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It's not quite what MM is asking in the other thread, but Kimmie did it in her Worlds champion skate, and she was a US champ (the next year).
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Wait! I am trying to agree with you. In all of Michelle's 9 U.S. championship LPs she never landed seven triples, except that one time, 1998, and that was with eight jumping passes.
Maybe Rachael is the first!
I agree, Mirai is very athletic. You can tell from her speed and jumps and the way her body is built. She does have pretty spirals and is bendy like Caroline, Alissa, and Sasha, but she is different from those skaters because she has so many other qualities.
I don't think even Mao is in Yuna's league at this point. I mean, Mao with three ratified 3a in her programs could maybe beat Yuna, but the fact is that the chances of Mao landing three clean 3a are slim, and if she can beat Yuna just because she can do one really difficult jump, I think that goes to show that Yuna is a better skater, and Mao just has a technical edge over her because of that one jump.
Doesn't Yuna have an edge over everyone because of her well-executed 3-3's? I mean she does the best and most consistent 3-3's right? Not saying who's better but I feel Yuna is the one who has the technical edge over everyone. I am not an expert but I feel 3A and 3-3 are equally difficult? I think one reason Mao doesn't do them anymore is because she may not have the stamina to do both of them in a program. On an another note, I also enjoyed Flatt's SP far more than her LP.
A 3Lz-3T (which is what Yuna does) has a base point value of 10 while a triple axel as a base value of 8.2.
Yuna, yes does have the edge, because her 3-3 is the most difficult and she lands it pretty consistently.
... land all those jumps and actually get high off the ground--especially if they are skating to dinosaur music. :chorus:
I also would not group Tara with the 'athletes'-- she never skated to 'dinosaur' music and also had alot of charisma/sass/charm on the ice.
She is a highly motivated skater who has very good jump technique. That's it. She is not the total package. Could she be? I don't know. I do know that I consider her skating a refrigerator break and completely forgettable. Mirai Nagasu, Yu Na and Mao can skate circles around her. So can Ashley when she is on. I don't like saying this but it makes me angry to see a skater just throw away an integral part of skating in an effort to rack up the points. Makes me think of Trixi Schuba and the figures.
Ok, I thought Poodlepal's "dinosaur music" referred to Tonya's Jurassic Park program -- or did the phrase simply mean hackneyed old standards? I can actually see the sentence making sense either way. Poodle?
As for Rachael beating Yu Na in the long program--well, she did! Hopefully, Yu Na and her fans can accept it by now! And had Rachael not fallen in the short, maybe she would have won, or it would have been a closer loss.
I know you agreed with me.
I just thought it's an amazing feat what Rachael did, and there are people who kept on saying she's not pushing any technical boundaries, not athletic, etc...
A 7 triples program is a lot harder than a 6 triples program because the last triple means the skater must have a full set of triples (minus the 3A) + executed the other 6 cleanly + the fatigue factor after the 6 triples. The 7th triple is not an indepedent event. I think there should be an added bonus for a 6th triple, and even a bigger bonus for a 7th triple.
Kim Yuna had the worst skate of her career and still beat Rachael in SA.
Yu-na is not total package either. She does have beautiful 3-3 but she will not be able to execute all triples and she has to rely on 3 double axels program to keep points up.
Kim Yuna had the worst skate of her career and still beat Rachael in SA.
It doesn't matter that Yu-Na lacks a 3Loop...the base value for the jumps in her program is still the highest out of any lady competitor. Her GOE's on the jumps are the highest too. Yu-Na is definitely the complete package.
Kim Yuna also had the best SP of her career at SA.
Rachael had mistakes in the short, mistakes in the long.
If Kim skated like she did at the GPF, Rachael would beat her.
Kim Yuna also had the best SP of her career at SA.
Rachael had mistakes in the short, mistakes in the long.
If Kim skated like she did at the GPF, Rachael would beat her.
Kim Yuna also had the best SP of her career at SA.
Rachael had mistakes in the short, mistakes in the long.
If Kim skated like she did at the GPF, Rachael would beat her.