Jason Brown

[olivelover]

I will too. Speedy recovery, Jason!

 

[Tavi...]

For those of you, like me, who are really missing Jason on the ice:

https://instagram.com/p/BAiiDnKzXNu/

 

[el henry]

For those of you, like me, who are really missing Jason on the ice:

https://instagram.com/p/BAiiDnKzXNu/

When I saw this, I came straightaway to see if someone had posted. Baby Jason again Thanks.

And again showing such positivity in the context of the tweet.

 

[karne]

For those of you, like me, who are really missing Jason on the ice:

https://instagram.com/p/BAiiDnKzXNu/

alkerjban;laejn;lajer;lhjal;jn;laernja;lenrj

OVERLOADED WITH CUTENESS OMG

 

[Tavi...]

This is already posted on the first page, but I thought maybe y'all would enjoy rewatching it as much as I did.

Jason as choreographed by Garrett Kling:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_9PkQ4wymy4

I love that slide on the ice! And I dare anyone watching it to say Jason isn't musical.

Here are a couple of interviews with Garrett in which he briefly discusses working with Jason:

http://auntjoycesicecreamstand.blogspot.com/2012/05/interview-with-garrett-kling.html?m=1

http://web.icenetwork.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20120607&content_id=32925086&vkey=ice_news

For those who don't know, Aunt Joyce is Dave Lease.

 

[Li'Kitsu]

For those of you, like me, who are really missing Jason on the ice:

https://instagram.com/p/BAiiDnKzXNu/

Aaaaawwwwwwww.... and he's recognizable thanks to his hair already. Boy always had style


Also, I'm sorry but I just have to say I smiled like a stupid llama when Jason favored my wishing-you-well-tweet one of these last days... it is so lovely of him to do that for his fans and show his appreciation that way. I felt pretty stupid about how happy it made me, my twitter existence has a meaning! #fanrantover

 

[balletanddancefan]

This is already posted on the first page, but I thought maybe y'all would enjoy rewatching it as much as I did.

Jason as choreographed by Garrett Kling:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_9PkQ4wymy4

I love that slide on the ice! And I dare anyone watching it to say Jason isn't musical.

Here are a couple of interviews with Garrett in which he briefly discusses working with Jason:

http://auntjoycesicecreamstand.blogspot.com/2012/05/interview-with-garrett-kling.html?m=1

http://web.icenetwork.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20120607&content_id=32925086&vkey=ice_news

For those who don't know, Aunt Joyce is Dave Lease.

NICE! like a modern dancer! With nice light brown hair!

 

[Tavi...]

In this article, Rohene says the quad "was the element that led to Jason's hurting his back."

I wonder if he was supposed to say that.

http://www.twincities.com/sports/ci_29405130/u-s-figure-skating-rohene-ward-finds-choreography

 

[el henry]

In this article, Rohene says the quad "was the element that led to Jason's hurting his back."

I wonder if he was supposed to say that.

http://www.twincities.com/sports/ci_29405130/u-s-figure-skating-rohene-ward-finds-choreography

I saw that as well, Tavi. Given some of the other quotes, I think Rohene says what he wants to say. good for him.

And tangentially related to Jason, did anyone else see in TSL's practice tweets that Mariah had dyed her hair darker? I'm not even going to try to link. But if she did, that is venturing a little into, well, maybe kinda icky land?

 

[Tavi...]

I saw that as well, Tavi. Given some of the other quotes, I think Rohene says what he wants to say. good for him.

And tangentially related to Jason, did anyone else see in TSL's practice tweets that Mariah had dyed her hair darker? I'm not even going to try to link. But if she did, that is venturing a little into, well, maybe kinda icky land?

Why icky? Rohene probably wanted her to do it!

 

[el henry]

Why icky? Rohene probably wanted her to do it!

And we all know what happens with what Rohene wants I actually was thinking of Rohene, like why does everyone in his orbit need to have dark hair? I know, the dramatic impact. But doesn't he know that all skater ladies need to be bottle blondes?

 

[karne]

In this article, Rohene says the quad "was the element that led to Jason's hurting his back."

I wonder if he was supposed to say that.

http://www.twincities.com/sports/ci_29405130/u-s-figure-skating-rohene-ward-finds-choreography

I know that Rohene has been an integral part of Team Jason for many years and that Jason obviously trusts and adores him, and I have loved much of the work Rohene has done for him. But this does not sit right with me at all. It is still Jason's body and Jason's injury, and Jason made it clear during the teleconference that he did not want to assign blame to a particular element. No matter how close they are, no matter how important a part Rohene is of Team Jason, it does not sit well with me that Rohene has contravened Jason's clear expression of neutrality in the public domain.

 

[Li'Kitsu]

^ I really dislike that part too.

I don't think I read a lot of Ward interviews so far, so this is probably only news for me, but... I don't like the tone of that whole interview. If the skaters chose music he doesn't like, he tells them 'go to another coach'? That sounds so self-centered He's getting payed to do the choreo for skaters, so I don't see at all why a skater shouldn't be able to chose the music they want.

And the part that I thought would annoy me, the one about Yuzu, is one I don't care about at all. I'm just happy Jason is too well liked between Yuzu fans to let that bit him in the end.

 

[karne]

I don't think I read a lot of Ward interviews so far, so this is probably only news for me, but... I don't like the tone of that whole interview. If the skaters chose music he doesn't like, he tells them 'go to another coach'? That sounds so self-centered He's getting payed to do the choreo for skaters, so I don't see at all why a skater shouldn't be able to chose the music they want.

I wonder...if Max had gone to him with Nessun Dorma and the Black Swan in hand, would Rohene have told him no, though it was Max's heart's desire to skate to that music?

I enjoy the instrumental version of Roxanne. I love it so much, it's actually my current program music. My coach lets me choose. She knows we'll get better results that way.

To be honest...and I've held back saying this for some time...I wonder...I wonder if it's going a little...too far. That Rohene now sees Jason no longer as just a muse, but as an extension of himself, thereby winning that...redemption...for his own shortcomings as a competitor. I hope other Jason fans know what I am saying, I still love much of the work Rohene has done for Jason, but, lately...with the hair dye, the costuming, some of the choreography...I hope you all understand what I mean, because I don't know particularly clearly, myself.

 

[Maria Victoria]

And the part that I thought would annoy me, the one about Yuzu, is one I don't care about at all. I'm just happy Jason is too well liked between Yuzu fans to let that bit him in the end.

:yes: Yuzuru - Jason fan here. I certainly don't take the opinion of his choreographer about Yuzuru against Jason who finds Yuzuru "amazing." Nor do I take it against Rohene himself as he is entitled to his opinion. I don't think it is a personal attack but just the way Rohene sees it. Of course Yuzuru can still make him change his mind.

 

[dorispulaski]

I can see the other side. If I absolutely hated a song, I doubt I could create a top notch piece of choreography to it. The most honest thing to do, I think, as a choreographer, would be to tell the prospective customer they would get a better program to that particular music from another choreographer. that I couldn't do it.

One can coach kids without having to create.the choreography for every single one.

 

[Li'Kitsu]

I wonder...if Max had gone to him with Nessun Dorma and the Black Swan in hand, would Rohene have told him no, though it was Max's heart's desire to skate to that music?

I enjoy the instrumental version of Roxanne. I love it so much, it's actually my current program music. My coach lets me choose. She knows we'll get better results that way.

To be honest...and I've held back saying this for some time...I wonder...I wonder if it's going a little...too far. That Rohene now sees Jason no longer as just a muse, but as an extension of himself, thereby winning that...redemption...for his own shortcomings as a competitor. I hope other Jason fans know what I am saying, I still love much of the work Rohene has done for Jason, but, lately...with the hair dye, the costuming, some of the choreography...I hope you all understand what I mean, because I don't know particularly clearly, myself.

I'm also of the impression that letting a skater choose to skate to something they are really passionate about can only be beneficial (and :thumbsup: for your choice of program music!). Max is a good example for that, even though when he announced those music choices I was skeptical too.

I guess I get what you mean. As said before I don't know enough about Rohene or read enough interviews to really have an impression of him... I can just go by this one interview, and it's seems like his work is at least as much about him as it is about the skaters. And that's not really how it should be, since I think first and foremost the choreographer should be there to react to the skaters needs and make that their top priority. But I generally trust in Kori and Jason, so I'm a bit... undecided what to think about this, I guess.


And Maria, you're right it's definitely no personal attack. I have to say though it sounds like the typical politicking-for-my-own-skater thing (I mean the part that Jason with a quad would be competitive with Yuzu... not that thing about artist or not. That's his opinion he is free to have no matter anyway ).

 

[TMC]

:yes: Yuzuru - Jason fan here. I certainly don't take the opinion of his choreographer about Yuzuru against Jason who finds Yuzuru "amazing." Nor do I take it against Rohene himself as he is entitled to his opinion. I don't think it is a personal attack but just the way Rohene sees it. Of course Yuzuru can still make him change his mind.

Thank you for writing this. I don't like the quote, and I don't like that Rohene thought it was a good idea to say those things. But I feel the same as he does about Yuzuru: I can see that he is nearly perfect, and I enjoy watching him skate and perform, but I just haven't "got" him yet. I may think "that was great", but I don't generally rewatch Yuzu's skates more than once. Same with Patrick Chan, with the exception that I do rewatch his skates a bit more often, but then only because I enjoy his blade work. Neither touches me or makes me feel things. Yet I know they do touch other people, and can understand that. Still, he definitely has the potential to wow me at some point, can't deny that! To each their own.

BUT I would never say that "he's not an artist" in an interview! Heck, I wouldn't even write it on a skating forum - partly because it's just my feeling and stating it is not going to do anybody any good! On the contrary it's likely to make people feel bad/ruffle feathers/cause arguments. (This is an exception because I believe people reading this thread understand where I'm coming from.) Again, to each their own, but it's not always necessary to make "your own" known to everybody.

I can see the other side. If I absolutely hated a song, I doubt I could create a top notch piece of choreography to it. The most honest thing to do, I think, as a choreographer, would be to tell the prospective customer they would get a better program to that particular music from another choreographer. that I couldn't do it.

One can coach kids without having to create.the choreography for every single one.

I definitely agree with you here. In fact, I think it's very good that he knows what he likes, knows what he's capable of, and - most importatly - recognises when he ought to step aside and let someone else do the work. It's good to be able to say "no" when you feel like the end result would not reflect the best of your abilities. I see nothing wrong with the sentiment, but again, perhaps it could have been formulated a bit differently...

 

[Tavi...]

So, I agree that Rohene shouldn't have mentioned the source of Jason's injury since Jason and the entire team have been silent on the matter.

On the other hand, I completely disagree that Rohene was being a diva in saying that if he doesn't like the piece of music a skater brings in to him, he tells them to find another choreographer. I don't know how many of you are involved in the arts, but the creative process works in mysterious ways. If something doesn't inspire you, try as you might what you end up producing may be garbage. As a young singer I was frequently told that certain roles were "perfect" for me because of the way I looked, but I could not relate to them at all. For one very important audition I was convinced to sing an aria from one of these roles, with the predictable result that I did not sing or audition well.

One of the posters on FSU commented that Rohene should work with music he doesn't like because an artist should stretch himself. However unless it's the artist himself who feels inspired and challenged to stretch himself towards something he's not sure he's capable of reaching, that usually doesn't work. So frankly, if the skater is absolutely intent on using a piece of music that Rohene can't stand, I think he's actually doing the skater a service by suggesting he choose another choreographer. It would be far less honest to take the skater's money and produce an inferior program.

Karne, as regards Max, he clearly found the right choreographer for his programs this year, so why speculate on what Rohene might have done?

And as to Rohene turning Jason into mini-Rohene, I'm not sure I agree. I cannot see Rohene performing Juke, T&I, or this year's Gatsby short. I could see him performing this year's long, but it's also a beautiful program that is perfect for Jason. So perhaps it's accurate to say that Jason and Rohene share some similarities as performers. And clearly, Jason has been inspired by Rohene's flexibility and technical prowess.

As to Jason's hair and costume for the FS, well remember what Kori said about letting Rohene have a vision and how he is on the far side of the spectrum with costuming. I really do see that at work in the FS - and honestly I understand why he wants the contrast of darker hair with the black costume. For me the glitter on the costume is a bit much, but Jason is playing a female character, so perhaps it's appropriate.

 

[TMC]

So frankly, if the skater is absolutely intent on using a piece of music that Rohene can't stand, I think he's actually doing the skater a service by suggesting he choose another choreographer. It would be far less honest to take the skater's money and produce an inferior program.

Exactly.