't manage, or that isn't good enough and then... And then also, sometimes the rules are very specific about things that for us, sometimes, don't make a lot of sense, so we are forced to spend time to improve things that don't inspire us and are not interesting to work on.

FA: Edoardo asks, speaking of Montreal: "Is it a sacrifice to live abroad for your sports career?"

GP: Yes, well, it's-- in fact, I think that the real sacrifice lies in focussing totally on one's career, even though, well, for me, anyway, I don't really consider it a sacrifice because it's so totally our passion that, that, well, these are sacrifices in quotation marks, but, but, in the end, it's only joy, we love doing this, so, well. Sure, living abroad is not necessarily easy in the beginning, but, but well, Montreal, it's, it's also not the most difficult city in the world, it's, well, it remains, for starters it's French speaking, and it stays quite close to France, culturally, so, no, so it's really a beautiful city and we're happy there.

FA: Julien asks if he can get tickets to come and cheer you on? It's for PyeongChang, it's going to be a bit complicated, but it's a nice try, no? (laughter)

GP: Unfortunately... (laughter)

FA: I've got Hugo who asks, so this is a bit a wider scope: "Your ultimate goal--" you said it, you broke the world records-- what is it, is it-- What, what is most important to you? Is it the records - knowing that records can be beaten? Or is it to bring, obviously, medals home, specifically the Olympic medal?

GC: Well obviously there's a competitive part in which we want to grab medals that we don't have yet; then, yes, there are records; at one point it's going to be how many times we got this medal and how many times world champions, how many times... All of that, but we didn't set a particular target, what happens happens naturally, we don't force things, we don't have a... Yea, it's-- we-- I think that things are off to a good start, so we don't, we don't need to set such specific targets, and then again, if we would put them, it's always, it's always a bit tricky, because if we don't attain them, we run a big risk of being disappointed, so...

FA: Nicolas asks: "How do you deal with an event" - this harps back a bit to the question about the mind, but it's a bit like that - "How do you deal with the situation of being the favourites in an event?" Is it easier to go as outsiders, thinking "Well, we're going for broke" or to go with all eyes focussed on you and say...

GP: Well, that depends on the athletes, I heard both. We, I think that we are more comfortable with the situation we are in right now, we like to be the chased instead of the chaser. It's a position that we didn't always have, but well, it's, anyway, we prefer this. I wouldn't know exactly why, but (laughs) but we prefer this.
 
Gaby and Guillaume are back in Montréal for the resumption of training in Gadbois next Tuesday (Dec 26) so merry Christmas to them.
They needed a really deserved break prior to the home stretch.

And merry Christmas to you guys as well :)
 
A wonderful Christmas to all of you avid followers of Gaby and Guillaume! It is good to hear that G & G have had some rest. I doubt if they ever read this forum, but I am sure we all wish them a good Christmas as well!
 
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