Jason Brown

[el henry]

So happy for you. :hap36:

None of the shows are coming close enough to me to not require an overnight stay in a hotel. I'm hoping one of the performances will be taped and broadcast on TV.

Today is the 7K send-off. I hope some of our Jason fans are able to attend and share their experience.

I sure hope we get reports from 7K too

And I can’t say that Allentown is worth an overnight trip, but if I wasn’t willing to drive four miles to the box office to scope out the best tickets, I should retire my Jason fan fest membership

 

[Tavi...]

Okay, my phone just ate my 7K post (grrr!), so this one will be brief and just focus on Jason - feel free to ask questions about everyone else.

Rosa74 and I met in Monument and went to the sendoff. It was super crowded, and Jason did Hamilton. I wish I could report he was perfectly clean, but he wasn’t. To get the bad news out of the way: he messed up 2 of his 3 jumping passes. Specifically, he fell on the 3A and doubled the plannned 3Z. Boo! I think maybe he was tired - even though he gave a good performance, it wasn’t as sparkling and energetic as we saw it at Skate Canada or the GPF. That’s probably a good thing - he needs to save that for competition- but I must admit the jump errors were a bit disconcerting so close to Nats.

The good news: there’s actually a lot of it! First, the program has grown so much since I first saw it in Milwaukee - it totally works now, even with the errors. Second, the jump errors were kind of unexpected and inexplicable. He didn’t seem at all like he was struggling with nerves or with his technique. I felt calm watching him; I wasn’t cringing, expecting him to fall. He did two huge, gorgeous, easy 3As in the warmup, and even the one he fell on looked fully rotated with good air position. The 3F-3T looked very good - rotated and no funky turnout/ over rotation. Not sure what happened with the Lutz (brain fart or too close to boards?) but after the program, he came right back out and did a beautiful tano 3Z. Third, overall his skating looks as beautiful as I’ve ever seen it - beautiful edges and flow, good speed, and except for the two he messed up, lovely jumps.

How will he skate at Nats? I don’t know. But I don’t think he’s in the same nervy place he was at NHK or even the GPF. As we left, he was patiently signing autographs for a long line of people!

Random thought: there is a roughly two block stretch of road near downtown Monument lined with tallish evergreen trees. All of them have been strung thickly with garlands of colored lights. It’s so pretty, and quite extraordinary to drive through at night - like fairyland or the Milky Way!

 

[Mrs. P]

Thank you for the report! Too bad about the jump mistakes, but I'd imagine that he is training full blast leading up to Nationals and I wouldn't be surprised if perhaps there was a bit of fatigue (I wouldn't be surprised if he had run through that program once or even a few times earlier in the day). Glad to hear the Hamilton program is coming along nicely, I'm looking forward to seeing it live in less than a week (!).

Anyway, this is just me, but I've decided to just watch everything happen and accept the results where they end up. I plan to enjoy watching Jason's performances and hope for the best. I will obviously be disappointed for him if he doesn't get on that Olympic team, but I think with so much competition for those men's spots, there's no point of thinking too hard about it (not to mention that I been SLAMMED at work and home and I won't even have time to think about U.S. Nationals until I get on a plane on Thursday).

 

[Tavi...]

Thank you for the report! Too bad about the jump mistakes, but I'd imagine that he is training full blast leading up to Nationals and I wouldn't be surprised if perhaps there was a bit of fatigue (I wouldn't be surprised if he had run through that program once or even a few times earlier in the day). Glad to hear the Hamilton program is coming along nicely, I'm looking forward to seeing it live in less than a week (!).

Anyway, this is just me, but I've decided to just watch everything happen and accept the results where they end up. I plan to enjoy watching Jason's performances and hope for the best. I will obviously be disappointed for him if he doesn't get on that Olympic team, but I think with so much competition for those men's spots, there's no point of thinking too hard about it (not to mention that I been SLAMMED at work and home and I won't even have time to think about U.S. Nationals until I get on a plane on Thursday).

Sorry to hear you’re so slammed at work, but it’s great that you’re going! And I think your attitude - enjoy it and don’t focus on the results - is really the best one, given the level of competition and reports that everyone is training really well and doing clean programs. We’ll just have to wait and see what happens.

 

[Arriba627]

Don't think this has been posted yet. Jason's parents getting super emotional giving their recollections of the 2014 Nats and Olympics.
https://www.nbcchicago.com/news/loc...Unexpected-Journey-to-Olympics-467165943.html

 

[Ross74]

Don't think this has been posted yet. Jason's parents getting super emotional giving their recollections of the 2014 Nats and Olympics.
https://www.nbcchicago.com/news/loc...Unexpected-Journey-to-Olympics-467165943.html

Thanks, nice article! Love the part about getting a pencil at the gas station after winning a comp.

Also love this:

He is skating to music from the “Hamilton” soundtrack, a move that creator Lin-Manuel Miranda approves.

“I saw his ‘Room Where It Happens’ routine and it was incredible. I’m rooting for Jason,” Miranda told NBC Chicago.

WooHoo!

 

[Tavi...]

Jason says run throughs are going great - hmm, guess we’ll ignore last night!

https://twitter.com/lynnrutherford/status/946904339477684224

Oh no, they changed the order of the elements again. Fingers crossed! On bright side, he has a new FS costume.

https://twitter.com/lynnrutherford/status/946905318918934530

 

[Mrs. P]

I'm interested in the elements in different order part. I'm curious which elements and what order. And of course about the new free costume.

 

[LRK]

Thank you for the report! Too bad about the jump mistakes, but I'd imagine that he is training full blast leading up to Nationals and I wouldn't be surprised if perhaps there was a bit of fatigue (I wouldn't be surprised if he had run through that program once or even a few times earlier in the day). Glad to hear the Hamilton program is coming along nicely, I'm looking forward to seeing it live in less than a week (!).

Anyway, this is just me, but I've decided to just watch everything happen and accept the results where they end up. I plan to enjoy watching Jason's performances and hope for the best. I will obviously be disappointed for him if he doesn't get on that Olympic team, but I think with so much competition for those men's spots, there's no point of thinking too hard about it (not to mention that I been SLAMMED at work and home and I won't even have time to think about U.S. Nationals until I get on a plane on Thursday).

This is where I am at - or trying to be. I'm thinking to myself that I will just wish for a beautiful performance of that magical LP, and not have any expectations or demands of anything more. But - inured as I have become to disappointment this season - dampen my hopes as much as I may, I know I'll be gutted if he doesn't make it. I'm starting to feel nervous now, as your words about "less than a week" makes me realise that - yes, this is actually happening.

Anyway, good luck to Jason - and I hope you have a great time watching the competition, Mrs P!

 

[Tavi...]

I'm interested in the elements in different order part. I'm curious which elements and what order. And of course about the new free costume.

I’m of course interested in the new costume! But as to the elements, which ones hasn’t he already changed at least once this year?

Seriously, I love the 3z-1l-3S where it was placed initially and I hope they go back to it. And I admit I’m curious about the rest of it, too - I just hope they took the decision weeks ago, so he’s consistent with the new layout!

 

[el henry]

Thanks so much for the report @Tavi, and lets hope that Jason got those falls:roll9: out of his system.

Thanks also @Arriba627 for the link to the Chicago station interview and story (which had different info in each, interesting that the written story didn't just repeat the interview). Of course, I love Baby Jason photos, but did anyone notice in the photo collection a "staged" photo of young Jason with a young girl? She looks too short to be his sister, and I am wondering if it was his pairs partner. It may have circulated before, but I don't remember it, and of course, they are so adorable. :luv17:

 

[Arriba627]

Thanks so much for the report @Tavi, and lets hope that Jason got those falls:roll9: out of his system.

Thanks also @Arriba627 for the link to the Chicago station interview and story (which had different info in each, interesting that the written story didn't just repeat the interview). Of course, I love Baby Jason photos, but did anyone notice in the photo collection a "staged" photo of young Jason with a young girl? She looks too short to be his sister, and I am wondering if it was his pairs partner. It may have circulated before, but I don't remember it, and of course, they are so adorable. :luv17:

True confessions -- after hearing Jason's mom and dad talk about 2014, I had to watch the Nats Riverdance again for the 501st time!!!!

 

[el henry]

Oh, and yes, @Tavi and @Rosa74, if you have any thoughts from the sendoff on Jordan or Ben J., maybe you could share them? (Yes, it’s Jason’s thread, but we his rinkmates too

 

[Tavi...]

Jordan: I really like him, so I was surprised that he didn’t leave much of an impression on me here. Like Jason, he seemed tired, and that’s probably why. He did his SP and started with what looked like a pretty good quad. I think 4S, but don’t quote me. I think he did a good 3A also. I would say everything looked pretty good, but a bit low energy / slow / labored. Im sure his energy/performance level will improve in competition, so the fact that he was clean here is a good sign. Maybe Rosa74 will add her thoughts.

Ben: I think he’s improved! He’s skating to Sounds of Silence (I think the version Elladj used last season?). He wasn’t clean - he had one and possibly two falls - but I think the combo was clean. His movement in the stsq and in between stuff was pleasing, and he has pretty good flexibility in his spins. I think as compared to last year, his movement seems softer and has better flow. I liked the choreo.

 

[Ross74]

Oh, and yes, @Tavi and @Rosa74, if you have any thoughts from the sendoff on Jordan or Ben J., maybe you could share them? (Yes, it’s Jason’s thread, but we his rinkmates too

First off, I've always liked Ben and think he's pretty hunky. He skated that program much better at Regionals in October, though. He really made an impression on me there. Nobody seemed "on" in Monument the other night. I've been impressed earlier this year by Jordan's short, but it almost didn't seem like the same program the other night. I think it was at the Broadmoor Open that his choreography jumped out at me. Maybe the fact that it's not a competition takes something away from it for the skaters. But it was still fun being there, and I enjoyed the company!

 

[Tavi...]

Okay. I’m pondering Jason’s reported change in the order of elements to better go with the music.

First, here is his Skate Canada FS first day practice (10/26?), courtesy of a long-time member of the Jason FF:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=x9kW94w6O04&feature=youtu.be

It was really good, with 3-5 layout, a super easy 4T; the only obvious flaw was a not so great 3lo with a hand down. One thing I really liked was that his movements overall, and especially his arm and shoulder movements, were cleaner and more precise than I think Ive seen them since. Two days later, he did the same FS layout, but with errors, lost about 17 points (!) in combined BV/GOE/penalty. He still scored 170.

Here are his various layouts. I wish he’d stay with the Canada one!

Italy: 3F. 3A spin 2A Stsq || 3A+3T spin 3z-1lo-3s< Chsq 3Lo 3z-2t 2A spin
SC: 4T< fall 3A< spin 3F Stsq || 3A-3T spin 3z-1l-3s Chsq 3Lo 3Z-2T 2A spin.
NHK: 3F 3A (fall) spin 2A Stsq || 3A<+REP fall spin 3Z 3lo-1lo-3s Chsq 3z-3T 2A spin
GPF: 3A 3A<+REP fall spin 3F Stsq || 2A+3t spin 3z+2t Chsq 3Lo 3z-1lo-2s 2A spin

Sorry I tried and failed to line these up!

 

[chillgil]

just wanted to drop by jason's ff to wish some good luck to him and everyone here for USnats! Jason's my favorite US skater, and definitely in my top 3 favorite skaters of all time list. you know a skater is really special when just the video of their RT leaves you absolutely breathless
good f**king luck to one of the most beautiful skaters of all time; that program really deserves to shine on the olympic stage

 

[dorispulaski]

I do wonder what is up with his 3Lo? Perhaps the entry needs a change.

But I love that full run through practice clip thank you, @Tavi...

 

[YesWay]

Italy: 3F. 3A spin 2A Stsq || 3A+3T spin 3z-1lo-3s< Chsq 3Lo 3z-2t 2A spin
SC: 4T< fall 3A< spin 3F Stsq || 3A-3T spin 3z-1l-3s Chsq 3Lo 3Z-2T 2A spin.
NHK: 3F 3A (fall) spin 2A Stsq || 3A<+REP fall spin 3Z 3lo-1lo-3s Chsq 3z-3T 2A spin
GPF: 3A 3A<+REP fall spin 3F Stsq || 2A+3t spin 3z+2t Chsq 3Lo 3z-1lo-2s 2A spin

Sorry I tried and failed to line these up!

Does this work?

Italy: 3F.      3A           spin 2A Stsq || 3A+3T        spin 3z-1lo-3s<  Chsq       3Lo  3z-2t     2A spin
SC:    4T< fall 3A<          spin 3F Stsq || 3A-3T        spin 3z-1l-3s    Chsq       3Lo  3Z-2T     2A spin
NHK:   3F       3A (fall)    spin 2A Stsq || 3A<+REP fall spin 3Z          3lo-1lo-3s Chsq 3z-3T     2A spin
GPF:   3A       3A<+REP fall spin 3F Stsq || 2A+3t        spin 3z+2t       Chsq       3Lo  3z-1lo-2s 2A spin

Or how about this?

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[td]Italy[/td]
[td]SC[/td]
[td]NHK[/td]
[td]GPF[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]3F[/td]
[td]4T< fall[/td]
[td]3F[/td]
[td]3A[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]3A[/td]
[td]3A<[/td]
[td]3A fall[/td]
[td]3A< + REP fall[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]spin[/td]
[td]spin[/td]
[td]spin[/td]
[td]spin[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]2A[/td]
[td]3F[/td]
[td]2A[/td]
[td]3F[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]Stsq[/td]
[td]Stsq[/td]
[td]Stsq[/td]
[td]Stsq[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]X[/td]
[td]X[/td]
[td]X[/td]
[td]X[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]3A+3T[/td]
[td]3A-3T[/td]
[td]3A< +REP fall[/td]
[td]2A+3T[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]spin[/td]
[td]spin[/td]
[td]spin[/td]
[td]spin[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]3z-1Lo-3S<[/td]
[td]3z-1Lo-3S[/td]
[td]3z[/td]
[td]3z+2T[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]Chsq[/td]
[td]Chsq[/td]
[td]3Lo-1Lo-3S[/td]
[td]Chsq[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]3Lo[/td]
[td]3Lo[/td]
[td]Chsq[/td]
[td]3Lo[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]3z-2T[/td]
[td]3z-2T[/td]
[td]3z-3T[/td]
[td]3z-1Lo-2S[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]2A[/td]
[td]2A[/td]
[td]2A[/td]
[td]2A[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]spin[/td]
[td]spin[/td]
[td]spin[/td]
[td]spin[/td]
[/tr]
[/table]

 

[Tavi...]

Does this work?

Italy: 3F.      3A           spin 2A Stsq || 3A+3T        spin 3z-1lo-3s<  Chsq       3Lo  3z-2t     2A spin
SC:    4T< fall 3A<          spin 3F Stsq || 3A-3T        spin 3z-1l-3s    Chsq       3Lo  3Z-2T     2A spin
NHK:   3F       3A (fall)    spin 2A Stsq || 3A<+REP fall spin 3Z          3lo-1lo-3s Chsq 3z-3T     2A spin
GPF:   3A       3A<+REP fall spin 3F Stsq || 2A+3t        spin 3z+2t       Chsq       3Lo  3z-1lo-2s 2A spin

Or how about this?

[table="width: 410, class: grid, align: left"]
[tr]
[td]Italy[/td]
[td]SC[/td]
[td]NHK[/td]
[td]GPF[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]3F[/td]
[td]4T< fall[/td]
[td]3F[/td]
[td]3A[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]3A[/td]
[td]3A<[/td]
[td]3A fall[/td]
[td]3A< + REP fall[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]spin[/td]
[td]spin[/td]
[td]spin[/td]
[td]spin[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]2A[/td]
[td]3F[/td]
[td]2A[/td]
[td]3F[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]Stsq[/td]
[td]Stsq[/td]
[td]Stsq[/td]
[td]Stsq[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]X[/td]
[td]X[/td]
[td]X[/td]
[td]X[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]3A+3T[/td]
[td]3A-3T[/td]
[td]3A< +REP fall[/td]
[td]2A+3T[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]spin[/td]
[td]spin[/td]
[td]spin[/td]
[td]spin[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]3z-1Lo-3S<[/td]
[td]3z-1Lo-3S[/td]
[td]3z[/td]
[td]3z+2T[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]Chsq[/td]
[td]Chsq[/td]
[td]Chsq[/td]
[td]Chsq[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]3Lo[/td]
[td]3Lo[/td]
[td]3Lo-1Lo-3S[/td]
[td]3Lo[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]3z-2T[/td]
[td]3z-2T[/td]
[td]3z-3T[/td]
[td]3z-1Lo-2S[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]2A[/td]
[td]2A[/td]
[td]2A[/td]
[td]2A[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]spin[/td]
[td]spin[/td]
[td]spin[/td]
[td]spin[/td]
[/tr]
[/table]

Thank you!

I need to learn how to tackle these tables - I’ve been remiss in my thread updating duties mostly because I haven’t taken the time to figure out how to do this! I noticed I had two elements out of order for NHK, so I corrected it in this post. Thanks again!

ETA Doris: I remembered that StitchMonkey had posted that clip during SC, so thanks is really due to her. It’s the closest thing we have to a clean version of the program, and I think even though it’s early in the season, really shows its potential.

Looking at the different layouts/errors, I really hope they go back to the SC (if he’s attempting a quad) or Lombardia layouts, as they seem to fit best with the music. At NHK I think they moved the 3Z sequence deliberately, and I really didn’t like the change. With GPF, I am guessing they moved the 3As up either because he was breaking in the boots or due to nerves (or minor injury?) but the second half changes mostly seemed improvised due to earlier errors. I keep trying to find a pattern in his mistakes, but other than frequent trouble with the 3A and 3Lo, it’s hard to see one.