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- Feb 17, 2010
I see many photos on IceNetwork that I would like to have. Why would they make it impossible to save them? Is there any way to save them? Are these photos available anywhere else? Any help would be appreciated!
I disagree with Toni. This is a very interesting point that I feel strongly about. Many photogs post photos on-line so that others can see them and enjoy them, and for other reasons. Most are, what others consider, low quality. If I post a photo and someone wants it by right clicking so they can share it or look at it later, then what is the difference between that and viewing it on line? Selling it or profiting by it or not giving a credit is another story. Removing the watermark is also wrong. But I have downloaded many photos for my own enjoyment and dont feel bad about it. I also record radio shows so I can listen to them in my car. I think photogs that want their web shots protected can do that..nothing wrong with that...if you dont want people to see your work for free, then why are you posting it in the first place? If it is a paid for site, then protect your work. Which is what Icenetwork does.
Interesting views on viewing vs printing. I dont print pics hardly at all....no reason to for my usages....if one of my air racing photog friends puts a great pic up on an air racing forum, I always ask them first if I can include it in any DVD I might make of my own pics I took that I send to friends and that is fair. I had no idea there were ways to get around on line protection. In my opinion, if someone uses some tool to do that, then they are just as guilty as the person who illeagly downloads songs. If I see a great painting at a gallery, I always ask first before I take a picture of it...I know the rules for the gallery. If an artist puts their painting up at the gallery, they should make clear what they expect and know the rules. I never have been told that, If I am allowed to take a pic of a painting, I cant print it out, however...
Well, we can agree on that last statement! The webmaster for Ryan Bradley's site asked to use my pics and of course I let her...taking someone's photos and posting them on a website without permission is wrong, and most websites have advertising so in a way they are using the pics for bucks. Technology is creating all sorts of interesting situations. 50 years ago, if I wanted to quote an author in an article I was writing for bucks about, say, the fallicy that diamonds had any real value beyond their industial uses, all I had to do was put in the quote, and attribute it to the writer. In a sense, I "stole" their work without asking permission, but it was and as far as I know, is completely legal. So what is the difference between that and taking someone's pic, cropping a detail from it, posting it and adding a credit? Beats me. But I do think it is right to ask.
There's a difference between fair use and copyright infringement. I'm a researcher, and I cite other people's work all the time. I don't snip out parts of their work and pretend they're mine, though. I'm happy to have other people use my work so long at they cite it properly, and while academic research is not commercial photography, you don't just take credit for other people's work in either context. Some photographers will allow you to use their materials without compensation - just credit (see on Flickr and Creative Commons) but the bottom line is, they get to decide, not the person who wants to use their work.Well, we can agree on that last statement! The webmaster for Ryan Bradley's site asked to use my pics and of course I let her...taking someone's photos and posting them on a website without permission is wrong, and most websites have advertising so in a way they are using the pics for bucks. Technology is creating all sorts of interesting situations. 50 years ago, if I wanted to quote an author in an article I was writing for bucks about, say, the fallicy that diamonds had any real value beyond their industial uses, all I had to do was put in the quote, and attribute it to the writer. In a sense, I "stole" their work without asking permission, but it was and as far as I know, is completely legal. So what is the difference between that and taking someone's pic, cropping a detail from it, posting it and adding a credit? Beats me. But I do think it is right to ask.