Jason Brown

[el henry]

I can't believe two GPs for Jason. Yaassss

Here is my completely unbidden thought .... wouldn't SA and NHK be great stops for a farewell tour.

 

[sworddance21]

I'm surprised to see Jason and Ilia assigned to the same 2 events.

 

[noskates]

Just my opinion but I think they're assigned to the same 2 events so that Ilia doesn't knock out Andrew or Jacob in the point aggregate for potential GPF. Jason is the sacrificial lamb. It would seem that Jason has indicated he would skate the GPs this season or they wouldn't have put him in that position. This season is beginning to sound like a soap opera with all the switching around with partners in ice and pairs and what I think are kind of strange GP assignments. My hope is that Jason comes in like gangbusters with 2 new and totally Jason-like programs. Would like to forget last years FS and music that only made sense to him.

 

[NanaPat]

Just my opinion but I think they're assigned to the same 2 events so that Ilia doesn't knock out Andrew or Jacob in the point aggregate for potential GPF. Jason is the sacrificial lamb. It would seem that Jason has indicated he would skate the GPs this season or they wouldn't have put him in that position. This season is beginning to sound like a soap opera with all the switching around with partners in ice and pairs and what I think are kind of strange GP assignments. My hope is that Jason comes in like gangbusters with 2 new and totally Jason-like programs. Would like to forget last years FS and music that only made sense to him.

Remember that on paper, USFS only controls Skate America entries. The other hosts decide who they want for their events. Of course, USFS may have asked another federation to take Malinin/Brown. Or they could have told them "Malinin will pick you if you also agree to take Brown".

USFS could well have chosen Jason because he is a fan favorite and they hope he can drive ticket sales.

 

[cc07]

I'm cautiously excited. Obviously if Jason had no intention at all of doing the GPs, he would have taken his name out of the hat like Bock and KamO. There's a chance he could still pull out, but I hope not.

I saw an Instagram post Jason was tagged in back before SOI US started where someone who trains in Chicago was saying it was so cool to watch Jason and Rohene cook up new things, so I feel like we have new material in the works. Also saw somewhere that he skated to You Raise Me Up at Japan's SOI, but I haven't seen any recordings of that, just someone saying that was his music for one of his solos.

A couple years back he did a short choreo to Sevdaliza's Human that I would LOVE to see a full version of, and have been hoping that it would be an SP announcement the last few years. Maybe this year? Will we finally get Jason Brown skating to the music of Jason Robert Brown? I guess we'll find out soon enough!

 

[Bookseller]

Will he or won't he? That is the question for both Ilia and Jason. I actually like the two assignments. He could skate a totally Jason program and do fine. No pressure! We'll see!

 

[katmari]

If Jason's goal is to compete at US Nationals he doesn't get an automatic bye this year like usual because he doesn't meet the criteria (see below). He will need to earn a bye by competing at fall competitions. That's why I wasn't completely shocked at seeing his name on the GP list. I'm delighted to to have the opportunity to see him skate another year. (It's also World Team Trophy year and we know how much he loves that competition!)

ADVANCEMENT TO THE U.S. FIGURE SKATING CHAMPIONSHIPS AND U.S. DEVELOPMENT TEAM CHAMPIONSHIPS SENIOR EVENTS
Athletes/teams that meet any of the following criteria will earn a bye:
1) Athletes/teams who placed in the top 5 in the same event at the previous U.S. Figure Skating Championships. See Rules 2501 (B) (1), 2502 (B) (1), 2503 (B) (1).
2) Athletes/teams selected to the U.S. Figure Skating World Team in the previous season in the same event (not including alternates). See Rules 2501 (B) (2), 2502 (B) (2), 2503 (B) (2).
3) Athletes who have won a medal in the same event at any Olympic Winter Games (not including the Team Event). See Rules 2501 (B) (3), 2502 (B) (3), 2503 (B) (3).
4) Athletes who qualify for the same event at the ISU Grand Prix of Figure Skating Final or the ISU Junior Grand Prix of Figure Skating Final (not including alternates). See Rules 2501 (B) (4), 2502 (B) (4), 2503 (B) (4).
a. Example: an athlete that qualifies for the JGP Final in men will earn a bye to the U.S. Figure Skating Championships in the Senior Men’s event if they registered at the senior level domestically.
5) Athletes who receive a fully funded assignment to three (3) international competitions at the senior level in the same event. Athletes must compete at their international assignment in order to maintain this bye.
6) Athletes who receive a fully funded assignment to an international competition in the two weeks before or after the athletes respective NQS Final. Athletes must compete at their international assignment in order to maintain this bye.

Source: 2027 USFS Bye and Advancement Criteria

 

[Kevin Uxbridge]

If Jason's goal is to compete at US Nationals he doesn't get an automatic bye this year like usual because he doesn't meet the criteria (see below). He will need to earn a bye by competing at fall competitions. That's why I wasn't completely shocked at seeing his name on the GP list. I'm delighted to to have the opportunity to see him skate another year. (It's also World Team Trophy year and we know how much he loves that competition!)

Source: 2027 USFS Bye and Advancement Criteria

He satisfies the 2nd clause:

2) Athletes/teams selected to the U.S. Figure Skating World Team in the previous season in the same event (not including alternates). See Rules 2501 (B) (2), 2502 (B) (2), 2503 (B) (2).

Though he didn't compete at Worlds, he was selected. So, he passes the 2nd clause as presented in the referenced bye criteria document (but I didn't dive into the underlying rules that are referenced to see if they contradict what is written).

So, he should be able to go to Nats without slumming it at a Challenger or Sr. B (though doing one as a warm up is probably a good idea).

 

[katmari]

He satisfies the 2nd clause:

Though he didn't compete at Worlds, he was selected. So, he passes the 2nd clause as presented in the referenced bye criteria document (but I didn't dive into the underlying rules that are referenced to see if they contradict what is written).

He was selected to the team but, when he declined, his status was changed to alternate and the criteria states (not including alternates).

It's certainly possible the USFS will decide he meets the bye criteria based on his initial selection.

 

[Kevin Uxbridge]

He was selected to the team but, when he declined, his status was changed to alternate and the criteria states (not including alternates).

USFS vagueness strikes again. Why wouldn't they just say "Competed at World Championship" and leave it at that.

 

[ice coverage]

He satisfies the 2nd clause:

Though he didn't compete at Worlds, he was selected. So, he passes the 2nd clause as presented in the referenced bye criteria document (but I didn't dive into the underlying rules that are referenced to see if they contradict what is written). ...

Yes, I agree that per the criteria written by USFS, Jason already has an automatic bye to 2027 Nats on the basis of his selection to 2026 World team (regardless of his eventual withdrawal) -- assuming that USFS is viewing him the same way as it viewed Hawayek/Baker just a few seasons ago.

H/B were on the original USFS list of 2024 Nats entries (as of late Nov 2023); they had a bye to 2024 Nats because USFS had selected them for 2023 World team (although they later withdrew from Worlds). H/B otherwise would not have qualified for 2024 Nats -- they were not eligible for any other type of bye: they did not compete at 2023 Nats, and they withdrew from their 2023-24 GP assignments.
(Ultimately, they ended up withdrawing from 2024 Nats.)

 

[noskates]

Whatever the reason or speculation is, I don't think he would have been assigned unless he agreed to participate. And that's a good thing.

 

[Bookseller]

If Jason's goal is to compete at US Nationals he doesn't get an automatic bye this year like usual because he doesn't meet the criteria (see below). He will need to earn a bye by competing at fall competitions. That's why I wasn't completely shocked at seeing his name on the GP list. I'm delighted to to have the opportunity to see him skate another year. (It's also World Team Trophy year and we know how much he loves that competition!)



Source: 2027 USFS Bye and Advancement Criteria

That occurred to me before this. If his Bye was to be based on last year's results, I'm not sure he had one. But I'm not sure he didn't. But I'm sure that all things falling into place, Jason wants to do Nats this year and if he decides to leave competition afterward, it will be on a high note and not last year's Nats. I don't know how he feels about 2027 World's. It occurred to me that Japan might assign Shoma and Marin to NHK if they are ready. I think Jason would love to see Shoma in his new role! If he does actually do this season, I hope Jason has his best NHK performance ever! Just a really great performance that wows the audience!