I think he is good everywhere, since he has 4 World titles and 1 Oly gold.
Very very good, but not better.
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I think he is good everywhere, since he has 4 World titles and 1 Oly gold.
Plush won silver under the COP at Vancouver, and gold in last year on ECH. Do you remember ? You talked about a skater, who retired 11 years ago, when Plush was only 19.No, what Jammers is saying is that Yagudin was an all-rounded skater, which the CoP system rewards. So theoretically, had he skated in CoP he would have done well because he had no major weaknesses.
When did I say I have zero interest in it? I've said before that I hope he recovers for the Sochi Olympics. Just because I'm not gushing over him doesn't mean I'm not interested in seeing the guy do well. The comment I was going to make is of course Mishin will say the surgery went well, even if it didn't, so we should take it with a grain of salt.
Yagudin's skills were made for COP i think. He didn't have a major weakness.
It's impossible to say how Yagudin would have fared under the IJS. When he retired, he was more polished than Plushenko, but in terms of IJS-relevant skills, I don't know. We don't know how he would have dealt with the spin variations, the step sequence requirements, if he'd have been able to incorporate more difficulty into the linking movements in his programs and have the same consistency on the jumps while doing more difficult entries. We just don't know. It's pointless to speculate.No, what Jammers is saying is that Yagudin was an all-rounded skater, which the CoP system rewards. So theoretically, had he skated in CoP he would have done well because he had no major weaknesses.
Plush won silver under the COP at Vancouver, and gold in last year on ECH. Do you remember ? You talked about a skater, who retired 11 years ago, when Plush was only 19.![]()
Wasn't Cop applied in 2003-2004 for the Gps? So this is its tenth season now. So under Cop Plush has won gps, gpf, 4 out of his 7 European golds, 2 out of his 3 Olympic medals.
I would say he adjusted pretty well.
He lost to Sandhu basically cause he did a 3rd combo there instead of two. That was 9 years ago.
His not doing a 3 jump combo was a risk he took because he was the only one doing quad triples so people left out quads he left out 3 jump combos. Now he does 3 jump combo but not really quad combos.
No, what Jammers is saying is that Yagudin was an all-rounded skater, which the CoP system rewards. So theoretically, had he skated in CoP he would have done well because he had no major weaknesses.
I agree, Yagudin was a 6.0 skater and that's why he was so successful, he did what he had to do. Obviously it doesn't mean he wasn't a great skater, Takahashi's Chan's, Hanyu's programs will probably look silly too in the future.![]()
I agree, Yagudin was a 6.0 skater and that's why he was so successful, he did what he had to do. Obviously it doesn't mean he wasn't a great skater, Takahashi's Chan's, Hanyu's programs will probably look silly too in the future.![]()
6.0 skaters did what they had to do to succeed in that period; we can't say for sure how they would have fared under the IJS (early or current version). We've seen skaters make the transition with varying levels of success: Takahashi and Kostner started out in the old system, but their skating works well with the current one, while Joubert made some adjustments and has been quite successful, but probably would have done better under the old system. KvdP remained a 6.0 skater at heart, as did Johnny Weir. Kwan I wouldn't count, since she only skated once under the IJS.Of course. But le'ts not pretend that all his skills (like spins, footwork) transceded the 6.0 system .
The same goes for MIchelle Kwan![]()